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UNREAL. Obama May Allow US Soldiers to be Tried in the Hague
Gateway Pundit ^ | 11/28/09 | Gateway Pundit

Posted on 11/27/2009 9:08:57 PM PST by American Dream 246

Unreal. Team Obama may allow US soldiers to be tried in the Hague for war crimes. The Wall Street Journal reported, via Jihad Watch:

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton expressed “great regret” in August that the U.S. is not a signatory to the International Criminal Court (ICC). This has fueled speculation that the Obama administration may reverse another Bush policy and sign up for what could lead to the trial of Americans for war crimes in The Hague.

The ICC’s chief prosecutor, though, has no intention of waiting for Washington to submit to the court’s authority. Luis Moreno Ocampo says he already has jurisdiction—at least with respect to Afghanistan.

Because Kabul in 2003 ratified the Rome Statute—the ICC’s founding treaty—all soldiers on Afghan territory, even those from nontreaty countries, fall under the ICC’s oversight, Mr. Ocampo told me. And the chief prosecutor says he is already conducting a “preliminary examination” into whether NATO troops, including American soldiers, fighting the Taliban may have to be put in the dock.

“We have to check if crimes against humanity, war crimes or genocide have been committed in Afghanistan,” Mr. Ocampo told me. “There are serious allegations against the Taliban and al Qaeda and serious allegations about warlords, even against some who are connected with members of the government.” Taking up his inquiry of Allied soldiers, he added, “there are different reports about problems with bombings and there are also allegations about torture.”

It was clear who the targets of these particular inquiries are but the chief prosecutor shied away from spelling it out.

Asked repeatedly whether the examination of bombings and torture allegations refers to NATO and U.S. soldiers, Mr. Ocampo finally stated that “we are investigating whoever commits war crimes, including the group you mentioned.”


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To: 2111USMC

Ok, I hate her too.


221 posted on 11/28/2009 8:36:37 AM PST by Krodg
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To: Krodg

Good!

:)


222 posted on 11/28/2009 8:38:07 AM PST by 2111USMC
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To: PGR88

Never or next summer


223 posted on 11/28/2009 8:38:28 AM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: American Dream 246

They don’t understand.


224 posted on 11/28/2009 8:38:50 AM PST by expatguy (Support "An American Expat in Southeast Asia" - DONATE)
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To: American Dream 246
The problem is, the ICC was designed to bring justice to situations where it was otherwise impossible to bring justice. For example, if a dictatorial leader of a country commits crimes, who brings him to justice?

In other words, it was intended to bring justice to third world basket case cesspools. However, the left sees it as: (1) another path to achieve their goals; and (2) inherently "more fair" than a racistsexistbigotedhomophobe U.S. court.

Nevermind we have a criminal justice system which is the envy of the world. Nevermind the same liberals who will push for Americans to be tried in the ICC, without a jury or other U.S. Constitutional concepts, think Mumia got a raw deal.

Which brings up a point. If the U.S. willingly let an American military member, subject to the UCMJ, be tried by the ICC, despite the fact we have not ratified the treaty (and the Senate never will ratify this), and the ICC defers first to the local countries (read "jurisdictions"), which means the U.S. Military justice system (read "Executive Branch") has a right of refusal on the case, said ICC case would violate the protections and rights guaranteed under the Sixth Amendment (namely, a jury trial).

This would open a huge hole for the accused to then sue the Federal Government for violating his Constitutional rights.

225 posted on 11/28/2009 8:39:45 AM PST by magellan
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To: manc
came here for a dream and this was not the dream when I first came here and I am pissed off

I can't imagine how you feel as I was lucky enough to be born here. However, I can sympathize with the idea that this is no longer the country I grew up in and especially the pissed off part! Thank you for coming to America and standing up to fight the islamo-facist communist coup that is taking place before our eyes.

