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Ancient Seeds Yield Once Extinct Squash
Wimp ^ | NOV 24, 2015 | Jake Brannon:

Posted on 01/01/2016 8:36:56 AM PST by Popman

Students from Winnipeg, Canada recently discovered a stash of 800-year-old seeds while on an archaeological dig. The mysterious seeds, once planted, grew into a rare species of squash that has been extinct for hundreds of years. While we don't know if the seeds themselves were safe to eat, the squash that they harvested was absolutely delicious. Check out the images below to see the rare gourd for yourself and learn more about this discovery.

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TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agriculture; animalhusbandry; dietandcuisine; food; gardening; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; huntergatherers; seeds; squash
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To: Popman; SunkenCiv; greeneyes
They look a lot like banana squash.
61 posted on 01/01/2016 11:31:02 AM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: wildbill

“They are now available commercially at most stores as Anasazi beans and I highly recommend them.”

They certainly are good, and they cook faster than other varieties. I grew them for a number of years in the early 90’s as my ‘main’ bean variety. I haven’t thought about them in years, now that you’ve reminded me, I may have to plant some again this spring. For some reason, I went back to pintos as my staple bean. Just finished a plate of pintos with corn tortillas for lunch. Thanks for reminding me of them.


62 posted on 01/01/2016 11:36:13 AM PST by Carthego delenda est
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To: wildbill

I’ve found that no beans require soaking. They all cook up fine just simmering them for a few hours.


63 posted on 01/01/2016 11:42:59 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: MSF BU

“This is interesting. I guess it probably indicates that my five year old packages of swiss chard & pea seeds are not necessarily bad.”

Seed shelf life all depends on the variety of seed and how the seed is stored. A basic rule of thumb for seeds stored in a drawer or closet is the smaller, softer seeds lose their ability to germinate much faster than larger and harder seeds.


64 posted on 01/01/2016 11:45:06 AM PST by Carthego delenda est
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To: Popman

GMO and breeding are two entirely different things. Gene splicing is not cross polinating.

Retro viruses are not your friend.


65 posted on 01/01/2016 11:45:26 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: DugwayDuke
I put squash in the same category as cauliflower, liver, and pumpkin. There is nothing you can do to make them delicious.

Have you tried cooking them?

66 posted on 01/01/2016 11:45:34 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: DugwayDuke

Mash and season cauliflower like mashed potatoes, yum.

Knew someone who freaked over making cauliflower like mashed potatoes. Screeched it was low carb and she’d never feed her family low carb. Of course, she fed her family boiled cauliflower florets 3-4 times a week with the same seasonings. Who knew the mere act of mashing changed the entire chemical make up. Must be the same sheeple who believe putting on a dress and high heels turns a XY into a XX. It’s the Cauliflower Jenner Syndrome. That was just the tip of her iceberg.


67 posted on 01/01/2016 11:50:38 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: Popman
Conflating hybridization with GMO is exactly the sort of confused thinking that the GMO folks want you to make. Hybridization occurs naturally all the time. Artificial gene splicing does not.

Just because we've deciphered the genetic alphabet doesn't mean we can read and understand DNA. While we think we have an understanding of some DNA, such understanding is in its infancy. Writing DNA and pretending we understand the full impact of what we're writing is simply an act of pure hubris at this stage of technology. That is the main argument against GMO. It's the same argument the many currently make about the potential dangers of so-called "strong" AI.

68 posted on 01/01/2016 11:59:25 AM PST by AustinBill (consequence is what makes our choices real)
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To: Politicalkiddo; greeneyes; Diana in Wisconsin

It does not sound like they will be widely distributed.
see story.

http://seedkeeping.tumblr.com/post/103473484432/gete-okosomin-cool-old-squash-cucurbita

and

http://welrp.org/indigenous-seed-library

If you are looking for heirloom varieties you could look at:

https://www.jungseed.com

http://www.rareseeds.com/

(Check out their black carrots!)

http://www.seedsavers.org/

Until some rule changes by the O admin this was a place where people would exchange old heirloom varieties. Now you have to buy them.


69 posted on 01/01/2016 12:04:24 PM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: Lazamataz
This will end just like Jurrasiac Park.

Huge maneating squashes will terrorize everyone on the island.


70 posted on 01/01/2016 12:15:48 PM PST by null and void (</x>)
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To: AustinBill
Conflating hybridization with GMO is exactly the sort of confused thinking that the GMO folks want you to make. Hybridization occurs naturally all the time. Artificial gene splicing does not.

Well, maybe we need to undermine them by calling it something else...like "artificial gene splicing" (AGS)

71 posted on 01/01/2016 12:15:50 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: Popman
CMU squashes false tale with story of growing relations

The story that accompanied the "Gete~Okosomin" squash seeds was that they were found in a clay ball at an archaeological excavation near the Wisconsin~Illinois border. It went on to suggest that the dating of the clay ball indicated that the seeds were more than 800 years old. The story captured the imagination of seed savers and gardeners across the continent. It is a good story, but is it true?

When asked, Kenton Lobe, instructor in international development studies and one of the CMU Farm's founders, smiles. "The truth of the story of these squash seeds is still emerging," he said. Further digging into the history reveals that they were originally gifted to David Wrone, a University of Wisconsin emeritus historian, by some elder women gardeners from the Miami Nation in Indiana in 1995.

72 posted on 01/01/2016 12:16:18 PM PST by wtd
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To: Pining_4_TX
"What scares me is the tinkering going on with making designer babies. A lot of that is happening in China..."

Taller Cinese men with decent size penises, and less slanty eyes! Oh wait, that's white guys...never mind.

73 posted on 01/01/2016 12:38:43 PM PST by Basket_of_Deplorables (Trump: Black Swan Event--Black Swan Don)
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To: Lazamataz
This will end just like Jurrasiac Park.
Huge maneating squashes will terrorize everyone on the island.

Great minds . . . :-)


74 posted on 01/01/2016 12:40:18 PM PST by Oatka (ES)
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To: Popman
You have to be careful resurrecting things that are dead and buried, you never know what might happen:


75 posted on 01/01/2016 12:53:58 PM PST by PLMerite (The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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To: wildbill

You are so right about this bean...And a lot less gas-causing than other pinto beans...

https://www.anasazibeans.com/index.html

Sweeter and more toothsome than regular pintos...Great in any Mexican dish where beans are called for and especially good with ham in a slow cooker...

Available in bulk direct from Dove Creek, CO...


76 posted on 01/01/2016 1:03:24 PM PST by elteemike (Light travels faster than sound...That's why so many people appear bright until you hear them speak!)
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To: NonValueAdded

Here's a photo of a fine leather portmanteau. The portmanteau you created and posted is finer.

77 posted on 01/01/2016 1:16:10 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Popman

It seems unlikely that a particularly popular variety of squash or any other plant would become “extinct”. If it was any good the seeds would be widespread and unlikely to be lost. I imagine that the varieties that taste bad, grow poorly or are hard to store would be more likely to disappear.


78 posted on 01/01/2016 1:19:49 PM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (It's the apocalypse, lets have some fun!)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude
I imagine that the varieties that taste bad, grow poorly or are hard to store would be more likely to disappear.

If they don't ship well or store well you won't find many of them - except maybe in old farm gardens.

79 posted on 01/01/2016 1:22:59 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: bgill

Can’t stand cauliflower either. Love broccoli but can’t stand the texture of cauliflower. Doesn’t matter how you fix it, it still has a grainy texture that I find disagreeable. Did I tell you I can’t stand oatmeal either? Same issue, not the taste, the texture.


80 posted on 01/01/2016 1:40:22 PM PST by DugwayDuke
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