Posted on 08/03/2009 2:12:53 PM PDT by Calpernia
There are now modified photos of the COLB that broke here yesterday. The changes are so slight, that no one is noticing them.
The original one posted in breaking news:
One of the modified ones:
The changes are so subtle, you can barely tell which one you are looking at.
This modified one is showing jokes like: The Font of the Certificate=Schmutz (A Schmutz is a chump, as in you are a chump) #5733=The number of the Certificate, is code for : "Problem with Windows REGISTRY", a sly reference to your claim that Obama does not appear on the Hawaii Live Birth Registry. 47O44=Easiest of all. BOH's age=47 0=O (if you look close you can tell that that is a Schmutz Font "Oh" not "Zero") EF Lavender is ORGANIC DISH SOAP
The original one does not say EF Lavender, it says KF Lavender. The original one shows the number is: 47,644.
I don’t blame them.
It’s not blurry. It’s a k
::Laughing:: And you are calling me the Machiavellian plotter?
Hello pot. My name is Kettle.
I am impressed with y’all. As much as we desperately want obama to step forward and show his true origins or what secret he has to hide, you had your reservations. You wanted to make sure it was genuine.
Now we will be blocked by the very institutions who normally tell you, yes, we have that on record and it is genuine. Of course Odinga has a stranglehold on Kenya and Obama put him there so what did we expect.
I am impressed because you do not take someone saying, this is nonsense or this has been discredited. You do your research. You look into things. You say if it is nonsense then show me your evidence that it is.
Discrediters never have anything but a agenda or talking points. They come in here and other websites and post what they have been told to post or they heard from Gibbs as he laughs because he knows they are pulling off the biggest scam ever on the American people. The BC is probably the least of our troubles.
Discrediters and name callers are cowards because they are afraid to be called a birther crazy, when in fact they are selling their souls to Obama because they have no evidence from obama, Just words. With the media in Obama’s camp, discrediters are afraid to go against what they say I struth. When reporters laugh or get angry and say do not go into the birther stuff. I realize this is a conspiracy and it is working. Obama’s people do their action wires and tell people what to say and all of sudden birthers are loons.
I have no clue where Obama was born. I want to see the BC that I had to get for my children by law. I want to see it from obama, the most powerful man in the world.
Is it a game obama is playing to make the conservatives look bad? Possibly. But to copy his bc and it is phony is still against the law.
Has everyone seen the memo from canadafreepress about Obama’s lawyer treatening the media and its reporters to not ever speak about Obama’s bc, or allow their guests to do so? If they did calls would be made and it would not be good for them. It was in 2008. They have not released the names of the person doing the threats but there are many as we can see in obama’s camp who feel threats are the norm.
I hope everyone took a look at lamecherry blog. I know some people do not like that blog but it came up on a search when I was looking around for information on the kenyan bc. Lamecherry seems to think this copy POSSIBLY is one stanley ann’s attorney ordered during the divorce and the attorneys leaked it. But that was as far as I went because you had to go and search another story on the blog to put the pieces together.
I also see O’Reilly being called out to show his BC he ordered and received on Obama and he ain’t showing. In fact O’Reilly is laughing and having a good time with a very important Constitutional issue. I guess he got the threats and memos too.
Common sense should tell everyone that the ball is in Obamas court and he has to do one simple thing, release the birth certificate. But no, we get attacked and call crazy for asking him to do what is law. Obama is above us all and that is the message he is sending.
This photograph, whether it contained an E, X, K, or the Greek Alphabet was filed in with the courts by an OFFICER of the COURT unvetted and unverified. Albeit done under the premise of asking for assistence. That is not only inproper, it is dangerous. The time for asking questions about this photo was before it was entered into record. Not during or after. We are not the only ones that have access to these filings, foreign countries do.
Senator Scoop Jackson: “American foreign policy should leave our shore with one voice.”
For you all to confirm for yourselves:
Contact either of these entities and ask: Is the word ‘Authenticated’ or ‘Certificate’ used on your birth certificate forms?
http://www.kenyarchives.go.ke/
Kenya National Archives & Documentation Service
https://www.kenyaembassy.com/docauthentication.aspx
Embassy of The Republic of Kenya
DOCUMENT AUTHENTICATION / LEGALIZATION
Obama's team sent talking points out using occam's razor last year. They would love for everyone to accept the simplest answer they give. Personally, I want evidence. Can you imagine walking into court and saying just accept what I say, you know there is that occam's razor thing.
I have no clue of this thing is genuine. I believe Orly did the right thing is asking for verification. Now even that will be stopped. Doesn't it make you wonder if it is so easy to discredit that obama's people do not step forward?
Now we have it on congressional record when Reid said the the kenyan bc is not worth talking about but yet, it is as valid as the one Obama placed online. Now, if they vetted obama correctly, why don't they show their evidence they vetted him with?
It could have been done on purpose to humiliate Orly or birthers. Remember when the internet was abuzz because it was said obama switched out the original one he placed online? Then some said it was switched again.
