States Passing Resolutions of Sovereignty?

Various State Legislatures | February 11, 2009 | TCH

[TCH]

PLEASE DISTRIBUTE TO ALL AMERICANS - THIS IS NOT A DRILL!

Good information to pass on to the sleeping public. It is preaching to the choir for most of you. Redistribute to the sleepers.

9+ States have now declared sovereignty... Add Washington to the list.

In case you didn’t hear about it on the mainstream media (which you haven’t because they want to keep us asleep), numerous states are currently declaring or have already declared sovereignty, including:

Washington

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/billinfo/summary.aspx?year=2009&bill=4009

New Hampshire

http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/legislation/2009/HCR0006.html

Arizona

http://www.azleg.gov/FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/legtext/49leg/1r/bills/hcr2024p.htm

Montana

http://data.opi.mt.gov/bills/2009/billhtml/HB0246.htm

Michigan

http://legislature.mi.gov/doc.aspx?2009-HCR-0004

Missouri

http://www.house.mo.gov/content.aspx?info=/bills091/bills/HR212.HTM

Oklahoma

http://axiomamuse.wordpress.com/2009/01/07/state-legislator-charles-key-wants-to-limit-federal-power

California

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/93-94/bill/sen/sb_0001-0050/sjr_44_bill_940829_chaptered

Georgia

http://www.legis.state.ga.us/legis/1995_96/leg/fulltext/sr308.htm

Possibly: Colorado, Hawaii, Pennsylvania, Montana, Arkansas, Idaho,Indiana, Alaska, Kansas, Alabama, Nevada, Maine, Illinois

It is interesting to note that Arizona explicitly speaks about continuity of government and the role of servicemen.

...”if the President or any other federal entity attempts to institute martial law or its equivalent without an official declaration in one or more of the states without the consent of that state ... individual members of the military return to their respective states and report to the Governor until a new President is elected;...”

Full text: http://www.azleg.gov/FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/legtext/49leg/1r/bills/hcr2024p.htm

“The Tenth Amendment was intended to confirm the understanding of the people at the time the Constitution was adopted, that powers not granted to the United States were reserved to the States or to the people. It added nothing to the instrument as originally ratified.” — United States v. Sprague, 282 U.S. 716, 733 (1931).

[snowrip]

Sounds like the state governments are more than a little afraid that things on the American Street may soon begin to get out of hand.

[panthermom]

State Sovereignty has nothing to do with cessation. It is about States Rights per the Constitution.

[visualops]

Wow...paging Gov Sanford, paging Gov Sanford, please pick up the white courtesy phone! (why isn’t SC on that list?!)

[jeffc]

now we just need a contiguous block of states with coastal access to pass this stuff.

I agree with you and I think the Florida, Alabama, Mississippi Louisiana, Texas Gulf Coast region is a good place to start, as they would probably go to a conservative split (Lousisiana would be shaky, and Texas may want to go completely on its own, but . . . ).

I've said this before, and I'm gonna' keep on saying it until someone agrees with me, or I'm told to shut up!:
The best way to get this done is to get the libs to want to separate from us. Then we say, "Fine. Let the States vote to see who they want to go with!".

We need two things:

1) A framework of a new Constitution to build on and fill out, or at least a list of ideas to build a Constitution on, to show the voters what direction we're going in, and what it offers them.

2) A way to allow the liberals caught in our areas to easily get out and move to the new liberal-land, and the conservatives caught in liberal-land to get to our side. I propose a sort of international database people could use to swap houses, jobs, etc. and the two new nations would drop any taxes, fees, etc. and offer assistance to get people to where they want to go, for a limited time.

Big questions arise, though, of what happens to the military and their installations (a sort-of phased separation might work), multi-state corporations, etc. - things like that.

[cc2k]

Many of these date back to the Clinton years.

Though a good number are current in the 2009 sessions.

But the headline of this thread is quite deceptive. I don't think these measures have passed in even one state.

[Tahoe3002]

Rick Perry wants to run for president, so he will not get behind our secession. I will sign up immediately.

