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Joe Biden Gives an Ultimatum to Greg Abbott, 'Pound Sand' Is the Proper Answer
Red State ^ | Jan, 25,2024 | Bronchie

Posted on 01/25/2024 6:35:44 PM PST by Fai Mao

Joe Biden, or more likely his handlers, levied an ultimatum on Thursday, demanding that Gov. Greg Abbott relinquish control of the "disputed" border areas Texas has been securing. That came after 25 states joined together to pledge their support to Abbott as he battles the federal government and its refusal to enforce immigration laws.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: biden; bidenbordercrisis; border; brinkmanship; civilwar; constitutionalcrisis; eaglepass; fjb; fortsumpter; gregabbott; immigration; invasion; joebiden; rescuemission; shelbypark; texas
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To: Fai Mao

“ The federal attorney being quoted is reading more into the Supreme Court’s ruling than exists. The ruling simply lifted an injunction that stopped the federal officials from cutting the razor wire. The ruling did not say that Texas must allow federal officials access to the areas where the razor wire is. That is now going to be the point of this conflict going forward, and it will likely take another court ruling to settle the matter. “


141 posted on 01/25/2024 10:49:08 PM PST by HollyB
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To: your other brother
Biden’s next move would be to federalize the national guard which he can do and/or send the FBI to arrest the governor and charge him with insurrection.

That will fail.

Twenty-five states support Gov. Abbott and Texas. Biden cannot arrest them all.

If we take James Madison's word in his Federalist essays, it's the federal government that's gone insurrectionist, not the states. It's the states that must band together to stop Biden's rogue administration.

James Madison, Federalist #46:

Were it admitted, however, that the Federal government may feel an equal disposition with the State governments to extend its power beyond the due limits, the latter would still have the advantage in the means of defeating such encroachments. If an act of a particular State, though unfriendly to the national government, be generally popular in that State and should not too grossly violate the oaths of the State officers, it is executed immediately and, of course, by means on the spot and depending on the State alone. The opposition of the federal government, or the interposition of federal officers, would but inflame the zeal of all parties on the side of the State, and the evil could not be prevented or repaired, if at all, without the employment of means which must always be resorted to with reluctance and difficulty.

On the other hand, should an unwarrantable measure of the federal government be unpopular in particular States, which would seldom fail to be the case, or even a warrantable measure be so, which may sometimes be the case, the means of opposition to it are powerful and at hand. The disquietude of the people; their repugnance and, perhaps, refusal to co-operate with the officers of the Union; the frowns of the executive magistracy of the State; the embarrassments created by legislative devices, which would often be added on such occasions, would oppose, in any State, difficulties not to be despised; would form, in a large State, very serious impediments; and where the sentiments of several adjoining States happened to be in unison, would present obstructions which the federal government would hardly be willing to encounter.

This next part is the reason why the Framers made the Senate appointed by the state legislatures and not by popular vote.

...the prepossessions of the people, on whom both will depend, will be more on the side of the State governments, than of the federal government. So far as the disposition of each towards the other may be influenced by these causes, the State governments must clearly have the advantage. But in a distinct and very important point of view, the advantage will lie on the same side. The prepossessions, which the members themselves will carry into the federal government, will generally be favorable to the States; whilst it will rarely happen, that the members of the State governments will carry into the public councils a bias in favor of the general government. A local spirit will infallibly prevail much more in the members of Congress, than a national spirit will prevail in the legislatures of the particular States...

But ambitious encroachments of the federal government, on the authority of the State governments, would not excite the opposition of a single State, or of a few States only. They would be signals of general alarm. Every government would espouse the common cause. A correspondence would be opened. Plans of resistance would be concerted. One spirit would animate and conduct the whole...

The Senate made up of ambassadors of the states would have been instructed by their respective legislatures to resist a despotic President and work with their allied states to stop him.

A post-17th Amendment Senate would be useless today. In Madison's words, a post-17th Amendment Senate is the realization of Madison's rejection that "it will rarely happen, that the members of the State governments will carry into the public councils a bias in favor of the general government." That is exactly what happened after the 17th amendment was ratified.

This means that the Congress, the Judiciary, and the Executive have turned against the sovereignty of the states, making the federal government the insurrectionists. It is up to a coordinated resistance by the states to put the federal government back into its box, as Madison laid out in Federalist #46.

-PJ

142 posted on 01/25/2024 11:28:24 PM PST by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Secret Agent Man

Actuator is illegal to use non guard troops. So let’s see then break the law to enforce their ruling.


