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If we could get millions of Americans to march on Washington, what would we do?
Prior thread ^ | July 18, 2009 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 07/18/2009 11:30:17 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

Edited on 07/18/2009 11:48:33 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

* * R O U G H * * D R A F T * *

(continuing my remarks from prior thread)

Here is our recourse as declared by our Founding Fathers:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

It cannot be denied that the central government has become destructive of our unalienable rights to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness and our rights to live free. The government is no longer responsive to we the People. They have stretched and shredded the constitution to the point that they have illegally seized for themselves virtually unlimited powers over the citizens and act as if we have no rights and no powers of our own. They are acting without our consent.

Our Founders established that when our government becomes destructive of our rights then it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

We have reached the point where the government's long train of abuses and usurpations has achieved absolute Despotism, therefore it is our right, it is our duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for our future security.

Therefore, We the People of America choose to exercise our right to throw off and alter the abusive government by peacefully recalling and removing from office the President of the United States, the Vice President of the United States and all U.S. Senators and U.S. Representatives effective immediately.

An interim provisional Chief Executive and congressional representatives will be established as follows:

The Secretary of State shall immediately assume the office of interim Chief Executive. The Chief Executive shall appoint and the interim Senate shall confirm an interim Vice President.

An immediate election shall be held within each state legislature to appoint two interim senators to represent each sovereign state.

A special election shall be held by all states within 30 days to elect interim members of the House of Representatives.

Elections for regular government offices shall be conducted in November, 2010 as previously scheduled, except that elections will be held for all elective offices, including President, Vice President and all U.S. Representatives. U.S. Senators will be elected per class schedule by the various state legislatures.

We alter the government to provide new Guards for our future security as follows:

The Constitution of the United States must be kept intact and must be adhered to and strictly followed by all government entities as originally intended. The government has stretched the constitutional limits well beyond those intended by our founders. We must take steps to ensure that this is corrected and that the out of control government is reined in and that sufficient measures are introduced to maintain the limits, checks and balances on government and that government powers are strictly limited to those enumerated in the constitution and that our rights are reestablished, reaffirmed, re-secured and safeguarded. We must restore and reestablish the sovereignty of the people and the states and restore the constitutional balances between the central government, the various states and we the people. The constitution severely restricts government powers and guarantees unalienable freedom and Liberty to the people.

As we restore constitutionally limited government several wrongs must be righted:

The central government has illegally expanded its powers. They've done this by ignoring or stretching their constitutional limits. They have usurped powers limited to the states and the people. We must reestablish and reaffirm the enumerated powers and limit the central government strictly to just those powers. They've built huge power bases by allowing senators and representatives to be full time professional career positions. We eliminate this by establishing strict qualifications for office and term limits.

We must reestablish and reaffirm the powers to the states and the people as defined by the 9th and 10th amendments.

The central government has denied the states their constitutionally guaranteed republican form of government by introducing the 17th amendment which alters the way the senators which were to represent the sovereign interests of the various states to the central government. We must reestablish that representation by repealing the 17th amendment and allowing the state legislatures of the various states to elect their own senators as intended by our founders. This was never intended to be a function of the people. We the People are represented to the central government by our elected representatives in the House of Representatives. The sovereign states were to be represented by the state's senators to keep central powers and encroachment in check. Power is from the people to the states, and from the states to the central government. They've turned this upside down and inside out. We must correct it.

We hereby repeal the 17th amendment.

The central government has expanded well beyond the limits established for it by the founders and pay for that expansion by directly taxing the people and severely restricting our rights through an enslaving income tax.

We hereby repeal the 16th amendment.

The IRS and all sub departments and agencies are hereby dissolved, disbanded and closed.

The newly elected congress will establish rules and schedules for assessing and collecting fees, tariffs and excise taxes to support the armed forces and all constitutionally authorized departments of The United States Government per the Constitution of the United States (see schedule).

