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Will FR embrace socialism to make way for Rudy Giuliani as a Republican presidential candidate?
vanity | April 21, 2007 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 04/21/2007 6:42:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We've got some real challenges facing us. FR was established to fight against government corruption, overstepping, and abuse and to fight for a return to the limited constitutional government as envisioned and set forth by our founding fathers in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and other founding documents.

One of the biggest cases of government corruption, overstepping and abuse that I know of is its disgraceful headlong slide into a socialist hell. Our founders never intended for abortion to be the law of the land. And they never intended the Supreme Court to be a legislative body. They never intended God or religion to be written out of public life. They never intended government to be used to deny God's existence or for government to be used to force sexual perversions onto our society or into our children's education curriculum. They never intend for government to disarm the people. They never intended for government to set up sanctuary cities for illegals. They never intended government to “rule” over the people and or to take their earnings or private property or to deprive them of their constitutional rights to free speech, free religion, private property, due process, etc. They never intended government to seize the private property of private citizens through draconian asset forfeiture laws or laws allowing government to take private property from lawful owners to give to developers. Or to seize wealth and redistribute it to others. Or to provide government forced health insurance or government forced retirement systems.

All of the above are examples of ever expanding socialism and tyranny brought to us by liberals/liberalism.

FR fights against the liberals/Democrats in all of these areas and always will. Now if liberalism infiltrates into the Republican party and Republicans start promoting all this socialist garbage, do you think that I or FR will suddenly stop fighting against it? Do you think I'm going to bow down and accept abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, global warming, illegal alien lawbreakers, gun control, asset forfeiture, socialism, tyranny, totalitarianism, etc, etc, etc, just so some fancy New York liberal lawyer can become president from the Republican party?

Do you really expect me to do that?


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To: Delphinium

Lets do it! He has got to go.

Kids were playing the WII here too! woke up at 5am and they were still up playing! Looks fun, i may have to give it a whirl myself.
my lights arent lighting up to let me know ive got pings! i think this thing is on its last leg.

So whats the game plan for stopping rootie?!


2,661 posted on 04/22/2007 1:53:31 PM PDT by OMalley (Just say NO to Rudy "Tootsie" Giuliani-GO Duncan Hunter 08:))
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To: Petronski; Cincinatus' Wife

She isn’t leaving, yet. She said good bye and then stayed.


2,662 posted on 04/22/2007 1:54:16 PM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: Jim Robinson

May I (humbly) offer any assistance with said database?

(I am somewhat of an expert in some things...)


2,663 posted on 04/22/2007 1:54:32 PM PDT by stuned_beeber (Quit...Give up...Go home...- Vote Democrat!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Hey, don’t cry to me. You’re the one dragging the abortionist gay rights loving liberal into a conservative organization. Don’t expect people on FR to welcome a gun grabbing illegal alien lover. Ain’t gonna happen.


2,664 posted on 04/22/2007 1:55:12 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: 68 grunt

Are you stepping up to the plate to be the next banned liberal, or are you too cowardly to take it that far?


2,665 posted on 04/22/2007 1:55:30 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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To: stuned_beeber

The piling on is unseemly. The pain that CW is feeling is real, and she is obviously torn. For a relative newbie to twist the knife is sickening.


2,666 posted on 04/22/2007 1:55:43 PM PDT by RobFromGa (This tagline intentionally left blank.)
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To: 68 grunt

Ok.

I understand that there are ‘Sunday going to church’ Christians and ‘everyday’ Christians.

But the statement you made seems to lump ‘all’ Christians together, and that is the issue I have with it.

But it also can be said of Conservatives.

There are ‘Win at all costs’ Conservatives that will look the other way on certain issues, just to keep ‘Hillary out of office’. And there are Conservatives that will not compromise, even if it means sacrificing a temporary place in the Whitehouse.

The Conservative party, in order to preserve itself, must get back to it’s ‘grass roots’.

Anything else is just compromising to ‘get along’.

