Posted on 11/06/2009 9:39:16 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
Why Evolutionary-Based Science Is A Menace To Scientific Research, Discovery, and Progress
Evolutionary-based research always begins with the inaccurate and unscientific presupposition that the Theory of Evolution, i.e. the Big Bang, the spontaneous generation of life, and common descent, is true.
Due to this systemic problem, scientific discovery and progress is severely hampered, not to mention the hundreds of millions of research dollars that are squandered every year.
In a time in which almost ANY alternative thought is given a platform, the evolution industry is silencing dissenting scientific evidence, even when its from fellow evolutionists!
See the growing list of dissenters and read the case histories of how the evolution industry is hopelessly locked in a battle with the Truth...
(Excerpt) Read more at whoisyourcreator.com ...
Look, even the evos are abandoning the HMS Beagle in droves...and for good reason, the Temple of Darwin is crumbling on all sides!
Creation science discoveries that have led to any medicines, products or services? Oh wait thats right you guys don’t have any. Thanks for pointing out how bad we are doing though.
http://www.4brevard.com/choice/international-test-scores.htm
It is a test given to ALL 30 of the industrialized countries. The U.S, is ALWAYS at the bottom for YEARS.
It is because “evolution” is NOT SCIENCE.
Evolution is PROPAGANDA that bears NO EVIDENCE OF TRUTH.
Truth doesn't EVOLVE
AND CONTRADICT itself
as EVOLUTION ALWAYS DOES.
[What is more, the big bang theory can boast of no quantitative predictions that have subsequently been validated by observation. The successes claimed by the theory’s supporters consist of its ability to retrospectively fit observations with a steadily increasing array of adjustable parameters, just as the old Earth-centered cosmology of Ptolemy needed layer upon layer of epicycles.]
This is blatantly false. The Big Bang theory makes a great many predictions that are supported by Quantum ElectroDynamic theory (QED) and vice versa. QED is known by physicists to be the most successful (the most reliable and the most robust) theory in the history of science.
Whoever is writing this stuff doesn’t know the first thing about science.
LOL!
If these scientists views are being repressed, how does anyone what they are?
Did Ben Stein author this hit piece?
But now that you mention it, can you name any scientific discoveries that led to any medicines, products or services that could not have been discovered without the so-called “theory” of evolution?
Evolution tends to ignore the development of variables beyond our control. The whole of science is also based importantly on learning to take in the development of unknown factors that can occur during the scientific process.
And those predictions would be?
Let’s start with the Vaccine. Works on strains of a virus, until the virus changes magically by the will of god, then somehow the scientists pray until the truth is revealed and by divine inspiration they craft a new vaccine which works until God’s will dictates that the virus change in a totally mysterious manner that is so complicated we will never understand it and shouldn’t bother asking about.
Oh no wait excuse me too much time on these threads... in the real world scientists, real ones you know who do science in labs and not endless blog posts, actually use a knowledge of heredity natural selection and DNA/RNA to come up with the correct version of a vaccine saving millions upon millions of lives.
By the way I am well aware of the fact many scholars were, some still are, biblical creationists. Gregor Mendel was a priest! Someone’s personal views are fine as what they are, but you can’t say that those views haven’t been supplanted by more effective methods. Our military doesn’t ask the pope to bless their planes... we just use modern science to build stealthy and armored planes.
Yet those other countries also teach evolution, so that can't be it.
However, among those countries we are the only one with a large, effective religious movement in opposition to evolution. Maybe that's it.
“It is a test given to ALL 30 of the industrialized countries. The U.S, is ALWAYS at the bottom for YEARS.
It is because evolution is NOT SCIENCE.”
—Huh? Do you actually think the countries ahead of us teach *less* evolutionary theory? (That would be pretty hard to do)
Or do you think they teach something different?
Just one example of many: Big Bang theory accurately predicts the relative abundance of the elements hydrogen and helium. Evidence for this is obtained at the high energies achieved in particle accelerators such as Fermilab. I saw such experiments first hand when I took some physics classes there in the 1980’s.
Google “Quantum Electrodynamics” to find more examples.
And the best, like Newton, were able to separate their beliefs from the science. He didn't know what was causing the orbital precession of Mercury, but refused to give "God's doing it" as an explanation. He didn't know what the "action at a distance" was that he was observing, but also refused to give a supernatural explanation. It would have been interesting had he delved into the history of life on Earth.
==Oh no wait excuse me too much time on these threads... in the real world scientists, real ones you know who do science in labs and not endless blog posts, actually use a knowledge of heredity natural selection and DNA/RNA to come up with the correct version of a vaccine saving millions upon millions of lives.
You have yet to show why the “theory” of evolution is indespensable to the production of vaccines. First, it was a creation scientist, not Charles Darwin, who discovered natural selection. Heredity, as you rightly point out, was discovered by a Catholic priest who, I might add, rejected continuous evolution based on the genetic limits to variation he witnessed over and over in the lab. And let’s not forget the neo-Darwinian reductionist beads-on-a-string notion of genetics is being completely overturned by the new biology. So again, how exactly does vaccine production depend on the so-called “theory” of evolution?
don’t mention Mendel (pea pod selection and inheritance) was a monk...
pingtastic
PS Just out of curiosity, do you know which scientist the French government honoured with its highest award, the Legion of Honour, in part for his cutting edge research on vaccination—and who also happened to be a vocal opponant of Darwin’s “theory” of evolution, all the while proclaiming The more I study nature, the more I stand amazed at the work of the Creator???
The theory of evolution is a mix of the Darwinian idea of natural selection, survival of the fittest, and Mendel’s heredity, the function of passing along traits to the next generation. Combine those two ideas with the discover of DNA it shows how information on how to make the organism is stored, variations created randomly by error of copying mechanisms, the worst members do not get to reproduce while the others get to pass on their information (in the form of DNA) to the next generation. Rinse and repeat.
Using an understanding of this cycle scientist know that viral agents will change in the body and to track these changes DNA must be sequenced and analyzed and the vaccines updated and given out to people to save lives.
May I ask you to attempt to explain to me how creation science produces medicine? When you get sick do you go only to church (or mosque, you know those guys are also creationist)? Do you just pray really really hard or do you also use evolution based medicines? How do the virus mutate if not randomly? God does it? How do they select for survival of certain traits? God does that also? Do we as humans even need to learn anything or try to figure our the world or do we just wait on God to make it so?
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