The central government is hereby stripped of all illegal powers and all departments and agencies not authorized by the constitution are hereby dissolved and disbanded. Their current budgets are hereby withdrawn. All disbanded department funds and liquid assets are to be immediately returned to the US Treasury. A list and methods for achieving this is provided in schedule xxx.

Ownership and responsibility for all federally held buildings, lands, parks, waterways, oceans, seas, etc, other than those in Washington, D.C. or military bases, forts, reservations, or local federal buildings owned by valid constitutional federal departments (see schedule) are hereby transferred to the sovereign state governments within which they reside or are located.

Responsibility for all natural resources found within any of the various states or within lands, oceans, lakes, rivers, waterways, seas out through our international boundary limits are hereby returned to the various states. All laws for mining, drilling, logging, or otherwise capitalizing on any minerals or natural resources are to be determined by the various states within which said resources are found.

The social security system is hereby dissolved, disbanded and closed. All social security funds being held by the federal government are to be returned to the private retirement accounts of the individuals owning them. A special fund will be establish for all current recipients and new recipients according to schedule xxy and the social security system shall be phased out accordingly. The funds to support current social security benefits shall become the responsibility of the states within which the recipients reside.

No revenues accruing to the federal government shall be disbursed to any state, city or local government for any reason whatsoever. Or used to subsidize or benefit any government or private entity, organization or person, other than those explicitly authorized and enumerated in the constitution.

All states are hereby solely responsible for any and all revenues or funds required to operate their sovereign states. The central government is not obligated to and shall not interfere in state government or local affairs.

The interstate commerce clause shall be applied strictly to regulating interstate commerce as originally established and intended by our founders. No stretches or reinterpretations of any kind shall be allowed.

Our first unalienable right is the right to life. Protecting Life and Liberty shall be of paramount importance to our central government. Roe v Wade and all congressional acts, regulations, court opinions allowing legalized abortion or the taking of innocent human life are hereby rescinded, overruled, repealed, nullified and voided. Life is fully protected by the U.S. Government.

The Federal Reserve.

Border security.

Medicare.

FAA, FDA, FCC, various federal ABC departments agencies and agencies. Which to close, which to remake with constitutional limits and authority, etc.

Federal Pensions.

Etc, etc, etc.

Need lots of help with this document, folks. Please chime in. Would love to see a committee formed of members of every state to complete and finalize it. Then we should form and send delegates to a special national congress to work out the kinks and plan its presentation and execution.

This concept is an entirely peaceful altering of our despotic government per our unalienable right and duty. No where do I call for violence. The only force I call for is the force of numbers. We need millions of our citizens to sign on to this petition and execute its provisions. Will require millions to march on D.C. to block the government's ability to do business as usual. This is our right and duty as Americans.


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To: KTM rider

Leave the Military out of it. Do not put them in that position.


401 posted on 07/18/2009 8:36:52 PM PDT by SERE_DOC (My Rice Krispies told me to stay home & clean my weapons! How does one clean a phase 4 plasma rifle)
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To: wastedyears
How will we know those organizations aren’t penetrated by the FBI, state and city police organizations?

These organizations would most certainly be infiltrated by these organizations. And what they would find is people legally preparing in a very militant fashion - while hearing messages of solidarity with all our rank-and-file military and law enforcement.

However, they would also find an organization that could be activated at a moment's notice.

Recall the German "hunting clubs" that formed immediately prior to WWII.

402 posted on 07/18/2009 8:40:15 PM PDT by The Duke ("Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Democrat Party?")
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To: Sig Sauer P220
Even better. We can set up waves of patriots to make sure the bad guys don't get back INTO town.

Hey, I think I'm seeing "officer material" here! :)

403 posted on 07/18/2009 8:41:28 PM PDT by The Duke ("Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Democrat Party?")
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To: Jim Robinson
I have seen a lot of posts on here about entering Washington,DC armed. It is still illegal there you know.

Let me explain from personal experience something that all need to keep in mind.

There is a very good reason that Washington has never been made a state. I has nothing to do with politics. There is something called the Military District Of Washington. Not being a state that pesky little law that says the military cannot be deployed for domestic actions doesn't apply there.