143 posted on 01/26/2024 1:29:58 AM PST by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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To: Fai Mao

David and Goliath...

and we know how that ended...


144 posted on 01/26/2024 2:11:17 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: greenishness

You don’t wanna know how “Historians” would write this up; they’re not your grandfather’s kind of historians.


145 posted on 01/26/2024 2:54:16 AM PST by HKMk23 (https://youtu.be/LTseTg48568)
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To: Iron Munro; thinden; bitt

Young Isabel has been violently raped and impregnated by an asylum seeker here in the US.
Before the authorities catch him, he slips back across the Southern border but he’ll be back.
Isabel is unconcerned because the Democrats made it OK to have an abortion.

What a relief!
Now the asylum seeker can rape and impregnate as many young women he wants because they can get an abortion.


146 posted on 01/26/2024 3:54:10 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (When I say "We" I speak of, -not for-, "We the People")
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To: Jolla

The trucker caravan supposed to show up pretty soon, double the “get interesting” when that happens.


147 posted on 01/26/2024 3:59:05 AM PST by lilypad
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To: Fai Mao
Is anyone (media, Congress...) asking why the Biden administration want the razor wire removed?

And, for the record, "It's for the safety of refugees trying to reach America" doesn't work for me...

148 posted on 01/26/2024 4:01:08 AM PST by jeffc (Resident of the free State of Florida)
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To: grumpygresh
Could Biden effectively federalize the Texas Guard?>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Gubernatorial assent is required.

Secondly, in the case of Texas, it does not have a “national guard.” It has something called the Texas Militia.It is a sovereign force,not automatically at the service of the federal government.

See here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Militia

149 posted on 01/26/2024 4:12:19 AM PST by Candor7 (Ask not for whom Trum p Trolls,He trolls for thee!),<img src="" width=500</img><a href="">tag</a>)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Not Biden, it was Obunghole.


150 posted on 01/26/2024 4:41:10 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Sequoyah101

Re “ If the USSC had any balls”:

Well… three of them have vaginas, so there’s the problem right there…


151 posted on 01/26/2024 4:43:25 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Persevero

“Nuts”…

From a different, better time… Brigadier MacAuliffe at Bastogne.


152 posted on 01/26/2024 4:45:52 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: God luvs America
this is how CWII starts

Way past time. People are sick of this shit.

153 posted on 01/26/2024 5:13:54 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: Fai Mao
Sure would be a shame the lights in LA went out.

Sure would be a shame if all of our oil just suddenly stopped flowing.

Let them freeze in the dark.

154 posted on 01/26/2024 5:16:33 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I will argue the troops are already there at the massive Fort Bliss. The question then boils down to what will the troops at Fort Bliss do when ordered to deploy along the border against the Texas forces


155 posted on 01/26/2024 5:17:57 AM PST by bert ( (KE. NP. +12) Hamascide is required in totality)
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To: Brian Griffin

Presently with the 60 vote Senate rule there is no congress


156 posted on 01/26/2024 5:20:29 AM PST by bert ( (KE. NP. +12) Hamascide is required in totality)
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To: unixfox
Sure would be a shame if all of our oil just suddenly stopped flowing.

Let them freeze in the dark.

So would the rest of us.

157 posted on 01/26/2024 5:20:59 AM PST by gitmo
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To: bert

Repeal the 17th.
Restore State’s rights.
The US Senate would not be as leftist as it is today.


158 posted on 01/26/2024 5:26:57 AM PST by SheepWhisperer (Get involved with, or start a home fellowship group. It will be the final church. ACTS 2:42-47)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

“And that is over 50%.”

A little visit to Google and some spreadsheet work shows that these 26 States generate 40% of the US GDP (as of 2022) and have 244 Electoral Votes.

Not to mention production of food, oil, coal, gas and other basics.


159 posted on 01/26/2024 5:36:57 AM PST by castlebrew (Gun Control means hitting where you're aiming!))
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To: Fai Mao

“I think Texas produces a lot of electricity to export. Sure would be a shame the lights in LA went out.

Texas is unique in that they have there own grid. The only State that does. I was reading that when they had that deep freeze two years ago that the entire grid almost went down because they aren’t interconnected to outside (other States) sources of electricity. If they can’t bring it in, I don’t know how they can send electricity out?


160 posted on 01/26/2024 5:43:30 AM PST by DAC21
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