Obama in a Bind Over Country of Birth

News Blaze ^ | November 25, 2009 | Alan Gray

[2ndDivisionVet]

President Obama is in a fix over his country of birth.

The President started to dig the hole as Senate candidate and now he is president, the hole is getting deeper and uglier, mainly because of his evasive actions. Many Democrat supporters are either ignoring the problem or are vehemently attacking "birthers" who question the President's eligibility.

Republicans are not the only ones concerned about his eligibility. Libertarians, independents, constitutionalists and even democrats are wondering why Obama is fighting so hard to hide his origin.

Unfortunately, Obama dug the hole himself, and like a hole created when a water main leaks and then bursts, the hole is expanding day by day and as it does, the fallout is increasing.

The President and his legal teams have done everything in their power to prevent anyone from accessing his real birth certificate, if he has one, but there are other lines of investigation they cannot block.

During his campaign for the Senate, he and his team touted his Kenyan birth, possibly because it made him more appealing to the voters they needed. Unfortunately, admitting to his birth in Kenya makes him ineligible for the Presidency.

So the question now is, was he really born in Kenya and he told the truth in the Senate campaign, or was he really born in Hawaii, and the Kenya story was a lie, used to deceive Illinois voters.

Obama can't have it both ways. The answer to this question will be interesting!

Of course, he could say the campaign and the reporters all got it wrong, but it will be interesting to follow the trail on this investigation and discover the sources for the AP story that documents the apparent fact that Obama was Kenyan born.

If it wasn't the truth back then, why didn't he stop the campaign using that information and why didn't he make the AP issue a retraction?

Obama supporters who say it is nobody's business, need to take a step back, imagine the president is George Bush and ask themselves the same question they should ask now. "Is it OK for the President to hide his origin and what are his motives for doing it?"

I want there to be a simple, truthful answer to these questions, but I have a strange feeling the answer is not what any of his supporters wants to hear.

[Ha Ha Thats Very Logical]

AP as in "African Press" not Associated Press. Slight difference between the two news organizations.

Apparently, it really was an Associated Press story. But it seems that the first paragraph, the one calling Obama "Kenyan-born," wasn't part of the AP piece but was added at the African paper. I decided to search for another phrase in the story, "allegations that horrified fellow Republicans." Most of the hits are for discussions of the story, but this page and this page show the beginning of the article without the paragraph about Obama.

Another link went to Snopes, which says basically the same thing:

However, the Associated Press made no such reference; the identification of Barack Obama as "Kenyan-born" was added to the Sunday Standard's version of the AP story by someone else (who misspelled the politician's given name as "Barrack" in the process) and is apparently unique to that publication. The full text of the "Jack Ryan Abandons Senate Bid" article as originally issued by the Associated Press is retrievable from the LexisNexis archive of global news sources, and it contains no reference (in the lead-in or elsewhere) to Barack Obama's being "Kenyan-born."

I know some here don't trust Snopes, so I wouldn't ordinarily refer to it. But since their account basically confirms what I had already independently figured out, I think it's probably accurate in this instance. The African newspaper took the AP story and gave it what they thought was a local spin--the AP itself never called Obama "Kenyan-born."

[conservativegranny]

I was wondering how many father’s Obama has taken away from children while he has been “dithering” over decisions to add troops in Afghanistan?

[Drew68]

Tonight is the very first time I read or heard that Obama said he was born in Kenya during his Illinois Senate run.

That's because like many birther "facts" this one magically appeared out of thin air with no citation and, like the 1981 Pakistan travel ban, Maya Soetoro's Hawaiian COLB and the famous "I'm not running for president" Obama/Keyes exchange, it will be repeated over and over again on the internet until it takes on the appearance of absolute truth.

[jamese777]

“Well, it didn’t bother the GOP last year—they kept it hushed up as much as BO did— McCain (and his otherwise bigmouthed daughter Princess Krispy Kreme) and the Kennebunkport Kid did an admirable job of staying above the fray—now we’re on the outside looking in as our country is in danger of destruction from within.

It wouldn’t have been a lie or smear or dirty politics (all of which BO has no problem doing to people-and has done his entire career)It was a real issue. But no, we didn’t even bring it up or allow it to be brought up-and no mention of Rev. Wright.... How’d that all work out for us? Now we have Brainless Steele, Bruvahman in Charge, running the GOP—better and better.”

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Amen. Vice President Cheney had the opportunity to intervene at the Certification of the Electoral College vote during the joint session of Congress held on January 8th. Cheney did not even ask if there were any objections to the certification of the Electoral College vote and 535 members of Congress just sat on their hands. No one raised a point of order to submit an objection. If any one Senator and any one Congressman had submitted a written objection, a congressional inquiry into Obama’s eligibility would have been required by law.
A supposed conservative, Chief Justice John Roberts did not have to swear Obama in (TWICE) which makes Roberts compromised in any Supreme Court test of Obama’s eligibility.
The Republican Attorney General of Hawaii Mark Bennett has the statutory authority to subpoena Obama’s original, long form, vault copy Certificate of Live Birth. Bennett has not chosen to convene a Grand Jury investigation and seek such a subpoena. It should be noted that prosecuting attorneys go on Grand Jury “legal fishing expeditions” all the time. But nothing from Bennett.
Obama is not in any kind of a “bind over his country of birth.” Thus far 57 legal challenges and 16 appeals have been adjudicated in state and federal courts including ten challenges at the US Supreme Court. Thus far all adjudications and appeals have been in Obama’s favor and plaintiffs have won no legal challenges.

