Posted on 02/13/2009 2:41:18 AM PST by SvenMagnussen
A high-powered team of Los Angeles attorneys representing President Obama in his effort to keep his birth certificate, college records and passport documents concealed from the public has suggested there should be "monetary sanctions" against a lawyer whose clients have brought a complaint alleging Obama doesn't qualify for the Oval Office under the Constitution's demand for a "natural born" citizen in that post.
The suggestion came in an exchange of e-mails and documents in a case brought by former presidential candidate Alan Keyes and others in California. The case originally sought to have the state's electors ordered to withhold their votes for Obama until his eligibility was established. Since his inauguration, it has been amended to seek a future requirement for a vetting process, in addition to the still-sought unveiling of Obama's records.
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You just summarized my endeavors to a tee!
My guess is a lot of info has been literally scrubbed off the web. Who knows how many witnesses are missing,ala Clinton style, and what the real story is.
This is going to take a lot of investigation and may take a while.
Another of the tinfoil brigade heard from. You need to loosen your beanie or lay off the mojitos.
Bookmarked ... most excellent, and concise.
Notice the agitprop didn’t even address your question. LOL ... this one has confessed that the only reason it plays on the BC threads is to amuse itself, and perhaps adjust its ‘hat’ to show more of its donkey.
Amendment XIV
(Ratified July 9, 1868)
"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to make eligible for the Office of President a person who is not a natural born citizen of the United States but has been a United States citizen for at least 20 years.
Mr. ROHRABACHER introduced the following joint resolution; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary
Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to make eligible for the Office of President a person who is not a natural born citizen of the United States but has been a United States citizen for at least 20 years.
Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to make eligible for the Office of President a person who has been a United States citizen for twenty years.
Mr. FRANK (for himself and Mr. HOEKSTRA) introduced the following joint resolution; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary
Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to make eligible for the Office of President a person who has been a United States citizen for twenty years.
That clause also requires legitimate proof of birth and citizenship for THREE PEOPLE, and not just the child who grows up and runs for President.
This is the information on the sanction.
Orly Taitz is Alan Keyes lead attorney.
Great work as usual BP2.
Scrubbing is still going on as evidenced by the post on Ann Dunham’s wiki about the East West Center that lasted less than 24 hours. It’s also convenient that so many people who could have some knowledge of events are dead. Even one of the two teachers of the Russian language class has died, she passed away in 2005 but not all the students who took that class could be dead. The question then is why has not one of them come forward? Not a single person has come forward with any memories of the student Ann Dunham in classes for the 1960 semester.
Alice G. Dewey has certainly had plenty to say but if she mentions Ann and Obama Sr then her testimony is hearsay as she wasn’t on the faculty of UH until 1963 and yet info on the 80 year old Dewey is sparse as well. It certainly raises even more questions!
There’s really three when applicable caselaw is considered:
Natural Born Citizen
Citizen
Native Born Citizen
http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaNaturalBorn.htm
I think it is pretty clear that Odumbo had an Indonesian passport several years ago, because he sure as hell did not travel to Pakistan on an American passport (one of the reasons he steadfastly refuses to present his BC, his school records, and his passport records. Apparently he did not get a U.S. passport until he ran for public office.
“Afraid? No. To be afraid, I’d first have to care.”
Sums up your case nicely. You don’t care that the presidency has probably been usurped by a lying marxist. We do. We plan to do all that we can to prove it and protect the constitution. Chalk this one up to ‘irreconcillable differences.”
“Quite the contrary. Again, the burden is on you, not him. If you don’t already have the evidence, then all you have is speculation, and by definition haven’t met your burden of proof. That’s the whole reason for that statute. So you can’t just say you suspect so-and-so might not be a citizen and cause their privacy rights to be infringed.”
This has to be the most specious and bankrupt of all your arguements. He isn’t a private citizen. He claims to be qualified to be POTUS, a position that has a requirement that he be a natural born citizen. His conduct and actions indicate that he is not or may not be, a natural born citizen. I and thousands of others, are not content to see someone in charge of the awesome power of this country who is subceptible to blackmail by foreign powers and who has no right to hold the office.
All detective or police work involves a certain amount of speculation. By your twisted lights, no arrests could be made unless the arresting agencies had PROOF that the perp did it. That is why police and officers of the court are given supeona power, grand juries, summonses, warrants, probable cause power, etc, etc, so as to ferret out the truth before a proper tribunal. Just think of us as speaking truth to power.
People with your attitude, employing sophistry and the law, will be the death of this republic.
I think you just hit on this guy's goal. In addition to being a major league troll.
It’s going to take an investigative reporter with lots of sources and loads of dough to get to the bottom of whomever this guy is and wherever he comes from.
***I’m not being “flippant,” but do we have any investigative reporters left?
I believe the attorneys are working hard but I’d LOVE to see a conservative “Woodward and Bernstein.”
So many in the MSM and even bloggers (M. Malkin, P. Geller)
and a whole host of others (Rush, Hannity) never wanted to delve into it.
Yeah, there are alot of key people missing and info gone...maybe that’s why “they” (whoever is controling this mess) felt that this was the best time to get BO elected. If there’s some kind of a “paper trail” out there, I’m sure it’s been burned.
One of these 42 lawsuits has to be heard. God, please make it soon.
Every time I dig into it at all it only inpspires more and more questions.And you are right we were really let down by talk radio on this one and others as well.
I can’t honestly think there is such a thing as an “investigative reporter” left in the U.S. One of the few I have seen who tells it like it is doesn’t even live in the U.S. I am referring to Melanie Phillips in the U.K. Reporters in this country felt they did their job and vetting of Jr by reading his book! Some job they did relying on a fairytale!
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