I’ve never done it and never will.


2,667 posted on 04/22/2007 1:56:28 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: narses
Embraced? A bit hyperbolic, don't you think?

I haven't been on many political threads because of the unbridled vitriol and spamming (and I haven't made up my mind yet, and find FR a difficult place to find objective information these days).

All I know is that I'm speaking the truth about Peach. And that's all I'm going to say about it.

2,668 posted on 04/22/2007 1:57:21 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PRAY for our President and our troops. NOW more than ever!!.)
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To: Petronski
If the GOP nominates a pro-abortion gungrabbing liberal, they forfeit my vote, and that result is not my fault, but theirs.

I’ve never voted for a gungrabbing pro-abortion liberal, and I’m not about to start now.

I'll second that!

2,669 posted on 04/22/2007 1:57:25 PM PDT by Marine Inspector (Shhh, I'm hunting RINOs.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

The first six lead to the last four - and in NYC he showed that.


2,670 posted on 04/22/2007 1:57:36 PM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: MACVSOG68
Because you are losing a tremendous amount of intellectual prowess...

Weer sew stoopid, we kin onlee git in the Armee?

Senator Kerry, is that you?

2,671 posted on 04/22/2007 1:58:01 PM PDT by Petronski (FRED!)
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To: RobFromGa

She is whining. Attempting to divert attention by theatrics.

Can a ‘newbie’ not point that out?

(And will someone PLEASE teach me the ‘secret handshake’?)


2,672 posted on 04/22/2007 1:59:20 PM PDT by stuned_beeber (Quit...Give up...Go home...- Vote Democrat!)
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To: NinoFan

I saw one for the first time 2 weeks ago. I liked that the kids get exercise with it. They are having a blast.


2,673 posted on 04/22/2007 2:00:02 PM PDT by Delphinium
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To: Luke21
I don’t care. You like Rudy, fine with me. But you also need to realize that the great majority on this board does not.

But that's just the thing. I'm not in the Rudy camp. I'm one of the few at this forum who hasn't made up their mind and would like to see the debate, not only here, but among the candidates.

We've so poisoned the atmosphere here that if you're NOT against Rudy, you're suspect. What the hell is that all about?

I'm in the undecided category nine months before the first primary. That makes me the enemy. Hard to understand....

2,674 posted on 04/22/2007 2:00:06 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: stuned_beeber

There is no secret handshake, just a level of common decency that is often lacking on this thread.


2,675 posted on 04/22/2007 2:00:49 PM PDT by RobFromGa (This tagline intentionally left blank.)
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To: BykrBayb

Hey butch, you callin’ me a liberal? You are a liar, so that won’t surprise me. But, hit abuse, butch, maybe you can get me gone, too.


2,676 posted on 04/22/2007 2:00:58 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: ohioWfan

“I’m standing up for conservative principles. Absolutely, and completely.”

That’s good.

So that means if we loose the Whitehouse because Conservatives finally decide that compromising their principals is wrong, then you should have no problem with it. As I don’t.

It just means that we fight harder next time to ensure that the Conservative party wins with our grass roots principals and not a ‘win at all costs’ mentality.

I’m with you there.


2,677 posted on 04/22/2007 2:01:00 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: OMalley; daftlogic

ping!


2,678 posted on 04/22/2007 2:01:30 PM PDT by upsdriver (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT!!!!)
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To: KenmcG414
"Aren’t we getting a little hysterical!!Granted the man isn’t perfect. What’s the alternative?"

No. The man is what he says he is. An abortionist, gay rights supporting, gun grabbing, illegal alien loving liberal, ie, a socialist butcher. Pay attention.

We have plenty of qualified conservative candidates that will not only whip Hillary's ass (with all of us behind him) but will knock the stuffings out of the foreign enemy as well. Rudy is toast!

2,679 posted on 04/22/2007 2:01:40 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Marine Inspector

For later.


2,680 posted on 04/22/2007 2:01:55 PM PDT by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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