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What a Second American Civil War Could Look Like
Townhall.com ^ | July 21, 2020 | Mark Nuckols

Posted on 07/21/2020 6:19:22 AM PDT by Kaslin

I fear that there is a looming civil war on the horizon. It is not yet inevitable, but all true American patriots must be prepared for the coming battle. And the costs in blood will be heavy. This war will not be fought like the American Revolution or the Civil War of 1861-65, where disciplined armies observed the laws of war and respected civilian lives.

This war will be waged by far-left radicals and their deep-state puppet masters. For them, civilian casualties and massacres will not be moral evils, but merely part and parcel of their larger plan to “reconstruct” America. Their objective is simple: overthrow our constitutional order, destroy our way of life, and deprive us of our freedom, our liberties, our property, and our honor.

I have spent many years in countries that have suffered civil war and its horrors, such as Russia (including Chechnya), Syria, Lebanon, Croatia, Bosnia, and Kosovo. I have also carefully studied the history of revolutions and civil conflict. And until recently I would never have believed a second civil war in America to be possible. But the warning signs are all there, and they began appearing most visibly when Donald Trump became the Republican nominee for president. He is the first American politician that strikes fear into the hearts of both the deep state and the radical left. And that fear makes them extremely dangerous.

The Bolshevik October Revolution of 1917 was carried out by a mere few thousand party members in St. Petersburg. And it was sudden and unexpected, the Bolshevik Central Committee made the decision to launch a coup d’etat only hours before its execution. In fact, as late as July 1917 Lenin himself did not expect a communist revolution in his lifetime. The Russian Civil War that followed is a horrifying story of savage carnage and obscene violence.

In similar fashion, I believe one likely spark for the Second American Civil War will be the result of a coup d’etat carried out by anti-America extremists. It will catch most Americans by surprise. The coup plotters will act quickly to seize the critical levers of power, before any opposition has a chance to react. And they will be aided and abetted by the kinds of people Lenin referred to, contemptuously, as useful idiots.

The shock troops will come from the ranks of Antifa and radical anti-white elements of the Black Lives Matter movement. These fascist stormtroopers will be augmented by the even larger numbers of veterans of Occupy and other far-left movements. And jihadists from across the globe will flock to support this coup. But the real power will be behind the scenes, in the hands of the bureaucrats of the American deep state, who will see such a far-left coup as their best chance to preserve and expand their far-reaching powers, but which President Trump threatens.

Much of the mainstream media will initially be warmly supportive. A few so-called conservatives at The New York Times may meekly protest that while the ends of the revolution are laudable, perhaps the means are a bit too messy. But most of the liberal media will fall into lockstep, in the belief that as long as they are supportive, the coup leaders will allow them to stay in business. Many Americans will believe their pro-coup propaganda and quietly submit, or at least refrain from overt resistance.

The faculties at Harvard, Yale, and Princeton will pass resolutions of fervent support, and their brainwashed students will rush to enlist in the revolution before all the excitement passes. Likewise, left-leaning foundations and oligarchs will promise financial support. And the Federal Reserve will flood the economy with debased currency.

Not all Democrat politicians will turn traitor, but there will be some prominent establishment “statesmen” who will betray our country. They will naively believe that they will be able to control the revolution and turn it to their own purposes. When their fig leaf of respectability is no longer required, they will get the fate they deserve. But their role will be critical, to give coup leaders the guise of “continuity of government” while they seize the critical levers of power.

America’s external enemies will not sit by idly. The new revolutionary government will offer generous terms in return for “foreign assistance” (meaning secret police), and troops if necessary. Expect a Treaty of San Antonio whereby Mexico “recovers her historic territories” of Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and southern California. Russia will expect a return of Alaska (and its oil) to the Motherland. China and the European Union will demand we surrender our economic sovereignty and become vassals of Beijing and Brussels. And, of course, the United Nations will offer to send in the “blue helmets” to “restore civil order.” North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, and Iran will all also want in on the spoils in return for “technical support.”

And what will be the agenda of this regime? The first priority is obvious: the confiscation of all privately owned guns. An armed citizenry ready and prepared to defend its rights would be an intolerable threat to the regime. The next logical step would be identifying any and all possible sources of opposition and interning them and their families in “re-education” camps. The third priority will be a radical redistribution of property. It would destroy the American free-enterprise economy, but short-term it would guarantee the loyal support of all those hoping for a share of the spoils.

I do not wish to be alarmist. But what I describe here is a plausible scenario. And have no doubt, our nation’s enemies are resolute and determined. The continued existence of our great country, the United States of America, will depend on the bravery, strength, resourcefulness, and patriotism of her most loyal citizens. We must stand prepared for all possible threats.

May God bless and protect America.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: america; antifa; banglist; blm; civilwar; communism; cwii; cwiiping; deepstate; marxism; preppers; shtf
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To: nonliberal
This is a people who masks themselves and hides in their homes from a virus with a 99.9% survival rate. Do you honestly think that these cowards will fight for anything?

These same people earning 50,000 per year for not working and complaining for more, nope

21 posted on 07/21/2020 6:33:14 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (#openupstateny)
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To: z3n

There are about 100 people nationawide who are driving us towards war.

If they were eliminated it would go away.


22 posted on 07/21/2020 6:33:49 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: DCBryan1

OH SHT! Did you just mention settling with the HOA’s? :-O


23 posted on 07/21/2020 6:33:54 AM PDT by Ikeon (Sht happens, its in the Bible. read Job...)
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To: Kaslin

Well, I’m wondering whether to learn Russian. Or Arabic.


