Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?

vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

[Jim Robinson]

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?

[gpapa]

limited government intervention in personal choices

A core Republican principle as outlined in the party platform is the right to life.

[dmw]

“Those who continue trying to push this socialist butcher off onto the rest of us are going to feel a whole LOT of pushing back. This I promise.”

Ooooohhhhh. Sounds like someone's getting a message.

“And those who can’t bear the truth about Giuliani and can’t understand why conservatives outright reject such a repulsive liberal, should get out of the kitchen now, because we’ve barely begun to fight.”

It looks like the heat’s gonna get cranked up a bit...yikes! ;^)

[Luke21]

“You have an interesting, albeit warped sense of logic.

But if it makes you feel good about yourself, Lukey, go for it.”

I spoke to you in peace. You returned with insults. This is what we have been putting up with from you people. I’m not going to do it anymore.

You want to call names, call them. But you will get them back, I assure you. So let’s start with you. You are nothing but a whining, smarmy, two sentence writing liberal cretin, claiming to be afraid to post here because people are mean. You aren’t exactly the most eloquent individual here, yourself.

Now give me some more names Liberal, because that’s the level of discourse we have to allow for with people like you. Bring it on.

[stuned_beeber]

I'm one of the few at this forum who hasn't made up their mind and would like to see the debate...

Get popcorn, and start at post 1.

[68 grunt]

Yeah, and then humbly asking to help JR with his database, uh-huh ...

[DCPatriot]

LOL!

Mexicans have more children (taxpayers-military)than the Polish.

And who wants to see Pierogi Bell restaurants?

[arasina]

As for fiscal vs social conservatives, I wouldn’t consider a person conservative unless he was both. I don’t think you can pick and choose from a laundry list of positions and have a conservative position on some and a liberal position on others and still call yourself a conservative. One who believes in big government spending, high taxes, entitlements and government handouts is a liberal plain and simple even if he doesn’t believe in abortion or gay rights, etc.

Sounds like a COMPASSIONATE Conservative to me. Who do we all know who adamantly claims a belief in 'compassionate conservatism' -- that old 'reach-across-the-aisle-even-if-it's-Ted-Kennedy's-big-fat-socialist-hand' method of governing? (except for the high taxes part, that is)

[BykrBayb]

In other words, you’re a coward. The most courage you can muster can only be called Kerrage. If you had any real courage, you’d tell Jim Robinson to his face, instead of filtering your insults through other freepers, and calling him names on anti-freeper websites.

[DCPatriot]

Please...don’t you dare leave.

[68 grunt]

I apologize if I seemed to lump all Christians into the phony caricature. Actually, it is my desire to immunize, to protect the Christians who hold Jesus in their heart.

[OMalley]

Hey:)

[ohioWfan]

My son is in the military. He is an Iraq war vet, and will be redeployed in 2008.

Hillary hates the military, and his very life will be at stake, as well as his future should she get into power.

There is a lot at stake here, and every principled conservative who loves this country had better be in deep thought and prayer about the upcoming primaries as well as the general election.

The attacks on people who have made choices other than what we ourselves have made, or would make, have been inexcusable.

Any pretense that conservatives were thoughtful, decent people is well out the window and smashing on the sidewalk right now.

[JustaDumbBlonde]

Buh bye. ;-)

[Crawdad]

A core Republican principle as outlined in the party platform is the right to life.

True. So why hasn't the Republican Party (the same clowns who send me fundraising letters in envelopes that look like those the IRS uses) told Rudy, "Thanks, but no thanks."? Would they allow Hillary Clinton to run as a Republican?

[KDD]

I’m just baffled why anyone else would stubbornly permit a democrat to win the White House in these times.

For one thing...Republicans are much more likely to oppose the policies of a liberal democrat President then they would be to oppose a liberal Republican President...In that context Rudy, who has many of the same liberal ideas and beliefs that Clinton has, would be a greater danger to the Republic then Clinton.

[dmw]

My, my, you are the nauti one today. Kinda uptight are we? I was just trying to be nice, but that didn’t work out too well for me did it? Take a valium, nurse. ;^)

[woofie]

Im with you..well stated

A glimpose at future debate at FR:

I hate Rudy

me too

He’s a liberal

I hear that too

He kills babies

Yea

Rudy is scum

Right on

and on and on

[stuned_beeber]

Look at the timeline. My offer was, indeed genuine. And yes, I do know my ‘stuff’. Are you willing to get back off your backside and help out, or are you just gonna pee over the side?

[upsdriver]

Hi How ya doing? Lots of excitement here today!

[Bigh4u2]

It’s an error that is easily rectified.

And you did so.

Thanks.

“Actually, it is my desire to immunize, to protect the Christians who hold Jesus in their heart.”

Noble, but not necessary for a true Christian.