Posted on 07/18/2009 11:30:17 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
Edited on 07/18/2009 11:48:33 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
* * R O U G H * * D R A F T * *
(continuing my remarks from prior thread)
Here is our recourse as declared by our Founding Fathers:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."
It cannot be denied that the central government has become destructive of our unalienable rights to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness and our rights to live free. The government is no longer responsive to we the People. They have stretched and shredded the constitution to the point that they have illegally seized for themselves virtually unlimited powers over the citizens and act as if we have no rights and no powers of our own. They are acting without our consent.
Our Founders established that when our government becomes destructive of our rights then it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
We have reached the point where the government's long train of abuses and usurpations has achieved absolute Despotism, therefore it is our right, it is our duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for our future security.
Therefore, We the People of America choose to exercise our right to throw off and alter the abusive government by peacefully recalling and removing from office the President of the United States, the Vice President of the United States and all U.S. Senators and U.S. Representatives effective immediately.
An interim provisional Chief Executive and congressional representatives will be established as follows:
The Secretary of State shall immediately assume the office of interim Chief Executive. The Chief Executive shall appoint and the interim Senate shall confirm an interim Vice President.
An immediate election shall be held within each state legislature to appoint two interim senators to represent each sovereign state.
A special election shall be held by all states within 30 days to elect interim members of the House of Representatives.
Elections for regular government offices shall be conducted in November, 2010 as previously scheduled, except that elections will be held for all elective offices, including President, Vice President and all U.S. Representatives. U.S. Senators will be elected per class schedule by the various state legislatures.
We alter the government to provide new Guards for our future security as follows:
The Constitution of the United States must be kept intact and must be adhered to and strictly followed by all government entities as originally intended. The government has stretched the constitutional limits well beyond those intended by our founders. We must take steps to ensure that this is corrected and that the out of control government is reined in and that sufficient measures are introduced to maintain the limits, checks and balances on government and that government powers are strictly limited to those enumerated in the constitution and that our rights are reestablished, reaffirmed, re-secured and safeguarded. We must restore and reestablish the sovereignty of the people and the states and restore the constitutional balances between the central government, the various states and we the people. The constitution severely restricts government powers and guarantees unalienable freedom and Liberty to the people.
As we restore constitutionally limited government several wrongs must be righted:
The central government has illegally expanded its powers. They've done this by ignoring or stretching their constitutional limits. They have usurped powers limited to the states and the people. We must reestablish and reaffirm the enumerated powers and limit the central government strictly to just those powers. They've built huge power bases by allowing senators and representatives to be full time professional career positions. We eliminate this by establishing strict qualifications for office and term limits.
We must reestablish and reaffirm the powers to the states and the people as defined by the 9th and 10th amendments.
The central government has denied the states their constitutionally guaranteed republican form of government by introducing the 17th amendment which alters the way the senators which were to represent the sovereign interests of the various states to the central government. We must reestablish that representation by repealing the 17th amendment and allowing the state legislatures of the various states to elect their own senators as intended by our founders. This was never intended to be a function of the people. We the People are represented to the central government by our elected representatives in the House of Representatives. The sovereign states were to be represented by the state's senators to keep central powers and encroachment in check. Power is from the people to the states, and from the states to the central government. They've turned this upside down and inside out. We must correct it.
We hereby repeal the 17th amendment.
The central government has expanded well beyond the limits established for it by the founders and pay for that expansion by directly taxing the people and severely restricting our rights through an enslaving income tax.
We hereby repeal the 16th amendment.
The IRS and all sub departments and agencies are hereby dissolved, disbanded and closed.
The newly elected congress will establish rules and schedules for assessing and collecting fees, tariffs and excise taxes to support the armed forces and all constitutionally authorized departments of The United States Government per the Constitution of the United States (see schedule).
The central government is hereby stripped of all illegal powers and all departments and agencies not authorized by the constitution are hereby dissolved and disbanded. Their current budgets are hereby withdrawn. All disbanded department funds and liquid assets are to be immediately returned to the US Treasury. A list and methods for achieving this is provided in schedule xxx.
Ownership and responsibility for all federally held buildings, lands, parks, waterways, oceans, seas, etc, other than those in Washington, D.C. or military bases, forts, reservations, or local federal buildings owned by valid constitutional federal departments (see schedule) are hereby transferred to the sovereign state governments within which they reside or are located.
