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Dems to spin Fast & Furious probe into gun-control rally
http://hotair.com ^ | June 30 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 07/01/2011 5:40:20 AM PDT by Durus

After yesterday’s news of the deal between Senators Pat Leahy and Charles Grassley to get documents and testimony from ATF chief Kenneth Melson on Operation Fast and Furious, it seemed as though Democrats might finally take the scandal of the gunrunning fiasco seriously. Alas, Elijah Cummings and House Democrats appear uninterested in abuses of government power, incompetence, and potential cover-ups at AFT and the Department of Justice. In fact, they want to turn the probe into an argument for expanding government control of firearms:

The top Democrat on a House investigative committee is broadening an inquiry into a botched gun-tracing operation, called Operation Fast and Furious, to include a look at American gun laws. Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-Md.), the leading Democrat on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, released a report early Thursday titled “Outgunned,” that details how Bureau for Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives agents say gun laws need to be tightened for them to fight organized crime along the U.S.-Mexico border

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To: Erik Latranyi
That's basically along the lines of what I was thinking.

Terrorist attacks with American weapons. Look at the panic caused by the DC snipers. This country would be paralyzed. Every left wing freak would be screaming for the govt to do something about all the guns, and I don't have a doubt Zippo would try.

The Mexican drug cartels don't need American weapons.

They may be using the cartels to get the weapons to the terrorist because they have the people to do it and if they get caught, which they have, then it's just dope dealers getting weapons not terrorist getting weapons.

The ATF clearly aren't the brightest bulbs in the lamp, but nobody is so incompetent they would think they could track weapons once they crossed the border, especially without the cooperation of the Mexican govt.

The selling of guns to cartels for gun control story just doesn't add up. I really don't know how to explain it, but to me it's just too convenient. It sound like a story created because that is what people want to believe.

21 posted on 07/01/2011 11:59:52 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: Durus
ATF Whistleblower Speaks Out
Jun 30, 2011 - 6:15 - Vince Cefalu, who's being pushed out by the agency, discusses the botched gun operation

Fox News interview with senior agent Vince Cefalu. He has been terminated and says about 30 other agents have been terminated due to their opposition to operation Fast and Furious. Says DoJ was intimately involved.


22 posted on 07/01/2011 2:40:16 PM PDT by TigersEye (Wranglers not Levis. Levi Strauss is anti-2nd Amendment.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Durus.


23 posted on 07/01/2011 9:20:31 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's the Obamacare, stupid! -- Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: bcsco

Please add me to your ping list.


24 posted on 07/01/2011 9:25:30 PM PDT by REDWOOD99
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To: Durus

No surprise, they are just continuing with the original intent of the debacle.

Mere facts and being discovered are not enough to sway them from their intended course.


25 posted on 07/01/2011 11:18:56 PM PDT by Loyal Sedition (Loyal Sedition, often described as "To the right of Attila The Hun"!)
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To: TigersEye

This interview left much to be desired. Cefalu, I hope, has provided much more specific information to Grassley and Issa. Also, with the information that he supposedly has available, why wasn’t he called to attend Issa’s first hearing?


26 posted on 07/02/2011 4:12:59 AM PDT by Melchior
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To: SunkenCiv

This certainly is a mess.

The mainly slime media will toe the dimoc’rat line, and the mindless hoards that have been spewing out of the public schools for fifty years will lap up the kool-aid like nectar.

And it’s all the Republicans’ fault.

Meantime, the truth comes out on Fox, and the only people who see it are Conservatives who already know all about it.

If Issa and Grassley get any impeachments and convictions out of this, they’ll be tarred and feathered with the “McCarthyism” lie. But that’s a big “if.”


27 posted on 07/02/2011 4:47:10 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.)
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To: REDWOOD99

Glad to have you. Welcome to the AFIRE! ping list.

I do weekday a.m. updates of the most recent immigration threads, plus updates during the course of the day, when applicable.

bcsco


28 posted on 07/02/2011 5:33:37 AM PDT by bcsco
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To: Durus
The minority whitewash on gunwalking begins:

On March 16, 2011, Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell E. Issa launched an investigation into allegations that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), as part of an effort known as Operation Fast and Furious, failed to properly monitor hundreds of firearms acquired by suspected straw purchasers and destined for drug cartels in Mexico.

And that is all it has to say about the actual gunwalking. The truth is that they did not "fail to properly monitor" the guns. The agents were ordered not to track the guns, and there is a difference between failing (which would indicate trying) and being ordered not to try.
29 posted on 07/02/2011 7:22:04 AM PDT by publiusF27
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To: agere_contra

Fast and Furious might have been designed for just that, to screw and blame the dealers for cooperating.

“The government is never wrong” cornered dog CYA mode is on going. These people are like rapists, and they rape, and then they murder. THey count on being kept alive because their victims are too weak, or so condidered.


30 posted on 07/02/2011 7:44:32 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: Erik Latranyi

“...They are circling the wagons, folks! We must be getting close to something big!...”

So as a result, OUR wagons must ALWAYS be circled. This is THE single most-criminal administration in the history of this country.

They mean us harm. Have no doubts about it. They are rotten and Red to the core.


31 posted on 07/02/2011 8:16:24 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Durus

Typical Dems—caught with their hands in the cookie jar they demonize the cookies.


32 posted on 07/02/2011 9:33:50 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("Sans Sarah-Bachmann's The One.")
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