Posted on 03/03/2024 5:28:27 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
Western imperialism comes out of the closet
https://gregreese.substack.com/
Putin has made it clear in several interviews that he is well aware of how US Presidents come and go, and US policy never changes.
Vladimir Putin: "I have already spoken to three US Presidents. They come and go, but the politics stay the same at all times. Do you know why? Because of the powerful bureaucracy. When a person is elected, they may have some ideas. Then people with briefcases arrive, well dressed, wearing dark suits, just like mine, except for the red tie, since they wear black or dark blue ones. These people start explaining how things are done. And instantly, everything changes. This is what happens with every administration."
Putin is well aware that it is the CIA who directs US policy. And it is the intelligence agencies of NATO countries who have been covertly instigating war with Russia for decades.
In the Tucker Carlson Interview at the Kremlin, President Putin seemed to be speaking directly to the CIA. Twice, playfully hinting that Tucker is a representative of the Intelligence organization.
Tucker Carlson: "With the backing of whom?"
Vladimir Putin: "With the backing of CIA of course. The organization you wanted to join back in the day as I understand it. We should thank God they didn't let you in. Although it is a serious organization, I understand."
Tucker Carlson: "Who blew up Nord Stream?"
Vladimir Putin: "You for sure."
Tucker Carlson: "I was busy that day. Do.. do you have... I did not blow up Nord Stream, thank you though."
Vladimir Putin: "You personally may have an alibi, but the CIA has no such alibi."
And the CIA responded to Putin via their New York Times media outlet in the recent article, The Spy War: How the C.I.A. Secretly Helps Ukraine Fight Putin.
The article admits that the CIA, operating through three different presidential administrations, has transformed the Ukraine into "Washington’s most important intelligence partners against the Kremlin." They have secretly trained and equipped Ukrainian intelligence officers over the past decade. And constructed a network of 12 secret bases along the Russian border used to launch cross-border attacks on Russian territory.
This means the CIA is responsible for the attacks on oil refineries and energy infrastructure.
The article describes secret underground command centers established near the Russian border. Financed and equipped by the CIA.
A CIA program called 'Operation Goldfish' enabled Ukrainians to hack into Russian military networks, break into satellites and decode secret conversations.
Two years after the 2014 Western backed coup in Ukraine, the CIA set up training programs for an elite Ukrainian commando force known as Unit 2245
The CIA trained Ukrainian spies who operate inside of Russia, across Europe, and in other places where Russia operates
The article points out that this operation may have even been hidden from Trump. While Trump’s rhetoric was friendly to Russia, his administration of anti-Russia war hawks, such as Mike Pompeo and John Bolton, kept Western aggression moving forward. Which is what Putin has been pointing out for years. Presidents come and go, and the policy never changes.
The article says nothing about the several bio-weapons labs that the US admitted to having along Russia’s border. Some of these labs were seized by the Russian federation, who say they are preparing to release a report on them, but have so far remained silent.
Putin has made it clear that Russia’s actions in Ukraine was in response to decades of hostile US-NATO military expansion on Russian borders. And the CIA is now admitting this to be true.
How is his admission propaganda?
Isolationist drivel
Did this CIA nonsense happen under Trump?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/13/ukrainian-shell-russian-border-town-donetsk?CMP=twt_gu
https://online.wsj.com/articles/ukrainian-government-troops-target-further-gains-in-east-1404644564
And it wasn’t the only time Donetsk was shelled.
That’s pretty deliberate.
There was shelling on both sides. There were civilian casualties on both sides. And no, these were not deliberate.
Now do you want to talk about the Russian shelling of Ukrainian cities that has been going on for two years?
Ukraine had been shelling Donetsk for weeks.
And we shouldn’t be involved, at all.
A war has been going on for ten years. Military objects in Donetsk are legitimate targets. Don't try to make me belief that the Ukrainians, fighting for their lives and short on ammunition, are wasting it on civilian targets. Now what about the Russian shelling of Ukrainian cities that has been going on for two years?
And we have no business being involved.
Stopping Russian aggression is in our long term interest, just as it was to stop the Soviet Union.
Funny, the “russian aggression” wouldn’t exist if the Maidan coup didn’t happen.
Russian aggression was going on even before the fall of Yanukovych, although it was political, not military. The Maidan rebellion was response to that aggression. Whatever its causes, however, this does not justify Russia's invasion in 2014. The internal politics of Ukraine were the Ukrainian's to settle, not Russia. In any case, the events of 2014 cannot be used to justify Russia's second invasion in 2022. There were two national elections since then. The conflicts that arose in 2014 could have been resolved peacefully by the Ukrainians if the Russians had not intervened.
Actually, no.
The government we toppled was on good terms with Russia and by Hillary THAT COULD NOT STAND, so oops, Maidan Coup.
And where did that get us?
Untold thousands dead, Zelensky tweaking on TV, and people online drumming for another pointless war we have no business being involved in.
Yanukovych was on too good of terms with Russia. He betrayed Ukraine by selling out to the Russians and reneging on the Ukraine-EU agreement that he had earlier supported and which had been approved by the parliament. The Ukrainian people, not the CIA, removed him. In any case, there were two elections afterwards in which the Ukrainian people, not the CIA, chose the president. Any CIA involvement was incidental. Maidan would have happened without it. The CIA is not the all-powerful boogeyman that some believe. Regardless of what had happened in 2014, it does not justify Russia’s invasion.
Putin poison a president of Ukraine a decade before 2014. But the nutbags are not interested in the historical facts at hand here. There’s no armchair fun in that, apparently.
Add forced military service, kidnapping men to fight.
Yup.
And there’s posters here that think all of this is okay and hand wave away everything.
Now there’s a convoluted way to say “We meddled where we should not have.”
Yeah, and?
How is that our problem?
Why do we need to interfere?
Of course we meddled, just like the Russians meddled. Both of us have meddled all over the world. But the CIA did not cause Maidan, the Ukrainian people did in response to Russian meddling. Or were the Ukrainian people just suppose to accept Yanukovych’s surrender of Ukraine to Russian control?
there are a whole bunch of Federal Agencies inflicting their idiocy on America at this point
Nothing could hold back the USA if Fed.gov was downsized 60-75%
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