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Heads Up - Multiple COLBS Warning [someone swapped out the Kenya BC AFTER it was posted]
Various ^ | August 3, 2009 | Various

Posted on 08/03/2009 2:12:53 PM PDT by Calpernia

There are now modified photos of the COLB that broke here yesterday. The changes are so slight, that no one is noticing them.

The original one posted in breaking news:

One of the modified ones:

The changes are so subtle, you can barely tell which one you are looking at.

This modified one is showing jokes like: The Font of the Certificate=Schmutz (A Schmutz is a chump, as in you are a chump) #5733=The number of the Certificate, is code for : "Problem with Windows REGISTRY", a sly reference to your claim that Obama does not appear on the Hawaii Live Birth Registry. 47O44=Easiest of all. BOH's age=47 0=O (if you look close you can tell that that is a Schmutz Font "Oh" not "Zero") EF Lavender is ORGANIC DISH SOAP

The original one does not say EF Lavender, it says KF Lavender. The original one shows the number is: 47,644.


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To: Jim Robinson
I believe Swordmaker is 100% correct. The image I saved was the one he linked to on the original page, and the distortion is as he says. Had me blurry eyed too.,p> Thank you, Jim.

Sigh.

2,161 posted on 08/05/2009 11:39:00 AM PDT by Swordmaker (remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Jim Robinson
But someone definitely did change or redirect the URL after the original was posted and added the “fake” text to the url. Don’t know what that’s all about unless the webmaster or someone at the site decided to add that himself.

Yes, I agree. Someone renamed Orly's image file to include the word "Fake." I think that may have been a political operative or, perhaps, just some tech at the hosting site who is an Obamabot.

2,162 posted on 08/05/2009 11:41:48 AM PDT by Swordmaker (remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: bgill
Poor thing. You’re never gonna live this down. Certainly not your fault but folks tend to go off on tangents and then...

I've got thick skin... I'll survive. Thanks for your concern, though.

2,163 posted on 08/05/2009 11:44:02 AM PDT by Swordmaker (remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Swordmaker
Do you honestly believe that I read your explanation for the umpteenth time and still made the remark I did?

Gomennasai sensei.

2,164 posted on 08/05/2009 11:58:50 AM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: Calpernia

See the other two threads on this.


2,165 posted on 08/05/2009 12:02:54 PM PDT by TBP
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To: Robert DeLong
Do you honestly believe that I read your explanation for the umpteenth time and still made the remark I did? Gomennasai sensei.

Sorry. I've had so many who've held on to their cherished beliefs that you got swept up with the rest.

2,166 posted on 08/05/2009 1:16:38 PM PDT by Swordmaker (remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: PoliticsAndSausages

I appreciate your honesty and some points of validity.

Very briefly, Obama convicts himself of unprecedented deceit in view of the world populus.........with a specific goal/agenda/unforthrightness going into politics.......by his personal hiring of an entourage to maintain the deceit indefinitely!

Now - I didn’t even mention a birth certificate or citizenship in the sentence above. But you see, it is his own action - or lack thereof - that created this entire birth certificate/citizenship subject matter.

Let’s make this easy: Had he never hidden any of his documents from the world....this is all then moot, isn’t it? He would never have been eligible for these offices because HE knows he was never eligible. There is no other reason to hide a lifetime’s worth of documents.
I said there is NO REASON TO EVER HIDE A LIFETIME’S WORTH OF VITAL DOCUMENTATION!
I am not fooled. And I have never been so insulted. But he knows he will stop at nothing to maintain his deceit. If a human is willing............to plan worldwide deceit, there is nothing he will not do to maintain that deceit.
It was easy for him once he reached the Senate level. He knew then, that he was a deceiver of the US public, and he thought ‘why stop here?’.

Obama, (I hate to say this....) isn’t worried in the least about ANY of the 1000’s of posts and would be detectives on this subject. He isn’t worried about Orly Taitz or Berg or Farah or the Supreme Court, is he?
The chances of absolute documentation getting proven in any court system would be a Godsend miracle. Zero has too many levels of ‘protection’ for any legitimate document to ever reach a point to prove him to be a liar on his citizenship. Too many willing Obots willing to take the risks to protect this fool when all he is doing is driving ALL of us into the ground (even his precious supporters).

We already know without dispute - that this person is deceiving us all intentionally. Again, his entire life history is hidden. Let’s back into this by assuring you of what he is NOT hiding among all he hidden documents:
He is not hiding that he was born in Hawaii since that would not be something to hide would it. Yet, he refuses to reveal the REAL Hawaiian birth cert. and has no intention of ever doing so!
He is also not hiding factual data of ever becoming a US citizen - surely this is not something to hide. Please understand that some of us DO KNOW the COLB he and his followers pass around is NOT ANY FORM of an OFFICIAL DOCUMENT. It doesn’t even have a signature on it!

