Bill creates detention camps in U.S. for 'emergencies'

WorldNetDaily.com ^ | February 01, 2009 | Jerome R. Corsi

[Man50D]

Rep. Alcee L. Hastings, D-Fla., has introduced to the House of Representatives a new bill, H.R. 645, calling for the secretary of homeland security to establish no fewer than six national emergency centers for corralling civilians on military installations.

The proposed bill, which has received little mainstream media attention, appears designed to create the type of detention center that those concerned about use of the military in domestic affairs fear could be used as concentration camps for political dissidents, such as occurred in Nazi Germany.

The bill also appears to expand the president's emergency power, much as the executive order signed by President Bush on May 9, 2007, that – as WND reported – gave the president the authority to declare an emergency and take over the direction of all federal, state, local, territorial and tribal governments without even consulting Congress.

[Katarina]

Thanks for the ping to this.

[Prole]

This "bill" is probably shades of the communist camp in the film "Red Dawn."

I would rather be dead than end up in one of these Congressional-Obama "camps."

[Kimberly GG]

Regardless of what the camps are intended for, their existence doesn’t bode well with the new expansion of power for the POTUS to declare such an emergency without the approval of Congress and for the possibility of people to be forced into the camps against their will. Add to it the fact that our former President insisted folks like the Minutemen were vigilantes, it’s all quite disconcerting.

Of course we all have biases and agendas. I’d be perfectly ok if all illegal aliens were rounded up, encamped until the border was effectively secured, and then deported.

[Force of Truth]

I’ve heard there have been covert plans out there for years to stick the Christians in concentration camps.

[Beckwith]

Corsi is a very reliable researcher.

[TADSLOS]

Ping.

[FreeManN]

I wonder how Bob the BO’s lawyer will answer to this?

PHONE: 202.628.6600

Robert (Bob) Bauer is currently counsel to Obama for America and the Democratic Senatorial and Congressional Campaign Committees, and has served as co-counsel to the New Hampshire State Senate in the trial of Chief Justice David A. Brock (2000).

607 Fourteenth Street N.W. Washington, D.C. 20005-2003

PHONE: 202.628.6600 FAX: 202.434.1690

[Travis McGee]

CW2 Ping.

"They were never needed in the past when we were living 30 minutes away from having the soviets obliterating our cities. We’ve had other natural disasters in the past without the need for “relocation camps”. Funny how 0bama calls for the formation of an organization similar to the nazi SS or the soviet KGB and MVD (Civilian National Security Force) while one of his America hating rump ranger comrades is pushing to create these camps......"

Well said!

[Travis McGee]

FEMA camps for unwilling refugees are a central aspect of my next novel, which is 90% complete.

After two Richter 8 New Madrid earthquakes, Washington determines that the inhabitants of West Tennessee must leave for the FEMA camps, because they cannot be taken care of in place. Of course, you may not take firearms to FEMA camps. Most of the inhabitants refuse to go, and that is when it all begins.

[LibertyRocks]

This is one of the things I was upset with George Bush about during his last year in office. He should have known better than to leave something in place that his successor could use to their advantage to gain control in ANY way over the people, and take away ANY part of their rights. Heck, he should’ve known better than to craft those in the first place — a politician who doesn’t think about something far enough in the future to anticipate some of these types of “unintended consequences” shouldn’t be making these types of decisions. They should be thinking a little harder, IMHO.

[I don’t, frankly, see why the President would need this power in an emergency in a HUGE way. He should have the power of the Federal Government as it exists, right now, and that’s it. The Executive Branch should not be trying to increase it’s power base otherwise checks and balances do not have a chance of working as they should.]

Now, don’t get me wrong. I am not “blaming Bush” entirely, obviously Obama is the dictator who is using these laws against the people (or would), but even the most sincere of people can create problems for the future if they are not careful. Bush may not have abused the directive, and genuinely thought it was good, but now Obama will use this to exert more power — and that’s a very bad thing.

