Posted on 06/30/2009 9:32:47 AM PDT by wbones8765
What might the phrase “natural-born citizen” of the United States imply under the U.S. Constitution? The phrase has always been obscure due to the lack of any single authoritative source to confer in order to understand the condition of citizenship the phrase recognizes. Learning what the phrase might have meant following the Declaration of Independence, and the adoption of the Fourteenth Amendment, requires detective work. As with all detective work, eliminating the usual suspects from the beginning goes a long way in quickly solving a case.
What Natural-Born Citizen Could Not Mean
Could a natural-born citizen simply mean citizenship due to place of birth?
Unlikely in the strict sense because we know one can be native born and yet not a native born citizen of this country prior to the year 1866. There were even disputes whether anyone born within the District of Columbia or in the territories were born citizens of the United States (they were generally referred to as “inhabitants” instead.) National Government could make no “territorial allegiance” demands within the several States because as Madison explained it, the “powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State.”
Jurisdiction over citizenship via birth within the several States was part of the “ordinary course of affairs” of the States that only local laws could affect. Early acts of Naturalization recognized the individual State Legislatures as the only authority who could make anyone a citizen of a State. Framer James Wilson said, “a citizen of the United States is he, who is a citizen of at least some one state in the Union.”
(Excerpt) Read more at federalistblog.us ...
They are very, very, very confused...and stupid, too.
Just proves that Congress does not bother to brush up on the Constitution. Now, given “how much time” (*sarcasm*) they spend reading the bills that they sign, are we at all surprised?
No, but we should be outraged just the same, and make that affrontery front and center at Saturday’s TEA parties.
That your mother was naturalized is immaterial — she was/is a citizen.
From everything that I have read Stanley and BHO Sr were married for three years and divorced in 1964
We be nearing mandatory decision time.
Who does not recognize our nation is careening wildly to the left?
Who thinks the folks who devised the anti-capitalist, socialist elements of the Cap and Trade legislation are going anywhere soon?
Is it clear that with the appointment to the USSC of one more liberal (after Sotomayor or her stand-in) that each branch of government will be controlled by liberals?
How do we obtain leverage in the political arena and gain time to focus on upcoming elections?
Here is the text of an online petition that should be available in about 24 hours at http://www.gopetition.com/online/29053.html
It is long and it will be boring to those who are already aware of the facts, but it may be an important first read when brought to the attention of Congress.
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1ST AMENDMENT PETITION seeking the REDRESS OF GRIEVANCES
WHEREAS, Article II of the United States Constitution requires the President to be a natural born citizen;
WHEREAS, at the time of President Obama’s birth his father was not a United States citizen and his mother was a United States citizen under 19 years of age;
WHEREAS, the relevant statute in effect throughout 1961 would not allow United States citizenship at birth to an infant born abroad with such parentage;
WHEREAS, pursuant to the statute and the Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution, the location of President Obama’s birth is a critical element in the determination of whether he is a natural born citizen;
WHEREAS, President Obama recently represented in the case of Hollister v Soetero that he publicly provided to several internet websites a certified copy of his purported birth certificate which purportedly shows a birth in Hawaii;
WHEREAS, the document made public is a Certification of Live Birth (COLB) not an Hawaii birth Certificate; significantly, Hawaii emphasizes its COLB is not conclusive evidence of a birth in Hawaii;
WHEREAS, candidate Obama expended substantial effort and legal expense to defend multiple lawsuits, in an attempt to avoid providing the Certificate of Live Birth underlying the COLB;
WHEREAS, document examiners have identified several unmistakable defects and anomalies in the provided COLB, and conclude that it is a fabricated document, one that immediately violates state and federal felony statutes regarding fraudulent use of forged or altered identification documents;
WHEREAS, the only assurance candidate Obama provided to state primary election officials that he was an eligible candidate was to sign state-provided certifications, under penalty of perjury; it is possible those officials were subsequently satisfied of the candidate’s eligibility by the COLB;
WHEREAS, Congress was put on notice by numerous voters and groups prior to the November 4, 2008 election of substantial concerns regarding candidate Obama’s Article II eligibility, it is possible members of Congress were satisfied of the candidate’s eligibility by the COLB;
WHEREAS, Congress convened on January 8, 2009 in a Joint Session solely for the purpose of receiving, verifying and tallying the votes of the Electoral College and accepting, or objecting to and where appropriate disqualifying those votes in accordance with 3 USC 15;
WHEREAS, Congress failed to call for objections to any Certificate of Vote presented by the Electoral College during the Joint Session in accordance with 3 USC 15 ;
WHEREAS, such a call would have provided an opportunity to address the issue of whether the President elect was eligible in accordance with Article II and would have been prerequisite to valid acceptance of any Certificate, nonetheless Congress accepted the votes of the Electoral College without such a call;
WHEREAS, in the face of this extraordinary controversy the citizens of the United States are entitled to know whether the President of the United States satisfies the natural born citizen requirement of Article II;
WHEREAS, the members of Congress are sworn to uphold the United States Constitution;
NOW THEREFORE, we the undersigned request that the Congress establish a joint special committee to investigate the question of President Obama’s constitutional eligibility, which shall have the mandate to subpoena and examine forensically all documents, including but not limited to his original certificate of birth, bearing upon such question.
And what sensible counterarguments do you have in mind?
In point of fact, only two human beings, outside the confines of the Obama Cartel have ever even been "allowed" to see this paper object in person, and they are reporters Jess Henig and Bob Miller whose forensic document skills are somewhere in the neighborhood of Barney Fife. If they had been told that they were looking at Obama's long lost thesis, then that is what they would have reported.
The OBama Cartel did not invite nor allow any other persons to their Cave in Chicago.
Which is a good idea not believe anything in writing about Obama and his parents that was put out there as a plausibly deniable back story.
obozo is a prime example of foreign influence, and should not be running this Republic.
"Birth certificate? I ain't got no birth certificate, I don't need no birth certificate! I don't have to show you any stinking birth certificate!"
Sorry, but I couldn't find a link to that famous picture.
I would chosen other words, but you understand what I meant. Misspelling a word is not the largest crime, that is ignorance. I think that fits you perfectly as well.
That there was a joke, son
The OBama Cartel did not invite nor allow any other persons to their Cave in Chicago.
What is wrong with the sentence above? I appreciate your hard work but Obama would not be comfortable in a "Cave". Being that he is from Africa he would be more comfortable in a "HUT".
Caves are cold and damp, while huts are generally found in hot and humid climes. This would explain why Barry had the heater on so high, at the White House, this winter.
I know that I am a citizen, but I always wondered what type of citizen. The whole affair about the one’s status brought it into question./Just Asking - seoul62......
Do you really think I care? I don’t!!
He wouldn’t be, but his bloodsucking MoonBats would feel right at home.
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