[House Atreides]

So Ukraine can kill civilians in Donbas then turn around and scream bloody murder when their people are hit?
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For the 100th time, Ukraine did not target civilians in Donbas. Stop believing in such ridiculous Russian propaganda.
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That’s right, Petrosius, if the Mainstream Media, will not show something it doesn’t exist. Yes, we all believe you.

[Petrosius]

I am not disputing that there were civilian casualties. There were, on both sides. But on neither side were they the result of deliberate targeting of civilians. Rather, they were mostly the result of the heavy use, on both sides, of unguided Grad missiles in the first two years of the war in 2014 and 2015. Civilian casualties dropped off drastically in latter years. In the years immediately prior to Russia's 2022 invasion they were few in numbers and mostly the result of abandoned mines and unexploded artillery rounds. This is according to the reports that the pro-Russian Donbas regimes themselves gave to the UN. Go read the reports. This repeated charge that the Ukrainians were deliberately and constantly shelling the ethnic Russian population in Donbas is rubbish, ugly Russian propaganda. This has been pointed out so many times that it is hard to accept that anyone is now making this charge in good faith.