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Found: 14,400-Year-Old Flatbread Remains That Predate Agriculture
Atlas Obscura ^ | 16JUL18 | PAULA MEJIA

Posted on 07/23/2018 11:30:19 PM PDT by vannrox

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That’s no longer the case. Today, a team of researchers from the University of Copenhagen, the University College London, and the University of Cambridge released a paper in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences detailing their discovery of 14,400-year-old crumbs from a flatbread. The archaeological site, known as Shubayqa 1, is located in the Black Desert of northeastern Jordan and was home to Natufian hunter-gatherers. The flatbread remains are not only the oldest instance of bread found to date, but also preeminent examples of how bread-making existed even before agriculture developed some 4,000 years later.

“Nobody had found any direct evidence for production of bread, so the fact that bread predates agriculture is kind of stunning,” says Tobias Richter, a University of Copenhagen archaeologist who co-authored the paper. “Because making bread is quite labor-intensive, and you don’t necessarily get a huge return for it. So it doesn’t seem like an economical thing to do.” That’s because breadmaking doesn’t just involve baking: Back then, it would have also involved kneading, grinding cereals into fine grains, and dehusking plants.

Before the find at Shubayqa 1, the closest evidence of bread-like cereal meals had been identified at the Neolithic site Çatalhöyük, in Turkey. “We really didn’t think up until now that in the Natufian [period], people were making bread,” he adds. “We’ve just pushed that 5,000 years earlier.”

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KEYWORDS: agriculture; animalhusbandry; blackdesert; bread; dietandcuisine; discovery; food; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; huntergatherers; jordan; natufians; neolithic; old; shubayqa1; tobiasrichter
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To: COBOL2Java

Ya Ba Dabba ... Dough!

(audible groan)


41 posted on 07/24/2018 7:56:37 AM PDT by Coffee... Black... No Sugar (No tagline provided...)
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To: IrishBrigade

There is abundant evidence within the geological column and elsewhere that challenges evolution. The Cambrian explosion with so many different phyla appearing suddenly without trace of ancestors; no transition forms from invertebrates to vertebrates; no evolutionary ancestor for dinosaurs,bats and a whole host of other creatures.

Then there is evidence that birds existed already when archaeopteryx was around, and scientists still have no plausible step by step explanation for how a lung with a diaphragm can change into an avian type lung or how a scale changes into a feather. Also, crawling creatures already existed when fishapods were supposedly evolving into land mammals. There are also significant problems with the alleged mammal to whale evolution with scientists unable to agree on which type of land mammal changed into a whale in the first place, taking liberties in drawing flippers and a tail fluke onto one of the “transitional” forms when the bone structure did not support evidence for either. This is modern day dogma, built on the bias of a pre-committment to naturalism at all costs.


42 posted on 07/24/2018 12:28:16 PM PDT by winslow
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To: vannrox

Found in Helen Thomas kitchen?


43 posted on 07/24/2018 12:31:29 PM PDT by Rebelbase ( Tagline disabled.)
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To: vannrox

a good find (when difficulty of such thing surviving makes them far more rare than bones)

but its thought that grains were gathered (made into ‘bread’) LONG before and them falling on the ground, sprouting and that fact being known/understood was what likely gave the idea for agriculture.

once you leraned how to plant it yourself, NEXT came improving the plants so that fewer grains fell to the ground while being harvested


44 posted on 07/24/2018 1:19:18 PM PDT by elbook
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To: vannrox

I think they served that to me at The Chancery last year!


45 posted on 07/24/2018 1:25:27 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Clean_Sweep; winslow
More proof that academia is clueless. No one would start planting grains unless they knew what to make with it before hand

Exactly. Not possible that bread would not predate farming.

I once read a study that demonstrated that domesticating grain would take only 200 years (essentially selecting and separating husks that retained seeds longer).
46 posted on 07/24/2018 2:21:51 PM PDT by nicollo (I said no!)
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To: vannrox
“Because making bread is quite labor-intensive, and you don’t necessarily get a huge return for it.

He probably does not understand why we cook food either.

Raw grains are hard to eat, boiled grains (which have to be husked and cracked) do not last very long and are hard to carry. Husked and ground grain that is mixed with water, salt and baked is easy to eat, carry and lasts much longer.

The grinding would be the hardest part but they were not looking for King Arthur quality flour and it was a job that could be given to the children.

The only thing surprising about this is that they are surprised about it.

47 posted on 07/24/2018 2:38:31 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Bunnies, bunnies, it must be bunnies!! Or maybe midgets....)
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To: vannrox; SunkenCiv

So this is the greatest thing before sliced bread.


48 posted on 07/24/2018 6:42:53 PM PDT by Redcitizen
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; 31R1O; ...
This topic was posted 07/24/2018, thanks again vannrox, wherever you are, and a fool in paradise. A re-ping, to the correct topic this time.

49 posted on 11/23/2022 8:17:08 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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