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WaPo/ABC Poll: Trump Ahead of Carson By 10 Points [32%/22%]
Newsmax ^ | Wednesday, 21 Oct 2015 10:08 AM | Cathy Burke

Posted on 10/21/2015 8:02:42 AM PDT by GonzoII

Newsmax

WaPo/ABC Poll: Trump Ahead of Carson By 10 Points

Wednesday, October 21, 2015 10:08 AM

By: Cathy Burke

Donald Trump leads the GOP presidential field not only in support, but in high expectations as well, a new poll shows.

In the Washington Post/ABC News survey, the real estate billionaire has the backing of a whopping 32 percent of Republican-leaning voters – but 42 percent say they expect Trump to win the GOP nomination and 43 percent pick him for having the best shot at winning the November 2016 election.

Trump is followed by retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson at  22 percent. The rest of the pack:


Here's the breakdown in expectations for most likely to win the GOP nomination: Here's who has the best chance to win the general election:

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California; US: Florida; US: New York; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2016election; bencarson; california; carlyfiorina; election2016; florida; jebbush; marcorubio; newyork; poll; polls; tedcruz; texas; trump
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To: spokeshave

Opps, seems the politics of accusation here bite more then your intended target Carson. Might want to re-think your tactics.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/423337/trumps-pal-al-sharpton

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/423337/trumps-pal-al-sharpton


21 posted on 10/21/2015 8:41:55 AM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered.)
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To: Zenjitsuman; Isara
Carson is not quite what everyone 'wants' him to be. And when some of the 'real' person seeps through, his sycophants bury their heads in the sand.

We saw the same adulations toward Fred Thompson in 2008, when too many were building him into what they wanted him to be, not what he was.

Isara posted a chart comparing Cruz, Carson and Trump on the major issues. That chart showed Carson with more unknowns than knowns.

Carson has too many ‘mixed’ views on the issues.

Color each green and he looks perfect to the conservatives.

Color each red and he looks like he should be appearing in the Democrat debates rather than in the Republican debates.

[A recent thread said he has been mostly independent and former Democrat until just about a year ago: EXCLUSIVE: Records show Ben Carson became Republican less than one year ago.]
22 posted on 10/21/2015 8:43:09 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: TomGuy

Good Post


23 posted on 10/21/2015 8:44:13 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: bigbob

If losing decisively is his plan Cruz is right on target. Personally I believe he knows he has no chance but hopes for a good position in the Trump admin. I think he will likely get it too. AG is a much better fit for Cruz than POTUS anyway. How is he going to work with GOP leadership? They hate his guts and they are not afraid of him Trump not so much.


24 posted on 10/21/2015 9:02:11 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: GonzoII
Maybe Hillary! s on a rise, but I predict that one day soon we're gonna wake up to the headline "Carson leads Trump by 10%!"

Political Correctness donchaknow!

25 posted on 10/21/2015 9:02:50 AM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (How can God bless a country that's BUTCHERED 53 million babies?? Almost as many as ALL killed inWWII)
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To: GonzoII

bttt


26 posted on 10/21/2015 9:03:31 AM PDT by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: ConservativeDude
don’t forget the inevitable Trump is quitting, and bush is ascending....

Yes, but millennials are naïve and they will elect her.

27 posted on 10/21/2015 9:03:39 AM PDT by YourAdHere (I just took a huge Obama.)
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To: Zenjitsuman
Why would Carson comes within MILES of Sharpton?

he black

28 posted on 10/21/2015 9:05:25 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory ((ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government))
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To: Zenjitsuman

The Sharpton thing sure darkened my view of Carson. Probably same for many.


29 posted on 10/21/2015 9:08:03 AM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Do math not common core trump + Carson = 50% leaving the remaining 50 for Bush Since neither Trump nor Carson are 50% alone that make Bush the candidate


30 posted on 10/21/2015 9:11:43 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: showme_the_Glory

Apparently BLACK does matter.


31 posted on 10/21/2015 9:12:19 AM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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To: hoosiermama

Carson will fade, nice guy but not ready for prime time. I think by the time it gets down to three Trump will have the plurality.

Time will tell


32 posted on 10/21/2015 9:12:24 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Zenjitsuman

Tawana Brawley accused the Duke Lacrosse Players? Really?


33 posted on 10/21/2015 9:19:30 AM PDT by PJammers (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: GonzoII

This and other polls are why I don’t pay attention to the NBC/WSJ poll.

Here is an even more accurate one. Carson is about as close to 22% as Phoenix is to Los Angeles.

Check Carson’s trend out.

http://polling.reuters.com/#!response/TR130/type/smallest/filters/PARTY_ID_:2/dates/20150808-20151020/collapsed/false


34 posted on 10/21/2015 9:35:19 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: GonzoII

After Carson came out saying he and Al Sharpton have the same goals, just different methods of achieving them, I think that his poll numbers are phoney.


