Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.
One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.
All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.
FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?
Do you really expect me to do that?
I may be a little naive, but I think some of them think so little of the other candidates (and potential candidates) that they geniunely believe Rudy is the only guy who can win. And to them, core conservative values are not as important as winning the presidency.
I think some of them overestimate Hillary, as well. But that's only my opinion.
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“If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin.” Samuel Adams
***Excellent quote. 8000 posts!
What do you expect when the same screen name thinks the Constitution is just "words on a piece of paper"?
The employers. What’s your point?
Is this going to be another flame war, where disjointed questions are thrown at me, to derail the topic of discussion?
An amazing thread. It’s a lightning rod!
Lurking time is over.
Time to put a place marker and hit the hay.
Nite all.
Yeah, as Rudy says, it’s time for us to move beyond abortion. Let’s get with the program. Poor women are entitled to federally funded abortions.
I never watched it, but everyone here seems to think Fred Thompson is the toughest on Law & Order.
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What would be necessary philosophically for that to be possible?
No, I agree...it’s people who won’t/don’t want to pay what people would be willing to work for that drive a lot of the illegal demand...lots of people have dirty hands on that...
Lucky for you, Jim uses more than one square.
An overt fear of Hillary Clinton, I believe.
LOL!
Run, Fred, Run!
I won’t settle with God given rights.
I started out talking about Hispanic field hands, not truck drivers and meat packers. If it bothers you so much, then you need to start talking to your congressmen, who are doing nothing about it; the immigration laws they are passing are halfhearted at best. This includes Republicans. One of the strongest lawmakers on immigration is Elton Gallegly out of CA. There is a town in central PA which has been over run with HISPANICS, whether they are legal or illegal I don’t know; likely it’s a mix. There had been some plant there and the HISPANICS came up and started working there and the old workers left. If you had a chance to make more money in America that you would in Tijuana, what would you do?
I think you should be arguing with the owners of the trucking companies, the meatpacking plants, Sunkist Lemon, etc, etc. They are the ones dangling the bait and the hispanics cross the border and get the jobs.
And conservative George W. Bush didn’t seem to offer anything but a guest worker program.
Yep. Our job is to make sure we don’t have to settle!
Cultural Marxist - LOL. You’re a real jokester.
Sorry but George is a Republican and not conservative.
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