Posted on 07/02/2010 11:58:26 AM PDT by Mikey_1962
On Wednesday at 10:40 p.m. law enforcement officers from several agencies were working a detail in the area of Highway 84 and White and Parker Road in Stanfield. A white SUV pulled off of the roadway near where officers from the Gila River Police Department were working.
Using night vision goggles from a distance, the officers observed two individuals in the vehicle appearing to have consensual sexual intercourse. Prior to the officers making contact, the male and female got out of the vehicle and began to argue.
The officers later learned that the male subject was only 14 years old, and the female was identified as 26-year-old Andrea Martinez, a schoolteacher with the Stanfield Elementary School District and a former teacher of the victim.
Both individuals admitted to having sexual intercourse with each other prior to being contacted by officers. Additionally, the victim reported that he had sexual intercourse last month with Ms. Martinez.
Martinez was arrested by Pinal County sheriff's detectives and will be booked this afternoon into the Pinal County Adult Detention Facility.
Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu stated, "It is very upsetting that an adult would take advantage of a child, especially when the adult is placed in a position of trust such as Ms. Martinez. I am very thankful that PCSO detectives and the officers from the Gila River Police Department worked quickly together to put Ms. Martinez behind bars."
The Stanfield Elementary School District was notified of the arrest and is cooperating fully with the investigation.
The point is, the looks are very relevant...like it or not. I know you've been around here a while, but are probably not aware that the "guilty - not guilty" commentary on these threads really began by those of us in the male demographic who saw major prison sentences doled out to males caught in such compromising positions while females appeared to be given veritable slaps on the wrist for identical crimes.
The commentary is a direct indictment of the legal system in which we are all supposed to be equal under the law, but a 35 year old male having sex with a 16 year old female will receive nowhere near equal treatment as a 35 year old female who has sex with a 16 year old male. There's a tremendous disparity there, and those of us who render our verdicts on these cases are merely indulging in a bit of satire. It is in that sense, political speech.
What’s the rate of child abuse in the American Education system? Does anyone have any stats?
Bingo.
Unless you're using thermal imagery...;-)
Thats not all that far from where the Sheriff’s Deputy was shot by smugglers recently(about 20 miles west). Well known smuggling corridor, so the police are pretty well outfitted as far as high speed gear is concerned.
You know, since you continue to go on and on, obviously someone who always must have the last word, I need to go back and correct your obvious misunderstanding.
I don’t know what you took as an offer to “hook up” but there was certainly not one.
If you go back and reread your post #10, your obvious reference to *hitting that* and the rest of the text in the picture certainly suggested a certain prowess on your part. I suggested that it seemed you thought quite a lot of yourself and I don’t see why we should take that at face value. Even funnier is the fact that you then tried to pretend that the phrase I’d hit that doesn’t mean what we all know it means. I suppose you take us all as dolts. Are you a Democrat?
The fact that you got a little irritated by my post, well... I’ll just let it go.
I suspect real statistics are difficult to come by. They might be kept state by state, but it’s probably apples and oranges, as states probably have different standards on what is abuse, etc. I’m not trying to be slippery, but I bet that is the case.
"The irony! It BURNSSSSSSS ussssss!" (/Gollum voice)
I don’t know what you took as an offer to “hook up” but there was certainly not one.
The fact that you got a little irritated by my post
No "irritation" here, I assure you. (Good-natured giggling, certainly... but: that's not even remotely the same thing, really.)
Seriously, though: step away from the keyboard for ten, maybe fifteen minutes. Take a walk around the block, if the weather's nice wherever you happen to be. Breathe into a brown paper bag, if absolutely necessary. Whatever it takes: UNCLENCH. ;)
It is true that the female offenders should be treated the same as male offenders. I don’t see any difference in the offenses, personally.
The idea that this woman’s sexual dalliances with a presumably willing 14 year old boy somehow damaged emotionally him is patently absurd.
I always had a soft sport for boys, having been a mother to 3 of my own. I always thought they got the short end of the stick because they can be a pain the rear end, but they are so funny when you give them a chance. I still get along better with boys than girls, they don’t tend to be drama queens (ok a few FReepers aside! LOL).
And yes, one reason I’m not teaching any more is I didn’t want to teach here in Palm Beach County FL. I liked my little rural East TX school, which was not very PC, we got away with stuff that would not be tolerated in other places (heck, after 9/11 someone brought each teacher a poster with an American flag and In God We Trust on it and we all put them on our doors!)
I liked teaching teenagers. They are knot heads, but it’s fun to watch them grow up. However they are prone to stupid mistakes, and if you don’t have honest to goodness adults in charge of them, you will get more and more incidents like this one. It makes me ill to read these stories. If I had kids today I would probably home school.
To answer my own question: according to the AAUW 2000/Shakeshaft Secondary Analysis 2003, about 6.7% of American students have reported contact-based “Educator Sexual Misconduct”
That figure is from section 3.2 of the Education Department study, “Educator Sexual Misconduct.”, and is one of the lower reported percentages.
Well, I need to locate and read the report and make sure they’re saying what I think they’re saying. But if true, 1 in 14 is one hell of a lot of students.
Thanks for looking! I am going to follow up on this roundup of existing literature on the subject, see where it goes:
http://www2.ed.gov/rschstat/research/pubs/misconductreview/index.html
But not tonight, I got things to do :0)
*sigh*
*sigh*
Have you two met? You're both teachers, so you probably have a lot in common. ;)
I think tho, the problem you will run into is in the definition of what is sexual contact. Is it a hug? Is it a hug the teacher didn’t think was sexual and the student did? And then there is sexual contact that the student never reports (I had a biology teacher who was very *touch* so I just never asked him questions—I’m sure I didn’t misinterpret him, other girls mentioned it too, but no one ever reported him). So, I think even with stats, it will be muddled.
I don’t know how you get useful figures.
Speaking from personal experience, I wholeheartedly agree with you ... and I'm 56 years old, military retiree with 22 years in the Army and Navy, married 25 years to my late wife and five years to my present wife.
I would say that the only effect that it had on me is that I've never had any interest in females younger than me.
Hi, thought you would be interested. Sorry, no Catholic priest involved.
Agreed
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