CIA Admits To Instigating War With Russia

Banned.Video ^ | Mar 1, 2024 | Greg Reese

[Darksheare]

“Of course we meddled,”
You are the first ukraine supporter to admit that, props to you.

It wasn’t our place to meddle to begin with.

[mo]

Decades of Corruption right here at home....

[Petrosius]

Our meddling was to counter Russia’s meddling and to help the Ukrainians secure their freedom. The pro-Russian side acts as if Russia were an innocent bystander until the nefarious CIA pulled some magic strings and caused the peace-loving and pro-Russian Ukrainians to the new Nazis. Nice myth but not reality. It was, and is, in our interest to help the Ukrainian people maintain their independence from an aggressive and expansionist Russia. None of this would have happened if the Russians would have just accepted that Ukraine is an independent country and no longer part of Russia. Would you just let Russia gobble up its smaller neighbors one by one?

[Darksheare]

Our meddling was unnecessary and a part of further meddling elsewhere under Obama.
The “Arab spring” BS was in the middle of a policy of toppling governments around the world.
Many of which should never have happened.

[rottweiller_inc]

So Ukraine can kill civilians in Donbas then turn around and scream bloody murder when their people are hit?

[Petrosius]

So Ukraine can kill civilians in Donbas then turn around and scream bloody murder when their people are hit?

For the 100th time, Ukraine did not target civilians in Donbas. Stop believing in such ridiculous Russian propaganda.

[House Atreides]

So Ukraine can kill civilians in Donbas then turn around and scream bloody murder when their people are hit?
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For the 100th time, Ukraine did not target civilians in Donbas. Stop believing in such ridiculous Russian propaganda.
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That’s right, Petrosius, if the Mainstream Media, will not show something it doesn’t exist. Yes, we all believe you.

[rottweiller_inc]

tell you what: do a google search that includes “2014” “news’ “Ukraine”, and read what they said then. To me you are just spreading propaganda.

[Petrosius]

I am not disputing that there were civilian casualties. There were, on both sides. But on neither side were they the result of deliberate targeting of civilians. Rather, they were mostly the result of the heavy use, on both sides, of unguided Grad missiles in the first two years of the war in 2014 and 2015. Civilian casualties dropped off drastically in latter years. In the years immediately prior to Russia's 2022 invasion they were few in numbers and mostly the result of abandoned mines and unexploded artillery rounds. This is according to the reports that the pro-Russian Donbas regimes themselves gave to the UN. Go read the reports. This repeated charge that the Ukrainians were deliberately and constantly shelling the ethnic Russian population in Donbas is rubbish, ugly Russian propaganda. This has been pointed out so many times that it is hard to accept that anyone is now making this charge in good faith.

[rottweiller_inc]

“This is an open war of Russia against Ukraine,” said a soldier from Dnipro 1 volunteer battalion. “Ask our generals why we still have neither artillery nor aviation support.”
from 2014 same complaint as today
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/28/ukraine-russian-fighting-second-front-mariupol