I was at the Marine Barracks in Washington in the early 1960's. We and the other military units stationed in and around there were deployed several times to confront the general population.

I personally have stood in a wall of Marines with fixed bayonets pointed directly at the chests of people on the streets of Washington, DC. Our orders were that no one, absolutely no one would be allowed to cross our line. The orders were lawful and you better believe that no one did. In one instance a guy with a badge on his jacket walked directly up to the tip of the bayonet of the guy to my right, pulled his badge forward and said, "Press, Press". He got himself poked in the chest with a bayonet and had some size 12 Marine Corps dress shoes with cleats on them raked down one of his shins. He backed off rather quickly.

Also don't forget when Roosevelt sent the Army into a tent camp of WW 1 military veterans that were camped in Washington to protest the cutting of their benefits. In that case rifles and machine guns were fired at the veterans and quite a few were killed or wounded.

I just want y'all to think for a minute or two about what you are saying. The Messiah would not hesitate for one second to deploy the military to remove any threat to his kingdom.

404 posted on 07/18/2009 8:46:52 PM PDT by Flint
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To: Flint

No we’re not going to go armed. That’d be nutz.


405 posted on 07/18/2009 8:48:05 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jimrobfr)
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To: P-Marlowe

I think we should all bring our tennis rackets. :-)


406 posted on 07/18/2009 9:00:49 PM PDT by stockpirate (The movement to take back America has already started, Sarah is her name.)
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To: Califreak
"Now the DUmpsters think FR should be banned as a hate site:"

Dang that inconvenient free speech thingy in that constitution

407 posted on 07/18/2009 9:00:54 PM PDT by SERE_DOC (My Rice Krispies told me to stay home & clean my weapons! How does one clean a phase 4 plasma rifle)
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To: Jim Robinson

“The interstate commerce clause shall be applied strictly to regulating interstate commerce as originally established and intended by our founders. No stretches or reinterpretations of any kind shall be allowed.”

I’ve thought for a considerable time on this one Jim. I believe we need to alter the wording, and thus the clause to ensure the power of the Fed is never abused again as it has been with the word, and act of “regulating”.

Interstate commerce is something that occurs between States, or several States, and if there are problems the States cannot handle for whatever reason, or find too difficult to handle then the Federal Government upon request by the States could mediate the dilemma.

Wording has to be extremely careful as the Left are incredibly astute at parsing.


408 posted on 07/18/2009 9:01:48 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...Call 'em What you Will, They ALL have Fairies Living In Their Trees.)
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To: rockinqsranch

I think we need to get Obama’s present policies out of the way 1st. Cap and Trade , Health Care . I wouldn’t go down there protesting abortion laws and such . We need to stay focused on the immediate legislation that will destroy us. I’m surprised Obama didn’t pass the Fairness Doctrine 1st so that we wouldn’t have any real access to the truth concerning his other bills.He screwed up there .


409 posted on 07/18/2009 9:07:23 PM PDT by sonic109
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To: Jim Robinson

Sir, there is a reason that you are the founder and captain of this magnificent meeting place, and for what it’s worth, you have just shown that with flying colors.

Your post is without a doubt, the most uplifting and hope inspiring thing I have ever read on this site. Your proclamation and the proscriptions for addressing the wrongs inflicted on our beloved country will resonate strongly in the hearts and minds of every clear-thinking American who reads them.

I intend to help start that resonance by sending a copy of your post (with link) to every person in my address book.

I fully and unequivocally support everything you said in your post, and will do everything in my power to assist you in the endeavor to restore our constitutional republic.

Thank you.


410 posted on 07/18/2009 9:10:30 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: LucyT; null and void; Beckwith; stockpirate; PhilDragoo; Candor7; MeekOneGOP; Myrddin; ...
Fill the galleries in the Senate and the House, well as in their committee rooms, and and long the outside perimeter, we will walk and chant and force the media to cover it all.

We need to be there whenever any Nationalisitic and Socialistic Bill hits the hopper, we need to be ready to confront the members of Congress by filling their chambers, by filling the Floor in session, by testing them to see how many actually read the whole Bill on which they plan to vote.

