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Officer won't sign order for troop indoctrination
WND ^ | 25 December 2010 | Brian Fitzpatrick

Posted on 12/25/2010 4:20:55 AM PST by plsjr

President Obama's repeal of the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy is already damaging the U.S. military.

An Army lieutenant colonel has asked to be relieved of command rather than order his troops to go through pro-homosexual indoctrination following the repeal of the policy, which required homosexuals to keep silent about their sexual preference.

Currently the commander of a battalion-sized unit in the Army National Guard, the officer also has threatened to resign his commission rather than undergo "behavior modification" training intended to counter his religious convictions about homosexuality.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: armedforces; army; catamites; dadt; fdrq; gayisokay; glbt; homosexual; homosexualagenda; hrc; indoctrination; military; militaryjustice; nationalguard; obama; pc; politicallycorrect; sodomites; sodomy
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To: Feckless
I'll never forget when the Carter Administration force fed women into ADA units in Germany. They did it without upgrading the facilities for women, which meant male E-5s and E-6s were forced back into the barracks so that female E-1s and E-2s could live off base.

I was fortunate that I didn't have to deal with all the problems that resulted from this decision. Life on a Nike-Hercules was tough enough without throwing women into the mix.

61 posted on 12/25/2010 8:21:45 AM PST by Night Hides Not (If Dick Cheney = Darth Vader, then Joe Biden = Dark Helmet)
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To: sport

Where did you get that information?


62 posted on 12/25/2010 8:44:36 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: RJS1950
My father and everyone of his age didn’t come back with a more permissive attitude.

You must have been busy, getting to know everyone of his age.

63 posted on 12/25/2010 9:01:17 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: plsjr

I’m simply amazed there still AREl Officers in the military with this level of conviction and common sense after all the weeding out of true warriors they’ve engaged in for decades now.

Bravo, Sir!


64 posted on 12/25/2010 9:32:04 AM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: kenmcg

God Bless you!!!!


65 posted on 12/25/2010 9:41:41 AM PST by MotherRedDog
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To: fwdude
In case you're wondering, I'm referring to civil war.

I am sure the New Republic of Texas will take everyone of them.

66 posted on 12/25/2010 9:42:38 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: rambo316
The ‘solution’ is for the next more conservative Congress to write law which reinforces the UCMJ making overt sexual/homosexual behavior criminal and will result in expulsion from the force. Yes, the scumbucket democrats and their barry the bastard will veto it. BUT that is the exposure of their progressive agenda which must be done to end their tyranny over our Republic!
67 posted on 12/25/2010 9:51:40 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: plsjr
I believe we should allow troops who cannot go along with this policy a way out. If troops - in all honesty - cannot serve with gays, then those troops should be allowed to ask for and receive an honorable discharge.
68 posted on 12/25/2010 9:57:56 AM PST by quadrant (1o)
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To: RaceBannon; Don Corleone
maybe that he was right, the influence of music upon young minds is overwhelming

The music is just the massage. The lyrics are the message. The message is the problem. That and lots of drugs.

69 posted on 12/25/2010 10:21:57 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: NoGrayZone

If the poofers are going to try a civil war against the non poofers my money is on the non poofer.


70 posted on 12/25/2010 11:03:05 AM PST by Americanexpat (Everytime I see that guy's face ot)
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To: joe fonebone

Joe you are dead wrong. Questioning the legal validity of an order is what LTC Lakin did. LTC had a duty under the UCMJ to do same. Joe, you clearly do not know of what you speak.


71 posted on 12/25/2010 11:03:08 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Americanexpat

Mega dittos.


72 posted on 12/25/2010 11:37:18 AM PST by NoGrayZone (What we conservatives call the privates, the liberals call public access! (thnx Balding_Eagle)
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To: 101voodoo
I do recall back in the 1950’s rock and roll was going to lead to the irreparable tearing of our social and moral fabric

It did. What's your point?

73 posted on 12/25/2010 4:18:01 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: 101voodoo
The difference between then and now is not the music it is the lack of parental oversight in the raising of their own children.

So what's your point?

"This won't kill us, get over yourselves you phobes, gay is OK, don't knock it until you've tried it, and you're probably gay yourself anyway"?

Well?

74 posted on 12/25/2010 4:24:53 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: quadrant
If troops - in all honesty - cannot serve with gays, then those troops should be allowed to ask for and receive an honorable discharge.

No. No concessions. Do NOT surrender the colors.

Make these people bring court-martial charges against enlisted and officers alike who won't go along with the "gay is okay" program. Make them go high-profile against brave, serving men and women of moral character, in public.

Demand the Reds mount their show trials where we can all see what happens, and what these "toleration" advocates are really made of.

75 posted on 12/25/2010 4:28:05 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: 101voodoo

“Not saying your over blowing (pun intended) this a bit but I do recall back in the 1950’s rock and roll was going to lead to the irreparable tearing of our social and moral fabric”

And you bring that up to say that it has, or has not, or that you haven’t a clue? I was born in ‘55, and I’m not sure how it’s worked out, myself, though I’m tending towards “shredding” as the appropriate description...


76 posted on 12/25/2010 4:59:59 PM PST by Old Student
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To: Venturer; All

“Hopefully he is the first of many who resign their commission rather than order his men to attend indoctrination classes to accept homosexuality.”

It is a conundrum. If all the moral people resign, then only the immoral or amoral will be left. A group of armed persons without morality to keep them in check is nothing more than a rabble...it isn’t an army.

What is a better idea is to lobby the incoming House to push legislation that forbids indoctrination over the homosexual issue. Also, legislation that will not allow homosexuals in the military to be considered a “class” of person that requires special protection. Don’t ever allow homosexuals to claim EEO protections.

OR give anyone with moral objections to homosexuality EEO protections as a class that protects them from “indoctrination” classes and reprissal for their beliefs. That would really stir up the liberals.

Anyway...surrendering the military to the immoral/amoral is not really a viable option. They will just lower the standards for soldiers more to fill recruiting goals. And the people will then have to fear those in uniform.


77 posted on 12/25/2010 5:04:25 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: plsjr

I don’t know why they don’t make public the units that are doing this. Maybe if they did they would encourage others who are considering it.


78 posted on 12/25/2010 5:14:26 PM PST by Little Pharma
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To: All

Also, if all the GOP controlled states (legislature & governor) would pass legislation refussing to allow homosexuals to serve in their national guard units...and stick to it as a State Right and ignore the courts.

Then it would take a big chunk of the total Army out of control of the POTUS. The modern Army relies heavily upon the NG to fill out gaps in combat operations. If governors/legislators held fast...it would create such a stir that the SECDEF could NEVER certify that DADT repeal was going OK. This country is very dependent on the ARNG. If just one major state like Texas was to do this...it would cripple the effort to homosexualize the military.

The National Guard is VERY political where the governor of the state can control who are the senior officers in his state units. By purging his state guard of any senior officer that wasn’t conservative and loyal to conservative principles first, then such a move by states would be possible. An attempt to federalize a state Guard by the POTUS will not work if the senior officers in that state guard refuse to comply....owing first allegiance to the governor. When I was commissioned in the national guard, my original commission came from the governor of the state. Later I received “federal” recognition. I’m not ARGN anymore. So, I cannot came first loyalty to a governor of a state.

These are pretty desparate measures. The question is, are they called for? Also, can they be accomplished? For that matter, should they even if possible?


79 posted on 12/25/2010 5:23:30 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: fwdude

I saw this on “You Tube” several months ago! It had a young, James Dean look-alike actor named Christopher Jones in it didn’t it?


80 posted on 12/25/2010 9:36:39 PM PST by dsutah
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