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Pro-Darwin consensus doesn't rule out intelligent design (published on CNN!!!)
CNN ^ | November 23, 2009 | Stephen Meyer, Ph.D.

Posted on 11/24/2009 6:50:51 PM PST by GodGunsGuts

Pro-Darwin consensus doesn't rule out intelligent design

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(CNN) -- While we officially celebrate the 150th anniversary of the publication of Charles Darwin's "On the Origin of Species" on November 24, celebrations of Darwin's legacy have actually been building in intensity for several years. Darwin is not just an important 19th century scientific thinker. Increasingly, he is a cultural icon.

Darwin is the subject of adulation that teeters on the edge of hero worship, expressed in everything from scholarly seminars and lecture series to best-selling new atheist tracts like those by Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens. The atheists claim that Darwin disproved once and for all the argument for intelligent design from nature.

And that of course is why he remains hugely controversial. A Zogby poll commissioned by the Discovery Institute this year found that 52 percent of Americans agree "the development of life was guided by intelligent design." Those who are not scientists may wonder if they have a right to entertain skepticism about Darwinian theory.

Read a leading Darwin proponent's view that evolution leaves no room for intelligent design theory...

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


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To: ColdWater

YOU Cold Water, must answer that one. The Bible says, approach your salvation with fear and trembling.


81 posted on 11/25/2009 4:50:48 AM PST by RoadGumby (Ask me about Ducky)
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To: Ira_Louvin

Ira disguises himself as a Christian, but claims God lies.


82 posted on 11/25/2009 4:53:04 AM PST by RoadGumby (Ask me about Ducky)
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To: MissouriConservative

Oh, please. NO ONE is a paragon, there is none good, no not one. Just further evidence of our fallen nature, and even stronger evidence of our need to turn to God and our need for a Savior.


83 posted on 11/25/2009 4:54:32 AM PST by RoadGumby (Ask me about Ducky)
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To: MissouriConservative

Pastors, preachers and reverends should be teaching Creation, NOT ID.


84 posted on 11/25/2009 4:56:00 AM PST by RoadGumby (Ask me about Ducky)
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To: muawiyah

And sex is not a spontaneous generation of life. Sex is how life was designed to procreate. Life has NOT been observed to come, spontaneously, from non-life. Scientists are trying to ‘make it’ do that. But in nature? not so much


85 posted on 11/25/2009 5:02:10 AM PST by RoadGumby (Ask me about Ducky)
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To: Natural Law
The fact that you are banging out blather on a machine whose computing capacity exceeds the combined computing power that NASA and the Pentagon had 30 years ago, and the fact that your life expectancy is double that of your grandmother is because you CAN trust the work of scientists.

I can live to be 195?!?!?!

That's great news!!!

86 posted on 11/25/2009 5:07:04 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: RoadGumby

And in doing so, implicitly found some things were “religion” and other not.


87 posted on 11/25/2009 5:07:29 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

‘Religion’ is merely a man-made construct that we ‘use’ to reach out to God, nothing more.

The much more important thing is our Faith in Him and His Son. Since ALL things are derived from God, given by Him, Created by Him, then yes, it can hbe said that everything is all about Him.

Insert the word ‘religion’ if you should so choose.


88 posted on 11/25/2009 5:15:02 AM PST by RoadGumby (Ask me about Ducky)
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To: RoadGumby
"Words mean things"

-Rush Limbaugh

89 posted on 11/25/2009 5:16:20 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

Indeed they do. And I do believe I used words to explain what ‘religion’ is. In order to determine the meaning of those words, it helps not to have a ‘skull full of mush’ (Also Rush Limbaugh). Read and try again.


90 posted on 11/25/2009 5:25:58 AM PST by RoadGumby (Ask me about Ducky)
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To: RoadGumby

;)


91 posted on 11/25/2009 5:56:36 AM PST by celmak
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To: muawiyah

I am sorry, but mortgages are not life... and mortgages exist. What life that did not exist before has been created in your lifetime? Anything?

It is debatable whether virus’ are living beings or not. But, what is the relevance that there are “billions of different viruses in the ocean?” I believe all matter and all life are creations of God...it is literally ridiculous to think that matter created itself or that life was created out of inorganic material. But, I am open to listen to where atheist evolutionists come up with their theory of life creation. I have never heard nor read any that can explain the beginning of life. All of them begin life being created from evolved life...which is really ridiculous if one thinks about it...so, back to my question...what is the theory for the creation of life without God and why are there not new life being created every day? Why not new something the size of a Beagle for instance? Or, something that can exist within fire, or something that can live in chlorine...something truly new? Not just a variation of something existing.


92 posted on 11/25/2009 5:56:45 AM PST by Wpin (I do not regret my admiration for W)
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To: Ira_Louvin

Are you even capable of giving a direct answer to a direct question?


93 posted on 11/25/2009 6:27:02 AM PST by YHAOS
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To: tacticalogic
Let me try to help you out, tacticalogic, and explain why there is a "Religion" category.

First, religion is defined as:

1. a. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe. b. A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.

2. The life or condition of a person in a religious order.

3. A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader.

4. A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.

http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/religion

Except for the 4th meaning, which can apply to this thread, the category, “Religion,” was created for such purpose. The 4th meaning can go with just about anything; i.e., “The Evo expresses himself with religion (zeal).”

This thread is based on the article about CNN’s announcement that there is a pro-Darwin consensus that doesn't rule out Intelligent Design (ID). Since the emphasis of the article is on science and the media and the article is not strictly on the basis of religion it is deemed suitable for the category of “News/Activism.”

94 posted on 11/25/2009 6:46:27 AM PST by celmak
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To: metmom
Wow, I was going to research this but you just saved me a lot of time and energy; thanks!

;)

95 posted on 11/25/2009 6:52:30 AM PST by celmak
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To: Grizzled Bear; GodGunsGuts
Gee, I guess THAT means the Earth is only 6000 years old! /SARC

What it means is that the debate is not over no matter how much you would like for it to be over, simply because there is a consensus.
96 posted on 11/25/2009 6:53:37 AM PST by Sopater (I'm so sick of atheists shoving their religion in my face.)
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To: celmak

As near as I can tell, all of the comments about “religion” have been in response to the quote from Jim Robinson, so “religion” would be whatever meaning was consistent with the the way the word was used in that context.


97 posted on 11/25/2009 7:38:55 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: RoadGumby

You keep adding barriers ~ now you want “spontaneity” ~ Hmm.


98 posted on 11/25/2009 7:41:19 AM PST by muawiyah (Git Out The Way)
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To: muawiyah

I added NOTHING. Your comment about sex was in response to the idea of life not starting spontaneously, as if sex shows that life does start spontaneously.

Catch a clue, there is no evidence that life just ‘happens’. No amount of snarkiness or misdirection or subject changing will change that.


99 posted on 11/25/2009 7:57:29 AM PST by RoadGumby (Ask me about Ducky)
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To: Wpin
"1. noting or pertaining to a class of chemical compounds that formerly comprised only those existing in or derived from plants or animals, but that now includes all other compounds of carbon."

Organic compounds have even been found in deep space.

100 posted on 11/25/2009 8:00:47 AM PST by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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