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Supreme Court spares Obamacare from GOP challenge
NBC News ^ | June 17, 2021 | Pete Williams

Posted on 06/17/2021 7:24:23 AM PDT by rdl6989

The U.S. Supreme Court ruled 7-2 Thursday that the Affordable Care Act, better known as Obamacare, remains valid, rejecting a claim by a group of conservative states that a recent change to the law made it unconstitutional.

Republicans have long opposed the law, former President Barack Obama's signature legislation. But more than 20 million Americans now depend on it for their health insurance, and there is broad public support for its requirement that insurance companies must cover pre-existing health conditions.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: 7to2; aca; braking; healthcare; johnroberts; mediawingofthednc; nbc; neilgorsuch; obamacare; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills; petewilliams; samuelalito; scotus; supremecourt; supremefart; supremes; texas; thesupremefart
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To: rdl6989
Obamacare is not a health care policy. It is a warm-hearted gesture of goodwill toward the medically underserved. So if you oppose it, you hate poor people...or something.

I would not expect a GOP leadership like the one in place today to be able to address Obamacare’s dismal failures in the face of such media headwinds.

21 posted on 06/17/2021 7:44:44 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: rdl6989

Lol. Its here to stay no matter what the law says. The robed lawyers have spoken.


22 posted on 06/17/2021 7:49:11 AM PDT by Seruzawa (The political Left is the Garden of Eden of Incompetence - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: rdl6989

“Here’s the actual opinion”

Here’s a piece of it, abbreviated:

Plaintiffs do not have standing to challenge ... because they have not shown an ... injury traceable to defendants’ conduct enforcing the specific statutory provision.

Guess the court doesn’t rule directly on a constitutional issue, but rather they rule based on an injury or injustice resulting from the constitutional issue.


23 posted on 06/17/2021 7:50:04 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: joesbucks; All

If Thomas was in that block then we know it wasn’t ruling of constitutionality. He is as solid as they come. The other two are garbage. I think Trump should not provide a list next time around. He should go purely on gut and shouldn’t listen to anyone inside the beltway. Period.


24 posted on 06/17/2021 7:54:29 AM PDT by wiseprince (Me,)
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To: rdl6989
For these reasons, we conclude that the plaintiffs in this suit failed to show a concrete, particularized injury fairly traceable to the defendants’ conduct in enforcing the specific statutory provision they attack as unconstitutional. They have failed to show that they have standing to attack as unconstitutional the Act’s minimum essential coverage provision. Therefore, we reverse the Fifth Circuit’s judgment in respect to standing, vacate the judgment, and remand the case with instructions to dismiss. .

This just beggars belief, and is a dangerous course for the Court to take - that states don't have standing to enforce the enumerated powers clause of the Constitution, when it is their injury and their powers that are being encroached upon.

I get it about frat boy and ACB, but where is Thomas in all of this?

25 posted on 06/17/2021 7:55:12 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: All

The Supreme Court exists to enforce the will of the oligarchs against the will of the general population even in the face of all ration thought. For an obvious example I give you : legalizing faggot “marriage” .


26 posted on 06/17/2021 8:00:49 AM PDT by escapefromboston (Free Assange )
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To: AndyJackson

Thomas wrote a concurring opinion. I’m not a lawyer, so it’s hard for me to interpret exactly what he said, but it seems as though he agrees with Alito about 90% on the ACA yet on this question, he says that the plaintiffs did not prove harm, as needed to overturn the prior decision.


27 posted on 06/17/2021 8:01:30 AM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment
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To: USCG SimTech

Then why can’t it be dismantled if it has no teeth? Obama and ilk created it, and the courts ruled it was ,egal, so why can’t the courts now rule that it has no power now and should be dismantled? Can it never be undone because it was a ,iberal ‘law’ for zwhile?


28 posted on 06/17/2021 8:02:38 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: USCG SimTech
They [Supreme Court] manufacture the reason[s] from ruling the way the Powers That Be want them to rule.

In 2020 the United States lost its "We are A Nation of Laws" tradition, if you will. In 2020 The Republican Party collaborated with the Democrat Party to steal the Presidential Election from Donald J. Trump. The Supreme Court of the United States abdicated its responsibility using the pretext of "No standing" . The Lower Courts simply refused to do their duty. Thus the election was stolen. Resulting in the replacing of an honest and honorable man with a known liar and thief. Numerous laws previously agreed to by both Parties and written were violated and broken. The Constitution was shattered. Not to be outdone, the Republicans and Conservatives promptly stuck their heads in the sand and continued as if nothing out of the ordinary happened. And they continue acting as if nothing out of the ordinary happened until this day. Those in Control know what is happening though. Believe it or not. We aer a Nation that only the laws of the Powerful matter.

29 posted on 06/17/2021 8:05:10 AM PDT by sport
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To: the OlLine Rebel

She and kav have failed on some pretty key issues. When is it time to co cider that perhaps mistakes were made in getting them elected to sc ?


30 posted on 06/17/2021 8:05:19 AM PDT by Bob434
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When a case is tossed for lack of standing, the fault is not the court. It is poor legal thinking by the lawyers who brought it to court. It’s not difficult to find plaintiffs who have standing so that matters can be decided on merit, but somehow lawyers on this case managed not to do that.


31 posted on 06/17/2021 8:05:39 AM PDT by Owen
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To: wiseprince

To a degree it was a constitutional issue. Standing would fall under that.


32 posted on 06/17/2021 8:07:58 AM PDT by joesbucks
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To: qaz123
How so?

Because they don't have to worry about replacing it.

33 posted on 06/17/2021 8:08:06 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: rdl6989

Hey great. Put all 9 of them on it!


34 posted on 06/17/2021 8:09:21 AM PDT by The MAGA-Deplorian (Democrats are lawless because Republicans are ball-less)
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To: wiseprince

“I think Trump should not provide a list next time around.”

I disagree. A list of judicial candidates prevents people like David Souter from being nominated. The Federalist Society wasn’t a good resource for picking judges.


35 posted on 06/17/2021 8:10:21 AM PDT by Mr. N. Wolfe
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To: Owen

It’s amazing though how many lawyers there are who bring cases with no standing because cases ,eep getting thrown out for lack of standing. Can’t they forsee that their case doesn’t have standing?


36 posted on 06/17/2021 8:11:34 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: escapefromboston

SCOTUS to conservatives: “You have no standing, so get out of here!”

SCOTUS to leftists: “Come forward and let us know what you want. We’ll invent some legal fictions and use convoluted reasoning to make it happen.”


37 posted on 06/17/2021 8:11:39 AM PDT by Deo volente ("When we see the image of a baby in the womb, we glimpse the majesty of God's creation." Pres. Trump)
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To: cymbeline

If the defendants don’t have standing, then what surprises me is not the verdict, but that they decided to hear the case in the first place


38 posted on 06/17/2021 8:13:09 AM PDT by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: rdl6989

The basics of the opinion is that since the individual mandate payments were removed the individuals suing can show no harm from Obamacare and thus have no standing.


39 posted on 06/17/2021 8:13:10 AM PDT by Renfrew
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To: The MAGA-Deplorian


That’s the right take.

The Elites always take care of the Elites first.

Kavanaugh will be dependable Dem Vote shortly.


40 posted on 06/17/2021 8:13:36 AM PDT by AnthonySoprano (‘’’)
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