Responsibility for all natural resources found within any of the various states or within lands, oceans, lakes, rivers, waterways, seas out through our international boundary limits are hereby returned to the various states. All laws for mining, drilling, logging, or otherwise capitalizing on any minerals or natural resources are to be determined by the various states within which said resources are found.
The social security system is hereby dissolved, disbanded and closed. All social security funds being held by the federal government are to be returned to the private retirement accounts of the individuals owning them. A special fund will be establish for all current recipients and new recipients according to schedule xxy and the social security system shall be phased out accordingly. The funds to support current social security benefits shall become the responsibility of the states within which the recipients reside.
No revenues accruing to the federal government shall be disbursed to any state, city or local government for any reason whatsoever. Or used to subsidize or benefit any government or private entity, organization or person, other than those explicitly authorized and enumerated in the constitution.
All states are hereby solely responsible for any and all revenues or funds required to operate their sovereign states. The central government is not obligated to and shall not interfere in state government or local affairs.
The interstate commerce clause shall be applied strictly to regulating interstate commerce as originally established and intended by our founders. No stretches or reinterpretations of any kind shall be allowed.
Our first unalienable right is the right to life. Protecting Life and Liberty shall be of paramount importance to our central government. Roe v Wade and all congressional acts, regulations, court opinions allowing legalized abortion or the taking of innocent human life are hereby rescinded, overruled, repealed, nullified and voided. Life is fully protected by the U.S. Government.
The Federal Reserve.
Border security.
Medicare.
FAA, FDA, FCC, various federal ABC departments agencies and agencies. Which to close, which to remake with constitutional limits and authority, etc.
Federal Pensions.
Etc, etc, etc.
Need lots of help with this document, folks. Please chime in. Would love to see a committee formed of members of every state to complete and finalize it. Then we should form and send delegates to a special national congress to work out the kinks and plan its presentation and execution.
This concept is an entirely peaceful altering of our despotic government per our unalienable right and duty. No where do I call for violence. The only force I call for is the force of numbers. We need millions of our citizens to sign on to this petition and execute its provisions. Will require millions to march on D.C. to block the government's ability to do business as usual. This is our right and duty as Americans.
I’m going to take your earlier advice and return to this thread when I’m more calm.
FCC should be closed and all frequencies will fall under the same laws that govern land and land use. Governments can eminent domain frequencies for government use (Fire, police, military). Courts shall decide if broadcasters are “trespassing” upon frequency ownerships. They shall be bought and sold and treated as land.
This would negate licensing crap that could/would squelch free speech.
Would also suggest the first amendment be amended to include freedom of broadcast media, the internet, and all future forms of communication.
The first amendment of the constitution allows freedom of speech to redress government transgressions. Visiting Washington in great numbers falls within the constitution's enumeration of God-given rights.
If we truly revere the Constitution then we must must abide by its system of elections. If Obama were to declare himself dictator and not allow elections (or something of that nature) than we could Constitutionally resort to mobs and force but at the moment to do so would be to make ourselves the destroyers of the Constitution.
I wholeheartedly disagree. Obama has alerady effectively declared himself dictator, with aid of a leftist media, house, Senate, and court system. The constitution is being shredded before our very eyes. If we don't act now with a show of force (vocal force, not a shootout), he will continue unencumbered. If we do act in force, he may still act against the constitution and the will of the people as he has done, but we will have exhausted our rights under the first amendment and can constitutionally move on.
Absolutely.
Know this: the most embarrassing, stupid, unwise and unwarranted of the 10,000 posts made in a week WILL become a headline at MSNBC/MediaMatters/dKOS or where-ever, to tell the Obama koolaid drinkers how dangerous and extreme Freepers are. So a note to all: Dont let it be your post.
"NO MORE THAN EVER WE NEED TO UNITE."
Yup. United we stand, divided we fall. All the more reason to have a focus on our key points of agreement and stand our ground there in ways that cant get misconstrued by the left.
Not only has it not been exercised but the SC itself has enjoined in the Constitutional go around.
I would favor a massive peacefull march in DC to urge our Representatives to oppose Obama’s socialist agenda. What I oppose is any violence or any idea of trying to use this march to undo the last election through the implied threat of force.
The first amendment of the constitution allows freedom of speech to redress government transgressions. Visiting Washington in great numbers falls within the constitution's enumeration of God-given rights.
