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Before Today I though Ron Paul was Nuts Now I think He is the only choice for President

Posted on 12/24/2007 10:39:05 AM PST by Reform Canada

I saw the interviews with Ron Paul on Glen Beck and Meet the Press and found myself agreeing with much of what he said. He referred to a movie called Freedom to Fascism so I decided to watch. I am a very skeptical person yet I am now convinced. For the sake of your future and the future of your family watch this movie and decide for yourself.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1656880303867390173

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If this post is removed I will be more convinced than ever


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To: Reform Canada
discussing the issues

There are issues, but none of what has been mentioned here. Peace, war, taxation, oil who cares, who cares about some Libertarian. The Natural Gas Pipeline, going to let that go through or continue to be obstructive?

161 posted on 12/24/2007 12:58:23 PM PST by RightWhale (Dean Koonz is good, but my favorite authors are Dun and Bradstreet)
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To: Reform Canada

I miss the good old days, when conspiracy theories were on text pages. Back then, I could skim down and recognize the same old shit in seconds. Now, I have to sit through ominous-sounding music and tedious amateurish titles to reach the same conclusion.

Here’s a hint for free. Just because you just discovered something doesn’t make it new. Planets didn’t come into existence because telescopes got better. Elephants did not begin to exist when the first one was photographed. And this conspiracy theory is older than the hills, even though it’s new to you.


162 posted on 12/24/2007 12:59:03 PM PST by ReignOfError
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To: WildcatClan

****I would say the constitutional basis would be Article I Section 8 Clause I of the Constitution. That, I think would be the basis for any laws that Congress would have passed. At least there is some constitutional basis for it as opposed to abortion which I can find nothing. This is the best answer I have as I have a hard time getting enthused about making a case for the FIT. You know anything that America has done that Paul likes?****

When Income Tax was brought before the Supreme Court the court refused to grant the government this new power of tax collection and the Court has never overturned this decision.

What does Ron like about America? He seems to love the people and it’s Constitution. He likes the freedom of speech and assembly and seems to fear that these rights are under attack and is willing to do what it takes to protect these rights.


163 posted on 12/24/2007 1:01:01 PM PST by Reform Canada (Kyoto=>More Unemployment=>More Poverty=>More Homeless=>More Crime=>More Rape & Murder)
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To: REDWOOD99

I drank 3 mooseheads once....I Puked

I don’t give a crap what Rom Paul says...

He said there was no attack on America that deserved a response.

he has pissed on the graves of 3000 americans...all innocent including 45 children

Ron Paul needs to be kicked in the NUTS.


164 posted on 12/24/2007 1:01:47 PM PST by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: ReignOfError
Now, I have to sit through ominous-sounding music and tedious amateurish titles to reach the same conclusion.

LOL, so true. SOS. different package

I watched about three minutes of that nonsense until I could not take it anymore.

165 posted on 12/24/2007 1:06:48 PM PST by Popman
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To: Calpernia

****You still ignored my post.****

I am not sure what you are referring to. If it is his lack of experience in foreign affairs well many have taken the Presidency with with limited foreign affairs experience at least Paul has time on the Committee.


166 posted on 12/24/2007 1:07:22 PM PST by Reform Canada (Kyoto=>More Unemployment=>More Poverty=>More Homeless=>More Crime=>More Rape & Murder)
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To: Drew68
Like it or not, as the world's only remaining superpower, our elections are everyone's business. Travel around the world and you will see that everyone is concerned with who we elect. And rightfully so.

If he can't vote in our elections I'm not concerned with his stupid input. Therefore, non of his bees wax.

167 posted on 12/24/2007 1:07:54 PM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Reform Canada
When I open this thread, there were about 10 comments, I clicked the link and watched the video. When I returned, I couldn't believe my eyes. Now there's over 150 comments. Has anyone watched the video??? I would of never knew what all the commotion was about. Now I do.Incredible. Now I understand Ron Paul.
168 posted on 12/24/2007 1:10:18 PM PST by TOneocon (The reason there is so much poverty is because of the uneven distribution of capitalism...Rush)
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To: SaxxonWoods

****“I am a very skeptical person yet I am now convinced.”

And one little movie was all it took. Yep, you are a tough sell alright.****

At least I saw the movie. You are making a decision without seeing it therefore you are using even less information then me to make your decision, I guess your an even easier sell.


169 posted on 12/24/2007 1:11:29 PM PST by Reform Canada (Kyoto=>More Unemployment=>More Poverty=>More Homeless=>More Crime=>More Rape & Murder)
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To: Reform Canada

My post

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1943895/posts?page=64#64

And I have some fish calling me. Night. Merry Christmas.


170 posted on 12/24/2007 1:13:24 PM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Reform Canada
Ron Paul isn’t perfect and peoples biggest problem is his position on the WOT.

Actually, people's biggest problem is that he's a raging loon. He's a few sandwiches shy of a picnic. A few fries short of a Happy Meal. His elevator doesn't hit all the floors. he don't have all his dogs barkin'.

Folks who subscribe to every half-baked conspiracy theories, from neo-Nazis to 9/11 truthers, see him as their savior. I wouldn't be surprised if he had a campaign ad promising to name the shooters on the grassy knoll.

