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To: BykrBayb

I started out talking about Hispanic field hands, not truck drivers and meat packers. If it bothers you so much, then you need to start talking to your congressmen, who are doing nothing about it; the immigration laws they are passing are halfhearted at best. This includes Republicans. One of the strongest lawmakers on immigration is Elton Gallegly out of CA. There is a town in central PA which has been over run with HISPANICS, whether they are legal or illegal I don’t know; likely it’s a mix. There had been some plant there and the HISPANICS came up and started working there and the old workers left. If you had a chance to make more money in America that you would in Tijuana, what would you do?

I think you should be arguing with the owners of the trucking companies, the meatpacking plants, Sunkist Lemon, etc, etc. They are the ones dangling the bait and the hispanics cross the border and get the jobs.

And conservative George W. Bush didn’t seem to offer anything but a guest worker program.


8,017 posted on 04/24/2007 6:08:13 PM PDT by merry10
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To: merry10
And conservative George W. Bush

Sorry but George is a Republican and not conservative.

8,020 posted on 04/24/2007 6:10:53 PM PDT by politicalwit (Family values don't stop at the border...but Federal laws do.)
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To: merry10; BykrBayb

If it bothers you so much, then you need to start talking to your congressmen, who are doing nothing about it; the immigration laws they are passing are halfhearted at best.
***It helps also to know that the best candidate for president in the race on this issue is Duncan Hunter.


8,023 posted on 04/24/2007 6:11:55 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: merry10
This is what you said:

I think that with immigration, we perhaps SHOULD look at a guest worker program. Because I do not see Americans willing to be bent over from sun up to sun down willing to pick strawberries and lettuce.
You're pretending that the Mexicans were imported because Americans stopped picking produce. Bull! American's stopped picking produce because the Mexicans flooded the market and dropped the wages down to third world levels.

Now you're advocating making it a permanent, legally sanctioned venture. Whose jobs are you hoping to give to the Mexicans next? Yours?

8,090 posted on 04/24/2007 6:53:07 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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To: merry10
There had been some plant there and the HISPANICS came up and started working there and the old workers left. If you had a chance to make more money in America that you would in Tijuana, what would you do?

I might not do anything differently than Jose and Pedro are doing crossing illegally into this country, to be honest--hell, look at Mexico, then look at us. Our slums are their middle-class suburbs! But that doesn't make it right, or legal, or something that we should accept as a fait accompli. If we don't crack down hard on illegal immigration, we might as well just throw the borders wide open, because we're just wasting billions of dollars and a lot of effort if we only go halfway.

If Mexico didn't have a two-thousand-mile long safety valve to bleed off 10% of their population and send $50 billion a year back south, maybe they'd actually get serious about fixing the structural problems in their own society.

}:-)4

8,132 posted on 04/24/2007 7:19:51 PM PDT by Moose4 (Yoiks, and away!)
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