24 posted on 07/21/2020 6:34:43 AM PDT by combat_boots (God bless Israel and all who protect and defend her. Merry Christmas! In God We Trust!)
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To: Kaslin

The upcoming US civil war will probably be a mixture of the Greek Civil War, bloody Kansas, the Irish Republican actions and Al-Quada tactics.

Hopefully a civil war can be avoided by placing revenue and spending caps in our federal constitution.


25 posted on 07/21/2020 6:36:48 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Red Badger

No civil war has lasted centuries that I know of.

“The Karen Conflict is the longest civil war in the world, having had started in 1949 and is still ongoing. The Karen Conflict involves the Karen people, one of the largest ethnic groups in Southeast Asia, who have been fighting since ages long past for a separate Karen nation of their own in Myanmar (Burma).”


26 posted on 07/21/2020 6:37:38 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Da Coyote
Because we don't start civil wars, we only finish them.
27 posted on 07/21/2020 6:37:57 AM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: Kaslin
What I fear is a larger scale version of Colombia's infamous La Violencia, where armed citizens are pitted against each other (think "Bleeding Kansas" but on a MUCH larger scale). Millions of Americans will end up dying from what amounts to large-scale tribal warfare.
28 posted on 07/21/2020 6:38:20 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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To: Da Coyote

“Only the good die young”.


29 posted on 07/21/2020 6:38:28 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: SmokingJoe

I cannot imagine a nation full of ‘Karens’.........................


30 posted on 07/21/2020 6:40:08 AM PDT by Red Badger (To a liberal, 9-11 was 'illegal fireworks activity'..........................)
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To: DCBryan1
their HOA/POA

In the suburbs maybe. Here in rural VA the HOA would be united and the sheriff would visit us and give us subtle advice on S3.

31 posted on 07/21/2020 6:41:47 AM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: Kaslin
Short of door-to-door firearm confiscation, or the stoppage of entitlement payments will bring about a hot civil war... nothing.

The left will continue to pick here and there, but nothing will cause your average true-blooded American to rise up- nothing.
32 posted on 07/21/2020 6:42:36 AM PDT by TexasGunLover
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To: Eaker; Jack Black; archy; DuncanWaring; Travis McGee; Absolutely Nobama; afnamvet; AK2KX; ...

About the CWII Ping List

The CWII Ping List is short for Civil War II. It is NOT a list of people advocating another Civil War in America. It is a list of people who are interested in the parallels between the Civil War (or War Between the States, if you prefer) and our current situation, or more generally are noting the references to a 'coming Civil War' that are made in the press.

Of course sometimes this is merely a figure of speech, such as "The Tea Parties are fighting a civil war for the heart of the GOP". This would not merit a CWII ping.

On the other hand someone saying something like "The events in California are reminiscent of what happened in Yugoslavia in the period proceeding the Civil War" would merit a ping.

FR rules do not permit advocating for the overthrow of the Republic, and I am not aware of anyone doing so on the list. Still many do see that as the political climate worsens we may be heading in a direction that makes such a conflict all but inevitable, particularly if other avenues for resolving our differences are taken away. Such as widespread vote fraud by leftists making elections meaningless, or a small cadre of judges over-ruling all attempts to end destructive policies over the clear will of the people.

The correct keyword tag for the Civil War II ping list is "CWII". Please Freep Mail me to get on the list

33 posted on 07/21/2020 6:43:09 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: combat_boots

Chinese?


34 posted on 07/21/2020 6:43:16 AM PDT by goodnesswins (The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution." -- Saul Alinksy)
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To: Da Coyote

I have been hoping that all this discussion of the possibility of “Civil War II” would remain rhetorical and theoretical. It seems less and less so with each passing day, with one political party enlisting some pretty heavy hitters, malefactors of great wealth, that seem determined to force change upon what has been a highly satisfactory system, for no conceivable reason other than a sort of social experiment on a massive scale.

Sometimes these “new ways” turn out to be a reversion to some earlier failed attempt to exercise a “more efficient” command-and-control regime upon humanity, with somehow the “right” balance to make it work THIS time.

What is the definition of insanity, again? Doing the same thing over and over, hoping for a different outcome?


35 posted on 07/21/2020 6:43:30 AM PDT by alloysteel (Freedom is not a matter of life and death. It is much more serious than that..)
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To: SmokingJoe
The Karen Conflict is the longest civil war in the world, having had started in 1949 and is still ongoing. The Karen Conflict involves the Karen people, one of the largest ethnic groups in Southeast Asia, who have been fighting since ages long past for a separate Karen nation of their own in Myanmar (Burma).”

There's those Karens again.
36 posted on 07/21/2020 6:43:57 AM PDT by Old Yeller (Systemic liberalism is the problem.)
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To: 1Old Pro
It’s worth noting that gun control has disappeared as a matter of political discussion in the last 3-4 months.

Even that nitwit David Hogg is probably armed to the teeth right now.

37 posted on 07/21/2020 6:44:03 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("We're human beings ... we're not f#%&ing animals." -- Dennis Rodman, 6/1/2020)
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To: Pollster1
. It could start as early as the window between Election Day and Inauguration Day.

Yup.
One way or another, there is going to be a lot of violence between the elections and inauguration day and even beyond. So far, it's the Antifa/BLM doing all the shooting. It will not stay that way come November.

38 posted on 07/21/2020 6:44:19 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Da Coyote

Satan is protecting him.


39 posted on 07/21/2020 6:44:24 AM PDT by antidemoncrat (uff)
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To: Alberta's Child
Even that nitwit David Hogg is probably armed to the teeth right now.

He must have bought up all the 00 buckshot, can't find it anywhere :)

40 posted on 07/21/2020 6:45:39 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (#openupstateny)
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