So, whatever he is hiding is likely the OPPOSITE of one or both of the above - and both lead to the same conclusion.
He is not a US citizen and proving so in his own willingness to deceive us with all his hidden documents and falsified COLB data.

Here it is. If his hidden college thesis papers and others, revealed that he supports certain causes or has a racial or religious stance....there would have been NO REASON to hide ALL the other life documentation would there.
Suppose an early document proved his father is not who Barry claims he is....that alone would not be a reason to hide ALL his valid life documentation, would it.
Go down the list of ALL the documents in hiding - and describe any of them that would turn his world upside to the point that he would think he had to hide ALL his documentation in ultimate secrecy!

Ah now we’re getting close to home. It is the combined data - the COMMON data string in all his life’s documentation that paint the picture. The common piece of information on all these hidden forms that PROVE where his citizenship lies....or better yet...where it does not lie.

By default - it proves his citizenship is not in the USA.
Surely we can all see this. There is never a reason to hide your entire existence unless it ALL convicts you of one common bit of information.
That “bit” is the biggest lie the world has ever seen (exception being the devil himself).
Hiding thesis papers? Ok I’ll give you that. Hiding school grades and classes taken? I’ll give you that. Hiding childhood school information, baptism docs, numerous applications, etc. Uh oh...why?
Hiding college admittance papers? Why? Why to all combined?
It all leads to one specific detail: Citizenship.

Now, forgive my rant. It is not directed at you - PolandSaus.
It is to all who can’t see this grim situation for what it is.

Nothing will stop him short of a radical turn around in House and Senate seats, or heaven forbid - waiting until 2012 9if the voting isn’t fixed by then), or a mass of the US population physically knocking on his WH door. Hanging out in these forums will never do the job required to put pressure on the deceiver.


2,167 posted on 08/05/2009 1:20:41 PM PDT by 2Wheels
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To: Fresh Wind

Pounds/Shillings and Pence

Symbols used were:

L/S/D

The pound currency symbol is a stylized L with a bar through it.

librae = Pound
solidi = Shilling
denarii = pence/cents

7/6 = 7s 6d = 7 and 6


2,168 posted on 08/05/2009 2:15:32 PM PDT by redkite
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To: Windflier

That’s probably why the FBI is looking into her...as posted early on this thread.


2,169 posted on 08/05/2009 3:06:21 PM PDT by RatsDawg
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To: PoliticsAndSausages
For many of us, PoliticsAndSausages, citizenship has not been in question - though it would be a useful lever if any of the documents are made available to show, for example, that he registered as a foreign student at Occidental, or has an Indonesian passport. Our founders anticipated the dangers of a leader with foreign allegiances and required only of our commander in chief that he be a natural born citizen. The definition has been attacked by Obama supporters, but they can't change our history. Because Obama Senior was a British Citizen, Obama is illegitimate. That is a fact. The “natural born citizen” requirement has been challenged again and again, last in 2005 by Oren Hatch, but there have never been the votes to change it.

If the courts don't step in, the constitution is meaningless. It can be changed by obots, or by Acorn, because the people chose to be ignorant of their laws, and our representatives as well as our judicial system and military, whose sworn oaths are to protect and obey The Constitution were weak.

You may not have seen important decisions because Obama’s minions have circumvented our advise and consent protections with forty four (at last count) czars, and a few well-placed fellow travelers, such as Tim Geithner, who is the reputed author of the TARP legislation. GM, Chrysler, lots if not most banks, our energy industry, and to come, what remains of our private health care. We are in the midst of a peaceful communist takeover of our government. Passing legislation has not been necessary so far, and may not be in the future. That is the nature of pay-to-play.

I believe that was the plan. Tarp was written long before last fall, by largely government funded programs run by well organized far left nongovernmental, nonprofit groups. See money came from Soros and many others. You'll find now familiar organization names, the Pew Trust, Ford Foundation, Macarthur Foundation, which funded John Holdren and many other leftists until Theresa Kerry, using her dead husband's vast inheritance, brought him from the spawning grounds of Berkeley to Cape Cod, and the Theresa Heinz Chair at Harvard. These are old far left connections which have been planning their revolution for years. They failed with Kerry, but found a young, pigmented, completly unknown left-wing activist to defeat their handpicked choice of an opponent - McCain who, probably not coincidentally, was a sizable recipient of Soros funds.

Every one of these thousand plus page tombs which our representatives don't even pretend to read was prepared long before Obama assumed office. Our debt has quadrupled and the new administration (I know, Barney Frank is not so new) has just told foreign investors that they must obey our environmental and labor rules if they want to invest through our state-owned banks - most of them are now state-owned, whether they needed government money or not.

If Obama were provably not a citizen, that might make it easier for some to understand that he isn't a natural born citizen. Every natural born citizen is a citizen, but only a citizen born on our soil, both of whose parents were citizens is a citizen by nature, and not just by statue.