35 posted on 10/21/2015 9:38:35 AM PDT by Lopeover (2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States)
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To: HamiltonJay

Carson will be shown to be under 10% in two weeks.

Yesterday a poll showed Trump at 40%. I laughed.

As a supporter of Trump, I didn’t buy in for a second.

When polls are shown artificially high, look out!

They will soon reflect reality, and the claim will be made that this candidate is dropping.

They won’t be dropping at all, but it will look like it due to manipulation.

It’s a good way to destroy a person’s support by manipulation.

Cruz, Carson, Trump, followers don’t buy into the pie in the sky polls. They’re gaming us.

Think Fiorina and what happened to her.


36 posted on 10/21/2015 9:38:42 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: TomGuy; bmwcyle
green = Good, RED = Bad, yellow = Mixed Ted Cruz Ben Carson Donald Trump
Budget, Spending & Debt green yellow yellow
Civil Liberties green green RED
Education green yellow green
Energy & Environment green yellow green
Foreign Policy & Defense green RED green
Free Market yellow yellow RED
Health Care & Entitlements green green RED
Immigration green RED green
Moral Issues green yellow yellow
Second Amendment green yellow yellow
Taxes, Economy & Trade green yellow yellow

Budget: Cruz has made massive financial deals, has put tens of thosuands of people to work, has run a billion dollar business, and protected a bottom line.  Next flight of fantasy...
Civil Liberties: Trump has said he'll round up and deport illegal immigrants, build a wall that is 60 feet tall along our border.  This results in his red marker on civil liberties.  No sale.
Free Market: The "FREE MARKET"...  Nothing in life is free.  The cost of this "FREE MARKET" has been tens of millions of U. S. jobs.  Trump wants to bring them back.  That warrants a red marker.  LOL
Health Care and Entitlements: Trump has proposed a private sector replacement of Obamacare.  He wants to reduce entitlements as part of getting the budget under control.  This red marker is simply proposterous.
Moral issues:  What moral issues?  Good grief.  Name one moral issue Trump has a problem with.
Second Amendment:  This is simply a fraud.  Trump has a paper on Second Amendment rights, and it's recognized as a good one.
Taxes, Economy, and Trade:  Trump's tax position is good.  His economic experience is second to very few U. S. Citizens.  His trade view are more solid than any other candidate's.

In Cruz's favor, his free market mark isn't deserved either.

Trump is the go to guy because of his economic experience.  He is solid on other issues as well, but second to illegal immigration, our national debt and related matters are vitally important and need to be addressed.  Trump is the only candidate with the experience necessary to do that.

Cruz supporters are pleased to drop this bomb on the forum.

It isn't an accurate display on Trump.  As such it's actually a smear on Cruz when his supporters tout it as a reason to support Cruz.  What they should be doing is pointing out the obvious flaws in this ranking.  And RANK is the proper word here....

As for Carson's ranking here, I don't know him as well as the other two.  I will say that if such blatant falsehoods are revealed regarding Trump, I wouldn't trust a bit of ranking here regarding Carson.

37 posted on 10/21/2015 9:41:52 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: DoughtyOne

I agree, Trump isn’t at 40%.. but I do think Trump and Carson combined are somewhere in the mid to upper 40s currently.

I suspect Carson will fade, and Trump will slowly rise as he slowly wins over some of the naysayers and skeptics.

I fully expect that unless he blows himself up, he’ll continue steady growth.

Fiorina was a joke from the get go, and as I said other places, Carson is a nice guy but not ready for prime time. He’ll fade back into single digits shortly.


38 posted on 10/21/2015 9:44:27 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay

That’s my point until Trump has a plurality Carson can pull enough votes away from Trump for Bush to win.
OToh Carson and Trump have known each other for years. They share a zip code at West Palm Beach.(a golf course in Carson’s backyard. Hmmmm?


39 posted on 10/21/2015 9:48:42 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: MNJohnnie

Forgive me but your comments regarding Carson are very confusing, yesterday you continued to imply that Carson was IN FACT at Trumps Heals, you were touting polls etc to make your point, and scoffing at anybody (was not just me) that said Carson was being pushed.

I am consistent that I dont trust any polls, though I do believe Trump is leaving everybody else in the dust.

You on the other hand seem to select the polls that suit your argument, while seemingly denying the obvious lack of support here for Carson YES HE HAS SUPPORT, but not in line with the polls you are embracing.

Why are you so quick to discard the overwhelming support for Trump here (as I see it) and why are you discarding the Drudge polls etc?

I am sorry there is no evidence at all that Carson is anywhere near nipping at Trumps heals. If you think so then you might want to rethink some of your comments you said about me and direct them instead at yourself.


40 posted on 10/21/2015 9:51:21 AM PDT by Chauncey Uppercrust (TRUMP/CRUZ 2016 OR BUST)
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