Incidentally, it’s the same thing that is wrong with Socialist policies. They hand too much power to one branch, and one person, and one party, really. And, for instance, even if Obama DIDN’T abuse this legislation against the people, someone in the future would... It’s only human nature...

This is frustrating. Why don’t people learn? It’s not as if this hasn’t been “done before” in history...

[mad_as_he$$]

There have been rumors about camps all over the West for years. I have been to three sites specifically identified by the tin foil hat gang. One is a cow pasture near Elko Nevada. Another is Fallon NAS which the constantly misidentify as “Stillwater Navy Base”. Fallon is too small with a great deal of security issues for detaining a great number of people. Actually the best place to hold people would be large stadiums. Very easy to maintain control.

[television is just wrong]

yeah, thats if Obama doesn’t come to your door to take it from you.

[FreeManN]

Just ask Bob the BO’s lawyer if this is true?

PHONE: 202.628.6600

Robert (Bob) Bauer is currently counsel to Obama for America and the Democratic Senatorial and Congressional Campaign Committees, and has served as co-counsel to the New Hampshire State Senate in the trial of Chief Justice David A. Brock (2000).

607 Fourteenth Street N.W. Washington, D.C. 20005-2003

PHONE: 202.628.6600 FAX: 202.434.1690

[Scotswife]

The fact the WND may be better than the left wingers still isn’t saying much.

I don’t share your admiration for the source.

[Dustbunny]

They need to fix up Alcatraz and use it for terrorists.

[DBrow]

Here is the dastardly Garden Plot conspiracy, directly from the testimony of Major General Richard Alexander:

"Congress should authorize and fund a program for organizing, training and equipping National Guard units for dual mission Homeland Security support for first responders. Oversight of these homeland security missions should be provided by the National Guard Bureau based on the long-standing Garden Plot model in which National Guard units are trained and equipped to support civil authorities in crowd control and civil disturbance missions. The program should also authorize and fund National Guard training with civil authorities, to include local first responders, to assure a heightened state of collective preparedness for consequence management of domestic Chemical, Biological, Radiological, Nuclear or high yield Events (CBRNE) events."

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[DBrow]

“First of all, the “New Orleans disaster” was caused by the LOCAL GOVERNMENT not following through with their published evacuation plan followed by their refusal to allow outside organizations in to provide relief services.

Yes, I agree strongly with this. Under the Stafford Act, the feds can only provide what a governor specifically asks for. She did not ask for troops on the ground, portable shelter, power, sanitation, security, transport and housing of displaced people. She basically asked for debris removal and some money.

Even then, these camps sound superfluous and scary. If fedgov wanted to, they could put up a temporary tent city for 10,000 people with kitchens, heat, and sanitation on any suitable ground in under a week.

But permanent designated camps just waiting to be populated? There is no need. I think that if you have a tool you are tempted to use it, and detention facilities (humanitarian detention facilities, with barbed wire to keep miscreants out) just are not needed.

It's a bill in Congress, we can call and write, shine a big light on this.

[Travis McGee]

Actually the best place to hold people would be large stadiums. Very easy to maintain control.

They are perfect for initial "roundups" as in Chile. But they have huge problems after the first couple days. They are really just initial holding sites, the internees must be transferred quickly to permanent facilities. They are also good for this transfer function, since they have fenced and gated areas perfect for prison buses etc.

[Travis McGee]

Alcatraz is a bad idea. First, the old prison, now a popular tourist site, would have to be bulldozed down to bedrock and a new prison would have to be built from scratch. This would take a few years.

Second, the highly visible island would be a magnet for protesters in boats with horns, flags, bullhorns etc. This is in the SF Bay area after all!

Much better (from the fedgoon perspective) to build Supermax prisons far out in the boondocks, away from all cities, where visitors, protesters and reporters will never come.

[Travis McGee]

I think that if you have a tool you are tempted to use it, and detention facilities (humanitarian detention facilities, with barbed wire to keep miscreants out) just are not needed.

Not in America, but perhaps in Amerika. Not in the USA, but maybe in the USSA.

Canary, coalmine. Gulags, police state.