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Obama in a Bind Over Country of Birth
News Blaze ^ | November 25, 2009 | Alan Gray

Posted on 11/25/2009 6:15:50 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

President Obama is in a fix over his country of birth.

The President started to dig the hole as Senate candidate and now he is president, the hole is getting deeper and uglier, mainly because of his evasive actions. Many Democrat supporters are either ignoring the problem or are vehemently attacking "birthers" who question the President's eligibility.

Republicans are not the only ones concerned about his eligibility. Libertarians, independents, constitutionalists and even democrats are wondering why Obama is fighting so hard to hide his origin.

Unfortunately, Obama dug the hole himself, and like a hole created when a water main leaks and then bursts, the hole is expanding day by day and as it does, the fallout is increasing.

The President and his legal teams have done everything in their power to prevent anyone from accessing his real birth certificate, if he has one, but there are other lines of investigation they cannot block.

During his campaign for the Senate, he and his team touted his Kenyan birth, possibly because it made him more appealing to the voters they needed. Unfortunately, admitting to his birth in Kenya makes him ineligible for the Presidency.

So the question now is, was he really born in Kenya and he told the truth in the Senate campaign, or was he really born in Hawaii, and the Kenya story was a lie, used to deceive Illinois voters.

Obama can't have it both ways. The answer to this question will be interesting!

Of course, he could say the campaign and the reporters all got it wrong, but it will be interesting to follow the trail on this investigation and discover the sources for the AP story that documents the apparent fact that Obama was Kenyan born.

If it wasn't the truth back then, why didn't he stop the campaign using that information and why didn't he make the AP issue a retraction?

Obama supporters who say it is nobody's business, need to take a step back, imagine the president is George Bush and ask themselves the same question they should ask now. "Is it OK for the President to hide his origin and what are his motives for doing it?"

I want there to be a simple, truthful answer to these questions, but I have a strange feeling the answer is not what any of his supporters wants to hear.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: bho44; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; constitution; hoax; ineligible; kenyabelieveit; kenyanborn; notpresident; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; soetoro; treason; unconstitutional
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To: Armedanddangerous

We have a good idea what the left would do if it was undeniable he was foreign born.

First, politicians would enact legislation to allow foreign born citizens to be president, grandfathering in Obama if needed. We know this from attempts of numerous Democrats having put forth legislation to this effect prior to and after the One was chosen.

The Courts would rule the people voted him in and would be hesitant to remove him from office because of this - that the people were lied to would not matter since politicians lie on a regular basis and that does not change the outcome of an election.

The press would put forth editorials on how the US is missing out by not allowing the greatest minds or most qualified people into the White House because they were born on foreign soil. They would defend Obama throughout if they even lowered themselves to report the story. Birthers would be blamed for harming Michelle and the Obama’s wonderful children.

The left would split with 1/2 denying he was foreign born even if he admitted to it, the other 1/2 would admit he was but not care. We’re all children of the world donchaknow...


241 posted on 11/26/2009 4:14:07 PM PST by Brytani (Support Lt. Col Allen West for Congress - www.allenwestforcongress.com)
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To: Brytani; katiekins1; IsthmusGalKathie
“Obamacrimes, FR, Canada Free Press, WND and other sites have tried to archive everything that can be found knowing the next day it may simply disappear.”

For sure, Canada Free Press is a site to keep up with on information! It is investigative research at it's best!

My hope is that one day you three Freeper friends of mine get to meet each other in person! :)

242 posted on 11/26/2009 4:15:01 PM PST by seekthetruth ("PLEASE PRAY FOR OBAMA - Psalm 109:8 ")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“It doesn’t seem to matter, though, does it? “

It might not seem to matter but he has spent over $1 million, has the entire lamestream media on the attack, and is attacking anyone who questions his right to President.

I’d say that flack means were over target.


243 posted on 11/26/2009 4:17:21 PM PST by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: Canadian Outrage
I’m not a 100% sure he was born in Kenya either. I’m seriously wondering if that is the “thing” that Canada is under threat over - his Canadian birth? We shall see. CO

In other words: hiding in plain sight?

Of one thing I am 99 percent certain: based on what I know of birth certificates, BO was not born in ANY Hawaiian hospital.

244 posted on 11/26/2009 4:17:35 PM PST by thecodont
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To: thecodont

I am sure of that also thecodant!! Something stinks to high heaven. You know it, I know it, A LOT of folks know it. And for sure Obama knows it!! There is NO other reason that would cause a person to fight like a banshee and at such expense just to hide WHO he is, where he came from, where he was educated, his medical records - absolutely EVERYTHING!! No other reason than there is everything to hide. He’s a FRAUD!! CO


245 posted on 11/26/2009 4:47:24 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (Conservatism is to a country what medicine is to a wound - HEALING!!)
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To: thecodont

I am sure of that also thecodant!! Something stinks to high heaven. You know it, I know it, A LOT of folks know it. And for sure Obama knows it!! There is NO other reason that would cause a person to fight like a banshee and at such expense just to hide WHO he is, where he came from, where he was educated, his medical records - absolutely EVERYTHING!! No other reason than there is everything to hide. He’s a FRAUD!! CO


246 posted on 11/26/2009 4:47:43 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (Conservatism is to a country what medicine is to a wound - HEALING!!)
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To: Canadian Outrage

Obozo is taking the white Bronco O.J. ride with his BC.

The fact that he’s running away from it doesn’t mean he’s guilty or anything...