We need to ask them why have they turned their backs on their citizens and their employers? Why are they making goverment so intrusive in our lives. Why are We the People going to have this heath bill shoved down our throats, while our public servants get to refuse it without penalty, have Socialized health care at thee expense of others.

What about the Elderly having end-of-life counseling every five years and being denied life-saving treatment .For all of our working lives we've had to pay a Medicare tax where that money was to go into Medicare. Now, the government is going to steal all of your hard-earned money you’ve put intended for our care when we reach the billions into Medicare payments a Lifetime of a good chunk of their medicare/SS monies withoutforceed upon them, service are they saying NO to getting the Goverment’s DeathCare while getting to choose the best insurance policy that money can buy. The lawmakers in DC don't want the same rationed care as We the People are going to get.

We must be considered. We need to be wherever hearings on Universal Health Care, or Cap & Tax, or any number of other Draconian measures.

411 posted on 07/18/2009 9:12:32 PM PDT by Polarik (Obama: When destroying America is not enough.)
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To: Jim Robinson
I sent a copy of Jim's letter to one of NC's Senators. Sen. Kay Hagen. I got this response back:

Dear Friend, I wanted to take a moment to thank you for contacting me to share your thoughts and opinions. Since taking office, I have received an overwhelming number of calls and emails from North Carolinians like you who are ready to take an active part in our government. I appreciate each and every call and email. With our country facing some of its toughest challenges in a generation, your phone calls and messages are an important factor guiding my work here in Washington. Please be assured that we will get back to you as soon as possible regarding your specific concern.

Wait till Monday rolls around and some staffer actually reads it.

412 posted on 07/18/2009 9:19:59 PM PDT by Flint
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To: Jim Robinson
We also need to do an ACORN and fill the halls inside with Freedom Activists and encircle their houses with Freedom Activists on the outside.

I want us to sandwich the state-run media with activists and make them broadcast your story, for as long as they can. find another Joe the Plumber type. A man of the masses, Mself made man thanks to free markets and capitalism

We need to expose all of the LEFT’s dirty tricks.

413 posted on 07/18/2009 9:21:13 PM PDT by Polarik (Obama: When destroying America is not enough.)
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To: Polarik

You can’t “fill the halls”. They won’t let you in. Remember the security that is there?


414 posted on 07/18/2009 9:21:47 PM PDT by Flint
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To: sonic109

“I think we need to get Obama’s present policies out of the way 1st.”

I think we need to get Obama out of the way 1st.


415 posted on 07/18/2009 9:24:46 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...Call 'em What you Will, They ALL have Fairies Living In Their Trees.)
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Bookmark.


416 posted on 07/18/2009 9:28:22 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (John Galt was exiled.)
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To: rockinqsranch; sonic109

“I think we need to get Obama out of the way 1st.”

To clarify: A reference to impeachment.


417 posted on 07/18/2009 9:28:46 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...Call 'em What you Will, They ALL have Fairies Living In Their Trees.)
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To: SERE_DOC
...an American party

That concept has been simmering in my mind for a number of years now.

I'm sick and tired of partisan politics. The political parties as we know them are nowhere to be found in our founding documents, but have grown into beasts that have usurped the citizen government crafted by the Founders to ensure our freedoms.

I have allegiance to my country, our Constitution, and our original form of representative, republican government, but not so much to any political party.

The major parties have done more to divide Americans than anything else, in my view, and that is destructive to the republic.

The American Party? I'm all for it.

418 posted on 07/18/2009 9:30:52 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: LucyT

What would “they” do? (trying to think ahead and I have no idea what they’d do)


419 posted on 07/18/2009 9:37:41 PM PDT by azishot (Please join the NRA.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Cool, now when he’s POTUS he owes me one. I’ll tell him I want 800 F-22’s.


420 posted on 07/18/2009 9:50:20 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (We're definitely in the Rise of the Empire era, but is Obama Valorum or Palpatine?)
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