My God! You say that with such authority! Wow! But you don't know that.
The certificate with the k was the first draft to the one that got filed in PACER.
No, it was not, no matter how much you want to believe it was. You've made the assertion that your hypothesis that "someone" exchanged, switched, images IS already proved fact.
PROVE THAT "THE CERTIFICATE WITH A K" WAS A FIRST DRAFT OF AN INTENTIONAL FORGERY! PROVE THAT ONE WITH A "K" EVER EVEN EXISTED!
Unless you can prove your bald assertion, all you are doing is muddying the waters, and playing into the hands of those who want to discredit Conservatives who are hoping to defend the Constitution!
I tell you, that as the inadvertent creator of the image with the illusory "K" and "6" that you claim to see, that your hypothesis has been falsified.
If you think I am being deliberately insulting in this post, you are right, I am. I am trying to get your attention! I've already tried the "being reasonable and truthful" way and have failed to pierce your armor of true believing righteousness.
I cannot believe you are such an (insert suitable pejorative here) as to continue to deny the plain truth when the person responsible stands up, explains it, shows you examples from the original images of what happened, and you STILL want to see cockroaches in the woodwork!
I can prove my claims and explanations and have... I made the damn thing! I admit it!
Sheesh. Were you on the OJ jury?
Here, once again, are the magnified (700%) exemples of both the JPEG and PNG images of the "E.F. Lavender" entry, both taken of the SAME IMAGE!
The JPEG on the Left now, after compression, shows a blurry "K", the original PNG on the Right shows the original, blurry "E".
Your seeing conspirators under every rock, or blurry image, is making Freepers and FreeRepublic look bad. If we make a mistake, we admit it and move on. That's what Conservative adults do. We are trying to find the truth. Only Liberal non-adults keep harping on issues that have been debunked like "Bush lied, people died" after the claim "he lied" had been disproved multiple ways. You are arguing like a Liberal: "Don't bother me with the facts, this is what I want people to believe, so that is what I am going to say. Nyah, Nyah, Nyah!"
This NEEDS TO STOP! This junk conspiracy is being picked up by other bloggers and may make it into the MSM... where we do not need to look like conspiracy nuts. If there is a conspiracy, it emanates from the Zero now sitting in the White House.
Yes, the "Kenyan Birth Certificate" MAY indeed be a forgery, a hoax. But we are not going to prove it by raising red herrings about a "switching the documents" conspiracy. Whether this BC proxy is a forgery or not cannot be determined by making up claims of "K trial versions" and "E final versions" as evidence when it has been explained.
Mea Culpa.
And Elvis is still alive.
I see what I see. It has nothing to do with distortion
That is not what this says:
I wrote:
The certificate with the k was the first draft to the one that got filed in PACER.
Your incorrect response was:
No, it was not, no matter how much you want to believe it was. You’ve made the assertion that your hypothesis that “someone” exchanged, switched, images IS already proved fact.
It looks exactly like the 1945 typewriter print that was on my 1945 “certified copy of birth record” from Missouri.
Sword - My comments which you responded to was an excerpt from the link I included in my post. Go to the link and take it up with them.
I believe Swordmaker is 100% correct. The image I saved was the one he linked to on the original page, and the distortion is as he says. Had me blurry eyed too.
But someone definitely did change or redirect the URL after the original was posted and added the “fake” text to the url. Don’t know what that’s all about unless the webmaster or someone at the site decided to add that himself.
The whole "he is not a US citizen" assumption strikes me as just as improbable as the assumption that the previous administration made the towers fall because they were EVIL - something like that would be impossible to keep a secret due to the number of people involved, and I just honestly doubt it would happen unless the conspirators were absolute idiots.
I don't want to question that you have a right to a proof he's a citizen - I just doubt that this line of reasoning will help the conservative agenda in the USA in any way, because as it is the case with conspiracy theories, they consist of about 50% rational people and 50%...how to put it...radical constructivists who see everything as proof for their line of reasoning and nothing as proof against it.
Thank you. This is pretty much what I said yesterday. We do ourselves a greater disservice in pursuing a red herring, which has only served to cast suspicion on the original document itself. It may very well be authentic, yet all this suspicion and hysteria over “k” vs. “R” has instead created the impression that the whole thing is invalid.
Congratulations to everyone who decided we needed to shoot this horse before verifying whether or not the leg was really broken in the first place. Instead, the mere notion that the original document is authentic has almost gone completely out the window.
Poor thing. You’re never gonna live this down. Certainly not your fault but folks tend to go off on tangents and then...
"Among the criticisms, and the responses linked on the Taitz site:
"Criticism: The number 44-O-47 is coincidental as President Obama is the 44th president, and was 47 years old. Response: The number is 44,047, with a "zero," not an "O."
"Criticism: The name E.F. (Earth Friendly) Lavender is a soap. Response: Also the name of a plant. Lavendar also is a SURNAME!"
Thus according to WND, and their reading of Orly's site, the correct name and number is E.F. Lavendar and 47,044.
er correct that: 44,047
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