Nobody has a problem with the March itself, its the specific extra-Constitutional actions advocated that are being criticized. let me repeat #661:
Absolutely NOBODY here has a problem with that. Absolutely NOBODY here has a problem calling out the socialist scum-bucket politicians who have passed bailouts and budgets that are bankrupting us and are voting to destroy our freedoms with ObamaCare and cap-n-trade etc. Absolutely NOBODY here has a problem with finding ways to bounce their worthless butts out of office ... in the next election.
The SPECIFIC issue and concern was/is the impatient call to somehow overturn the results of the last election with some direct action, in a way that contravenes the laws and Constitution we patriots revere. It’s a contradiction. It’s also a pipedream and a dangerous one at that and has ALREADY been used by others to cast Freepers as wackos.
There have been hundreds of Tea Party type protests across the nation. They have been peaceful and stunningly patriotic and in the best spirit of America. I hope and pray the 9/12 march is as well, and does the conservative and liberty movement proud.
Thanks stockpirate.
YOU ARE SO RIGHT, JIMROB! WE NEED EVERYONE WHO CAN POSSIBLY MAKE IT, TO COME TO WASHINGTON, DC FROM 9/11-9/13!
I have read so many posts on this thread from Freepers who have NOT booked a room at the Sheraton, and have NOT purchased a Freeper Convention ticket, but they said they are coming to the 9/12 March on DC.
Here's hoping those FReepers mean what they say and say what they mean! If so, we will see more room bookings and more ticket sales and even more FReepers at our National Tea Party Convention!
I hope it doesn't turn out that lots of Freepers are all talk and no action!
A PEACEFUL 9/12 TEA PARTY MARCH ON DC IS WHAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE! OUR VOICES WILL BE HEARD AND WE WILL SERVE NOTICE ON ALL IN THE GOVERNMENT THAT WE WILL DEFEND OUR CONSTITUTION!
Don’t panic.
Organize. Demonstrate. Be smart. Be responsible. Do not panic.
We shall overcome . . .
The interim Chief Executive should be someone extremely sensitive to the moral principles of liberty, able to put all personal ambition aside.
Sounds good! (calling my fairy god mother right now to discuss this)
My 9 yo granddaughter will be in DC with me.
I’m anticipating a peaceful protest but with enough voices shouting “ENOUGH”, that we cannot be ignored.
See everyone (all 5 million of you) in DC on 9/12.
We Freepers are God loving, country loving, family loving and law-biding patriots! And above all we are strong and peaceful!
We will defend our Constitution and have a good time too!
I don't know what post you read, but Jim Rob's didn't advocate any sort of "fantasy".
I really pity you for being so cowed that you can't even confront standing with fellow patriots in peaceful assembly, to demand that our government be restored to its proper constitutional form.
You've obviously not been watching the breakneck speed with which the congressional Democrats and Obama have been transforming this nation into a totalitarian Marxist state, if you believe that we have time to build grassroots coalitions at the local electoral level.
The Titanic is sinking, and you want to form a committee to discuss who should represent us at the planning session for the next disaster preparedness exercise.
McVeigh wasn’t millions of angry people waving signs and protesting peacefully.
Apples and oranges...
Well, of course, technically, they ARE acting with our consent.
The problem is, if I may draw an analogy, it's sort of like when one goes to a restaurant and hands the car keys to an attendant to park ones car.
When you hand the keys over you have given "consent" -- and TRUST -- to the attendant to park your car: not go for a joy ride all over the city and use your gas to do it!
So we need to find responsible and TRUSTWORTHY government servants to empower: through the election process.(brings up the philosopher, Diogenes, searching for an honest man)
Now, in lieu of finding AND electing such trustworthy individuals, what recourse do the people have but to remove the bums and "elect" themselves? -- if you know what I mean!
Of course, the above action even if "successful" can easily -- as history has often shown -- lead to societal chaos, followed by a worse dictatorship than the one that the people were originally facing.
Therefore, such recourse should ONLY be taken after exhausting all other PEACEFUL avenues of redress.
Having said that, I'm not sure Jim's Premises are wrong... it's just a mater of at what point do 'the people' throw the switch.
In the mean time the case for real change in government needs to be articulated to the American people.
A mass -- PEACEFUL -- rally, may be just the thing to illustrate just how many Americans share vital constitutional concerns about our present leadership.
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