247 posted on 11/26/2009 4:58:50 PM PST by Canedawg (Bring lawyers, guns and money.)
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To: Brytani; seekthetruth; All

I will try to excavate archived links from my desk top. Thanks for your response.


248 posted on 11/26/2009 5:39:33 PM PST by katiekins1 ( I am preparing a table for you in the presence of your enemies, and you shall feast on the beasts)
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To: Brytani; seekthetruth; All
I was watching Brett Bair, Charles Krauthammer et al at 17 00 central time. During their round table discussion, the panel were expressing what they are thankful for on Thanksgiving. Krauthammer’s statement nearly caused me to spit my beverage all over my table as Krauthammer said he humbled to be an American citizen even though he wasn't born here. Shortly after, Krauthammer blurbs out that Ovomit should be even more thankful because he was reared in Indonesia. I have to say, I was taken back when I heard Charles say that.

(Gasps!)

249 posted on 11/26/2009 6:03:04 PM PST by katiekins1 ( I am preparing a table for you in the presence of your enemies, and you shall feast on the beasts)
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To: katiekins1
Krauthammer’s statement nearly caused me to spit my beverage all over my table as Krauthammer said he humbled to be an American citizen even though he wasn't born here. Shortly after, Krauthammer blurbs out that Ovomit should be even more thankful because he was reared in Indonesia. I have to say, I was taken back when I heard Charles say that.

Why did this surprise you? Has Krauthammer previously dismissed "birther" talk as nonsense? Perhaps he is waking up to the facts?

250 posted on 11/26/2009 6:08:54 PM PST by thecodont
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To: wendy1946
I guess I was thinking of Boris Badunov from Rocky and Bullwinkle fame. Shows you how much I know.

Yes, I hope we can get Obama out of there before he can get our freedoms out of here.

251 posted on 11/26/2009 6:10:12 PM PST by Jim W N
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To: katiekins1
Shortly after, Krauthammer blurbs out that Ovomit should be even more thankful because he was reared in Indonesia.

Are you sure Krauthammer wasn't suggesting that Obama should be even "more thankful" to be in the US than he -- because Obama was "reared in Indonesia" and thus had experience with what it was like to live in the Third World?

That's the way I understood it.

252 posted on 11/26/2009 6:10:28 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: Brytani; Armedanddangerous
The press would put forth editorials on how the US is missing out by not allowing the greatest minds or most qualified people into the White House because they were born on foreign soil.

Some law professors have already written papers arguing this very thing. They seem, however, to see access to the Presidency as a civil rights issue, when in fact it is a matter of national security that the chief executive be a natural born citizen with no conflicting loyalties.

253 posted on 11/26/2009 6:10:40 PM PST by thecodont
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To: okie01; katiekins1; Brytani
I missed hearing Krauthammer this evening, but his saying that BO was reared in Indonesia is quite significant! One could not be “reared in Indonesia” at that time without giving up US citizenship (if he did in fact have it to begin with). It is my understanding that Indonesia did not allow dual citizenship.
254 posted on 11/26/2009 6:28:50 PM PST by seekthetruth ("PLEASE PRAY FOR OBAMA - Psalm 109:8 ")
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To: Canadian Outrage
BLANK SLATE POTUS

He is America's first witness protection president.

255 posted on 11/26/2009 6:32:15 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs, nothing more than bald haired hippies.)
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To: katiekins1

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

I’d love it if Obama’s approval have reached the point where the media will actually start admitting to what they’ve known all along, or at least begin to investigate Dear Leader.


256 posted on 11/26/2009 6:38:03 PM PST by Brytani (Support Lt. Col Allen West for Congress - www.allenwestforcongress.com)
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To: conservativegranny
I was wondering how many father’s Obama has taken away from children while he has been “dithering” over decisions to add troops in Afghanistan?

Circular argument. Big time. There are no guarantees any decision made by Obama on Afghanistan would have affected anything that has happened to this point.

And before you get your dander up, yes he's completely doing our military members in Afghanistan and the AOR in general a disservice by stalling on this issue.
257 posted on 11/26/2009 6:39:40 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Fides et Audax)
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To: thecodont

As has the LA Times, NY Times, LA Slimes and I believe one of the Seattle Papers.

I’m sure there have been more but the call to allow foreigners to enter the office of the Presidency started when Arnold went into politics but reached new heights when Obama was chosen to be the new Dem leader.


258 posted on 11/26/2009 6:40:35 PM PST by Brytani (Support Lt. Col Allen West for Congress - www.allenwestforcongress.com)
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To: TigersEye
Of course. That's far more important than the rule of law or the future of this nation. ***eyes rolling***

So wishing Obama dead is the way to go about it?

Didn't we just go through an episode where some leftist tried to frame the entirety of FR as racist due to the comments of a few? The internet NEVER forgets - especially in a heated political climate.
259 posted on 11/26/2009 6:41:03 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Fides et Audax)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

I usually have to go back and forth with someone a couple of times to realize that they are unable to have an open mind with a subject.

In 50 years I have never heard anyone define someone born in this country as “not being a natural born citizen.” Where the parents are born is of no consequence if the child is born on US soil. The child is automatically a natural born citizen of the country.

What you are saying is insulting to thousands of children of immigrants that have come to this country, fought in our wars, and participated in our society.

Your argument of “look on the internet and read what people write in forums” as the basis for your belief if beyond scary.

For God’s sake, I write on these forums. What makes me an expert on anything.


260 posted on 11/26/2009 6:52:41 PM PST by Vermont Lt (My wife reads my posts. In case the FBI shows up, we will have cookies.)
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