What I'm trying to say, in my own subtle way, is, dude's nuttier than a bowl of cashews.

However if there isn’t continued improvement in Iraq and Afghanistan and some serious stability by 2010 than a serious reassessment of the methods being used in this war will needed.

A serious reassessment of the methods used in this war is an ongoing event. Even Cheney and Rumsfeld have admitted to errors in the initial effort. It was reassessed last year, reassessed this year, and will be reassessed next year.

A generation of American isolationism just might be the best thing for America to refortify it’s power

Yeah, because that's worked so well in the past. I mean, we wouldn't want to intervene in Europe in 1933, because it was, oh God, so much more fun in 1942. And isolationism and tariff walls did so much good in preventing the Depression in 1930. But hey, Ron Paul is smarter than history. I'm sure it will work out this time.

and for the rest of the world to learn to look out for itself. If America only acted militarily to defend it’s NATO allies and didn’t get involved in defending non allies and stayed out of UN sanctioned conflicts after a generation you may see a safer world.

So September 11, 2001, was just an "oopsie?" I didn't see any UN sanction in Afghanistan, and our NATO allies took their hits in London and Madrid.

171 posted on 12/24/2007 1:14:16 PM PST by ReignOfError
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To: Reform Canada
Ron Paul is a Libertarian candidate that doesn't even have the honesty or intestinal fortitude to run as a Libertarian.

Why is he hiding behind the Republican Party label?

172 posted on 12/24/2007 1:15:07 PM PST by been_lurking
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To: Reform Canada

You’ve must have spent far too much time in the cold Canada, your brain is frozen..

ANYONE who believes Ron Paul is the solution — doesn’t understand the problem...


173 posted on 12/24/2007 1:15:44 PM PST by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Reform Canada
Much like Global Warmers most you people choose either to attack me personally or declare that Paul is nuts and declare that the debate is over. Paul is fighting the IRS so please if any one of you can point to legislation that is supported by the Supreme Court that makes submitting a federal income tax claim mandatory please do so.

The only thing that bothers me is that you don't have to pay any. Isn't it time to take a sauna?

174 posted on 12/24/2007 1:17:15 PM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Reform Canada
The movie asks what law requires Americans to file a tax return.

26 USC §§ 1, 6012, and 7203 define the income tax, who must file a return, and the crime of willfully failing to file a return, respectively.

Conveniently, the video fails to address any of those statutes.

Judge Easterbrook of the 7th Circuit dealt with the issue of whether the statutory requirement to "make" returns was unconstitutionally vague in U.S. v. Dunkel, 900 F.2d 105 (7th Cir. 1990).

Is "We the People" still running its contest? That video is a load of bunk, and maybe you ought to do your homework before you blindly follow Ron Paul off a cliff.
175 posted on 12/24/2007 1:18:25 PM PST by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country.)
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To: WildcatClan

The federal income tax was authorized by the 16th Amendment. The details are spelled out in the federal tax code. Why are people saying the federal income tax is illegal?


176 posted on 12/24/2007 1:19:05 PM PST by Steve_Seattle (|)
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To: Reform Canada
However if there isn’t continued improvement in Iraq and Afghanistan and some serious stability by 2010 than a serious reassessment of the methods being used in this war will needed.

As evidenced by your gratuitous assertion without factual analysis?

Why 2010? What makes that year so important?

What constitutes "serious stability"? A valid case could be made that both countries are more "stable" now than ever before in their histories.

Forgive me if I ignore your assumed premise and just proceed with the realization that you don't know much about anything.

177 posted on 12/24/2007 1:22:57 PM PST by been_lurking
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To: Soliton
It will never happen. New Orleans (Louisiana) wanted to lower the drinking age to 18 (where it was before the Carter Administration). They were told okay, but they would forfeit their highway funds (taken from them in gas taxes). Republican administrations and congress criters agreed to enforce it.

Close. Not quite, but close.

Most states had the drinking age at 18. That dated back to the Vietnam war, when many states decided it was unfair that folks should be subject to the draft but not considered responsible enough to order a beer.

It was the Reagan administration, not Carter, that used highway funding to push the age to 21 in the mid-'80s. And Louisiana didn't want to lower the age to 18, it resisted raising it to 21. Louisiana was the last holdout, figuring that it was more advantageous to them to forego the federal highway finds and keep the taxes paid by drunk college kids on Bourbon Street. Louisiana eventually relented.

Carter pulled a similar use of federal highway funds as leverage when it strong-armed the states into the nationwide 55 mph speed limit. That was the precedent. But the drinking age was Reagan.

178 posted on 12/24/2007 1:24:39 PM PST by ReignOfError
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To: Reform Canada
I assume, based on your screen name, that you’re Canadian - - so why don’t you just mind your own damned business.
179 posted on 12/24/2007 1:31:07 PM PST by Beckwith (Dhimmicrats and the liberal media have chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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To: Reform Canada

Ron Paul is still nuts - even if he does have some good ideas on freedom and even if his supporters make a clever video blaming income tax on a Jewish conspiracy.


180 posted on 12/24/2007 1:31:14 PM PST by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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