2,170 posted on 08/05/2009 3:37:56 PM PDT by Spaulding
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To: SeattleBruce
My question is, did Kenya use pences (vs. pennies) between 1922, when the Kenyan Shilling was firmly established as the currency of the 3 East African British Protectorates and 1966, when Kenya started minting and printing money?

The Currency in Kenya since 1921 has been in Shillings and CENTS. It’s never used the £ s d system. Nor the £ p one that was introduced in the UK in 1968, and formally adopted in the early 70’s. This isn’t a matter of a legacy form.

“A brief monetary history:

* Indian currency, till 1905
* British East Africa Rupee = (Indian Rupee) = 100 Cents, till 1920
* British East Africa Florin = (Rupee) = 100 Cents, 1920-1921
* British East Africa Shilling = (1/2 Florin) = 100 Cents, 1921-1966
* Kenya Shilling = (East Africa Shilling) = 100 Cents, from 1966 “

2,171 posted on 08/05/2009 4:39:08 PM PDT by Zoe Brain (Rocket Scientist, Naval Combat System Architect)
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To: Uncle Chip
In order to believe that the Kenyan document is genuine, you have to accept that:
  1. Kenya coincidentally used the same data format as adopted by all Australian states, but not Canada, New Zealand, the UK etc or any other Commonwealth country. Same data, same order of data, the works.

  2. That Kenya used a printed form with the format exactly the same as a purported South Australia birth certificate, and which differs in minor details from verified Victorian, New South Wales, and Queensland BCs,which use the same Australian standard data.

  3. That Kenya priced their BC is a foreign currency, and put the price (in Australian pounds) in exactly the same place as on the purported South Australian BC.
A price of a supposed "US" Government document marked only in pesos, rather than dollars, and with the price in exactly the same place as a purported Mexican Government document that looks identical apart from the crest, would be equally improbable.
2,172 posted on 08/05/2009 4:59:21 PM PDT by Zoe Brain (Rocket Scientist, Naval Combat System Architect)
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To: Calpernia

Hey, we have the opportunity to become experts on document analysis by staring at jpgs, coming up with theories, and attacking people who disagree.

If the actual truth of any of these docs are determined, all the fun we’re having will stop.

I’m looking through these posts, trying to determine if anyone actually found out if Bomford was found at 44B 5733.

Nah, nobody did. Just pointless BS arguing about E vs K, Republic, etc.

Fact is, you wanna know if Bomford is found at 44B - just look it up. if Bomford is found where he’s supposed to be, the Kenyan doc is 100% fake.

Whatever you do, don’t prove anything, that’ll spoil the fun.


2,173 posted on 08/05/2009 5:11:06 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: SvenMagnussen

Does that mean that Bomford is at 44B 5733 or not?


2,174 posted on 08/05/2009 5:13:31 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: Zoe Brain
The Currency in Kenya since 1921 has been in Shillings and CENTS. It’s never used the £ s d system. Nor the £ p one that was introduced in the UK in 1968, and formally adopted in the early 70’s. This isn’t a matter of a legacy form.
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Right. I've seen that history now. However, the form could be British, and the price could have come over from Britain in a bureaucratic avenue. Has anyone come up with another Kenyan BC from the period?

2,175 posted on 08/05/2009 5:15:42 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country & the Tea Party! Take America Back! (Objective media? Try BIGOTS.))
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To: SeattleBruce

I was born in the UK around that period. We emigrated to Australia later.

The UK form is completely different.

And if it was a UK form... how come it has “Kenya” etc on it? The place had had its own administration for half a century.


2,176 posted on 08/05/2009 5:37:00 PM PDT by Zoe Brain (Rocket Scientist, Naval Combat System Architect)
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To: truthfreedom

You brought up some interesting info earlier. I can’t believe people are still arguing over E versus K.

Pacer has EF. Taitz was asking about EF prior to the release..Swordmaker has resolved the issue...and still people are carrying on about the K.

I would like to see an answer to your question.


2,177 posted on 08/05/2009 6:02:59 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Swordmaker

Glad to see it’s finally sunk in for people eh? :)

Never doubted you for a second, bro.


2,178 posted on 08/05/2009 6:17:13 PM PDT by Adammon
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To: truthfreedom

Please cite where I attacked anyone.


2,179 posted on 08/05/2009 6:19:53 PM PDT by Calpernia (DefendOurFreedoms.Org)
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To: Zoe Brain

Thanks for your thoughtful post identifying important issues.

I have one question — the answer may be somewhere in the mountain of posts on this subject, so forgive me if this has already been answered. You write: “Kenya coincidentally used the same data format as adopted by all Australian states....” To include this in your list, you must presumably have reliable information about Australian forms. What’s the source of that? I didn’t know that any Australian forms had been made public except the Bomford certificate, which some Freepers contend is the forgery.

I agree with you that the discovery of an indisputably valid Australian certificate that has the same form as Taitz’s document would be fatal to Taitz’s position.


2,180 posted on 08/05/2009 6:30:13 PM PDT by Eagle Forgotten
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