[LauraJean]

I might have to go and look at the microfilm copies of newspapers.

[LauraJean]

I might have to go and look at the microfilm copies of newspapers.

[Drew68]

There are hundreds of threads going back over a year, and many containing thousands of posts. There are Constitutional scholars and paid White House trolls there duking it out. Go read it.

And these alleged "White House trolls" (a term applied to anyone who's not buying this birther nonsense) have the rule of law behind them while the so-called "Constitutional scholars" have had their arguments laughed out of every courtroom they've been presented in.

[TigersEye]

Exactly! 50+ cases and not one has gone far enough to define NBC or much of anything else. I don’t know what “Vattel” is supposed to mean but I’m sure laughing at you. LOLOLOL

[Danae]

THe Supreme Court is not the Senate. If they refuse to hear a legitimate case that addresses the fact that Obama is not an NBC because of his father’s citizenship they would be negating part of the constitution. If that happens, guaranteed chaos. The Federal government will no longer exist. Except as an imperial ruler. I don’t see the SCOTUS doing that.

No, it a leg case comes to them regarding citizenship they will hear it. AND they will have to define it according to the existing law, if they over turn it, they will quite literally be re-defining Natural Born Citizen, and it will be a different definition than the rest of the world. It will be hard to overturn that much history in law, literally hundreds if not a thousand years worth, because even the Roman empire used these definitions.

Yea, SCOTUS is going to get stuck holding the bag, because it isn’t going to take three years to get to them.

[Danae]

Happy Thanks giving to you too!

I put you on the list!!!

[TigersEye]

--an ad hoc definition created by birthers to be a standard of eligibility that Obama could not possibly meet and one that is found nowhere in the Constitution or any established law.

There is no definition at all of NBC in the Constitution. Only a demagoguing propagandist would bring that up as if it meant something. LOLOL

[Drew68]

Exactly! 50+ cases and not one has gone far enough to define NBC or much of anything else.

We don't need the Supreme Court to tell us that the sky is blue or that water is wet. Born on U.S. soil = Natural Born per the 14th Amendment. Just because a handful of birthers seem to believe that this simple definition needs further clarification (preferably in a manner that would not only disqualify Obama but millions of other Americans as well) doesn't mean that anyone else believes this.

I don’t know what “Vattel” is supposed to mean but I’m sure laughing at you. LOLOLOL

Vattel is, according to birthers, the man who wrote our Constitution and the only "LOLOLOL" going on is from the various judges, both liberal and conservative, as they have so far laughed every birther case out of their courtrooms.

[Canadian Outrage]

I believe what God has to say: NOTHING is hidden that will not be revealed. He cannot dupe God. And I’m not talking about his dead prophet Allah either. CO

[jamese777]

THe Supreme Court is not the Senate. If they refuse to hear a legitimate case that addresses the fact that Obama is not an NBC because of his father’s citizenship they would be negating part of the constitution. If that happens, guaranteed chaos. The Federal government will no longer exist. Except as an imperial ruler. I don’t see the SCOTUS doing that.

No, it a leg case comes to them regarding citizenship they will hear it. AND they will have to define it according to the existing law, if they over turn it, they will quite literally be re-defining Natural Born Citizen, and it will be a different definition than the rest of the world. It will be hard to overturn that much history in law, literally hundreds if not a thousand years worth, because even the Roman empire used these definitions.

Yea, SCOTUS is going to get stuck holding the bag, because it isn’t going to take three years to get to them.

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Seven lawsuits have already reached the US Supreme Court and they have rejected them all. Are you saying that those cases aren’t “legitimate?” It takes four of the nine justices to agree to hear a case before the full Court.
1) Berg v Obama et.al.
2) Craig v U.S.
3) Donofrio v Wells
4) Herbert v US, Obama, John Roberts
5) Lightfoot v Bowen
6) Schneller v Cortes
7) Wrotnowski v Bysiewicz

Its pretty clear to me that the Supreme Court is saying that it is the responsibility of Congress to legislate this issue and then they will rule on the Constitutionality of any law passed by Congress.

[Canadian Outrage]

I’m not a 100% sure he was born in Kenya either. I’m seriously wondering if that is the “thing” that Canada is under threat over - his Canadian birth? We shall see. CO

[Canadian Outrage]

Amen - that is what we aim to prove. I trained as an RN at the Vancouver General Hospital and I’m about to call in a favour from a former doctor friend who has complete access to medical records. There is, however, more than one hospital in Vancouver, B.C. But all we need to do is keeping working at it. You cannot hide the truth forever. CO

[ROCKLOBSTER]

There’s one now.

[Canadian Outrage]

You are right. Makes the man a complete BLANK SLATE doesn’t it? Must be very comforting to have something like that as your POTUS. Hiding everything is the total answer to the question. CO

[TigersEye]

I’d be happy with him out of office.

Let’s remember he DOES have kids and whacko Marxist liberal or not, it’s not the best thing in the world to wish for MORE kids to grow up fatherless.

Agreed?

Of course. That's far more important than the rule of law or the future of this nation. ***eyes rolling***

[Canadian Outrage]

Since you are so comfortable with this BLANK SLATE POTUS why do you even bother yourself with these threads? Makes one wonder? hmmmmm CO