[jeffc]

I see something like this:

The northeast states, along with liberals like Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, etc. break away and form a liberal land with the eastern Canadian provinces. The southeast U.S. and the heartland form up with the Canadian NorthWest Territories on up through Alaska for a new conservative nation.
California, Oregon, Washington state (at least the western half) form up with Vancouver, etc. and go thier own way.

With the U.S. being the only real superpower I doubt any attempted meddling by foreign powers would have any effect, at least on us; the libs are so wishy-washy I can't predict how they would react . . .

[VRWCtaz]

Wow...paging Gov Sanford, paging Gov Sanford, please pick up the white courtesy phone! (why isn’t SC on that list?!)

Historically our resolutions of this type have taken on a more forceful nature.

[yefragetuwrabrumuy]

The restoration of State sovereignty involves several important rights that must be returned to the individual States, that define their sovereignty.

1) The vast majority of federal land takings must be returned to the States. The exceptions are limited areas of truly unique character — the “crown jewels” of the federal park system, federal military reservations, and lands ceded by treaty to the sovereign Indian nations.

2) The elimination of federal laws redundant with the authority of States retained under the constitution. As States may “add to, not delete from” federal law, the federal government cannot assert overlapping authority of State laws to assert jurisdiction.

3) The States are the representatives of the people, and reserve the right to tax individual citizens. The federal government derives taxes from duties, interstate commerce, and taxation of the individual states. The federal government has no authority to tax or provide benefits to individuals except through their State. The sole exception is the military draft.

4) The federal government has no right to compel debts or obligations to States in the form of unfunded mandates, nor can federal judges or officers direct States to fund what their legislature does not want to fund.

5) Civil Rights are to be asserted solely as equal protection under the law, and only to citizens. The federal government cannot oblige States to provide legal advantage to a single class of citizen.

[astyanax]

I see no need for a new Constitution.
In 200+ years, nothing has come close to the original.
We just need to start enforcing our existing Constitution.
This is a good start.

[60Gunner]

Bump for later.

[astyanax]

Here’s a prior post with some background info.
This ‘movement’ isn’t about secession,
it is about restoring the rights of the States.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2180376/posts
(Thanks to nuconvert)

[Le Chien Rouge]

Hopefully Texas will secede..... We have our own natural resources and are not on the national power grid. :)

I agree........sooner the better.....

[Spktyr]

Texas would probably return to being a sovereign republic, yes.

Besides which, we in Texas have lots of nuclear power plants *and* nuclear weapons and the knowledge/industrial base to maintain *both*.

[MtnMan101]

Time To take our Country back!

[Little Bill]

We are 25 votes short in the Lower House and Five Short of Majority in the Upper House DOA.

[SuperLuminal]

"I wouldn't’t make too much of this. These “sovereignty” bills are regularly introduced and come to nothing.

"come to nothing." only in the legal sense. Their symbolic importance, however, cannot be underestimated.

They serve as a constant reminder to those serfs who were abused by their birth parents, by being allowed to be indoctrinated in government schools, that the former Constitution of the United States did protect the sovereign rights of states in all areas not specifically designated to the federal government.

There will come a time when such information will be an important argument in recruitment.

[lgjhn23]

“I agree with you and I think the Florida, Alabama, Mississippi Louisiana, Texas Gulf Coast region is a good place to start, as they would probably go to a conservative split (Lousisiana would be shaky, and Texas may want to go completely on its own, but . . . )...”

Yep.l We’ve been talking about it for months here at work and at the gun range. We’d like to see the gulf coast states and all those up along the Miss. River join in (red voting states). We’ve got the means to be totally independent with energy, agriculture, industry, etc. We do NOT need the a$$-wipe marxist/leftists on either coast to run our lives and steal the first-fruits of our labor.

[TCH]

That is why I used a question mark. I am pasing on what information I have found, and the associated links... I am asking for help to get the truth of the matter nailed down... that is whether there is now an active assertion of states rights, or just a few loud voices crying out in the wilderness. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT! I have just found out that now Obama has issued a directive to take over the Census Bureau! I TRULY BELIEVE WE ARE ABOUT TO LOOSE OUR REPUBLIC!!!

[sheik yerbouty]

Outstanding!