226 posted on 11/28/2009 8:40:02 AM PST by Just A Nobody ( (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA))
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To: RadioCirca1970

The smell of that nasty bit*h is all over everything he does. She’s trying to woo the military. She knows she will need them when the final coup begins.


227 posted on 11/28/2009 8:40:27 AM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Yeah but we’re armed to the teeth...slight difference...

Do a little reasearch on “the battle of Athens Tenn USA” 1946...

When citizens and veterans threw out a corrupt democrat political machine by use of arms.


228 posted on 11/28/2009 8:40:28 AM PST by Crim
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To: manc

Infuriating, isn’t it?


229 posted on 11/28/2009 8:42:16 AM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: y'all

Everybody read the link about the 9 million fraudulent voters (not counting illegals).

0 didn’t really win the election, and it’s easier to get through the day knowing that. For me, anyway.


230 posted on 11/28/2009 8:43:51 AM PST by txhurl
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To: 444Flyer

I live for the day that POS gets what’s coming to him and it will. He will have to leave his cushy WH sooner or later, one way of the other. I wish him nothing but the worst life has to offer.


231 posted on 11/28/2009 8:44:22 AM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: mojitojoe

YES

Every pissing day I read another piece of crap form this white house and his radical friends.
Then when I try to explain to some idiots about what is happening they couldn’t care less.


232 posted on 11/28/2009 8:44:55 AM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman, end of. -end racism end affirmative action)
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To: R0CK3T
IF it ever did happen I agree that his ability to hold onto power would be unsustainable, Impeachment would be the least of his problems if that happened.

I think you are in dreamland, if you really believe that.

233 posted on 11/28/2009 8:45:16 AM PST by itsahoot (Each generation takes to excess, what the previous generation accepted in moderation.)
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To: American Dream 246

if American service personnel can be subject to foreign courts, then, so can the President.

0bama has authorized the use of unmanned drones for attacking civilian targets inside Pakistan. there is no other interpretation...when the shoot a missile at a suspected militant house, and when that house also has women and children...its a war crime...according to the same people who are pushing this trial of US military and (presumably CIA and contract operatives) others.

0bama will be charged with war crimes...and tried in absentia and convicted...that is my prediction.


234 posted on 11/28/2009 8:45:22 AM PST by kralcmot (my tagline died with Terri)
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To: manc
I saw my old country go to crap

You got that right old bean !!

235 posted on 11/28/2009 8:48:01 AM PST by 1066AD
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To: voveo

“Are we at the tipping point? I have had it!”

I have been for some time!


236 posted on 11/28/2009 8:48:32 AM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: kralcmot

0bama will be charged with war crimes...and tried in absentia and convicted...


?


237 posted on 11/28/2009 8:48:56 AM PST by txhurl
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To: American Dream 246

Tell me how great 0’b is again, I forgot, comeon now, one of you suckers who voted for him must know.


238 posted on 11/28/2009 8:52:19 AM PST by Waco (Stay as bootiful as ya are Karvile.)
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To: firebrand
Even after the 2006 elections, when the Dems had a majority, they would not release the impeachment of Bush out of committee. Impeachment of Obama is an even more remote possibility.

The ONLY reason they did not attempt to impeach President Bush was because THEY HAD NOTHING ON HIM! They would have had to back up their insane so-called charges with FACTS and evidence of those facts. They had NOTHING, so they would have exposed themselves to all the world for the frauds that they were/are. By not attempting to impeach him, they can continue their insane rants and lies. Many have at least some degree of suspicion that there may be some truth to their lies.

There is no need to impeach the usurper...simply demand his birth certificate and have him removed.

239 posted on 11/28/2009 8:53:04 AM PST by Just A Nobody ( (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA))
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To: onedoug
Wrecking the United States with every move. So, what’s the news?

The news is that we are still sitting on our rear ends.


240 posted on 11/28/2009 8:54:25 AM PST by magooey (The Mandate of Heaven resides in the hearts of men)
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