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The Great Disconnect between the Republican Party and the Conservative Base
vanity | 12 March 2007 | Trueblackman

Posted on 03/12/2007 8:26:01 PM PDT by Trueblackman

The Great Disconnect between the Republican Party and the Conservative Base

The Republican Party better get its act together like yesterday and realize that without its Conservative base, that it will be left to wonder in the wilderness for many more years to come.

Republicans in Congress are now back in the minority after 12 years of majorities granted to them by the base who envisioned the death of big government agencies like the Departments of Education and Energy with control of the purse strings from 1994-2006 and in 2000 with the election of George W. Bush the base demanded the unabated end of the Clinton Era Tactics of manipulation federal government numbers and phony government surpluses.

Conservatives felt that Bush and company would govern like Conservatives, but after 6 years the base saw no victories as the federal government grew bigger under Bush with “No Child Left Behind” and “Medicare Part D.” Bush refused to fight for our most Conservatives Nominees allowing them to be blocked for years on end by a minority within the minority Democrats Caucus in the Senate. Bush’s “new tone” in Washington DC amounted to the abandonment of his Conservative Principals within 6 months of his first term.

Liberal Republicans like John McCain were allowed to cut deals behind close doors on Judicial Nominees, Taxes and Immigration, while the Conservatives in the Senate seem dumbfounded and refused to stop this self-proclaimed maverick and his band of merry sellouts. McCain seems to take joy in stabbing the base in the back every chance he gets, gleefully going on MSNBC to be praised by Chris Matthews, because he feels that he is somehow owed the Presidency and blames the base for his 2000 Primary defeats to George W. Bush. Now McCain wants to be the 2008 Nominee, “Sorry John, but paybacks are a bi*ch” and I will not vote for what amounts to the Republican Party’s Manchurian Candidate.

The House Managers became fat, dumb and happy and governed more like Republicrats than Conservatives and they thought that the fears of impeachment, higher taxes and liberal control of the House would be enough to rally the base to their banner again in 2006, but this time their rally cries fell on deaf ears and their majorities were lost.

The Republican Party still refuses to learn from 2006’s mid-term election defection by the base, Republicans need to realize that they live and die by the votes of the base and that any candidate that does not appeal to the base will not receive our votes. It is better to lose to a Democrat, than to elect a CINO (Conservative In Name Only).

Now as we enter the 2008 Presidential Race we have Northern Eastern Republicans like Rudy Giuliani and Mitt Romney trying to sell themselves to the base as having Conservative Credentials, but when one looks at their records and how they have governed, it has been anything but Conservative, yet there are those in the Republican Party who are trying to sell Giuliani as our best bet in 2008. The only difference in a Liberal Rudy Giuliani and Liberal Hillary Clinton is the fact of which bathrooms they select to use and there are some who are willing to even question that.

As a Conservative, I would rather back a Conservative Republican Candidate and see him lose the Presidential Election on principal than back a Liberal Republican IN Name Only like Rudy Giuliani, Mitt Romney and John McCain, who will end up stabbing me in the back anyway and govern himself by poll and focus groups.

The base would rather lose on principals than win out of convenience and the leaders of the Republican Party better start realizing that.


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1 posted on 03/12/2007 8:26:04 PM PDT by Trueblackman
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To: Trueblackman
Just look at who the Republicans are offering up as Presidential candidates
2 posted on 03/12/2007 8:30:14 PM PDT by Khepera (Do not remove by penalty of law!)
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To: Trueblackman

"As a Conservative, I would rather back a Conservative Republican Candidate and see him lose the Presidential Election on principle"


I have a great deal of respect for you.

But please consider the consequences: UNCHECKED Marxist Dem power: Dem President, larger Dem Control of both Houses of Congress AND activist judges nominated and confirmed by Dems, handing ALL THREE BRANCHES of the US government over to the treasonous, socialist Dems.

Conservatives need to focus on the big picture. You can see all the damage the Dems are already doing to the country, by weakening us against the terrorists -- just imagine the damage they will do with a Dem president for 8 years and teh judges who will be there for the next 40-50 years.


3 posted on 03/12/2007 8:31:54 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Victory in Iraq. Stop Hillary. Go to: http://www.TheVanguard.org)
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To: Trueblackman
Trueblackman,the Republican Party is done.

It's just a name.

Conservatives need to figure out where we go from here.

4 posted on 03/12/2007 8:31:58 PM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served, to keep us free.)
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To: Trueblackman

It's early.

I seriously hope Fred Thompson throws his hat in the ring.

Barring that, I'm in a wait and see mode.


5 posted on 03/12/2007 8:32:03 PM PDT by mplsconservative
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To: Trueblackman

Very well said my FRIend.
It makes one hope with furvor that DUncan Hunter gets more exposure, (I see him as the closest to a true conservative of ANY of them declared thusfar) and lacking that, I pray that Fred Thompson gets into this race soonere rather than later!! We need to have his views heard LOUD and OFTEN!


6 posted on 03/12/2007 8:32:19 PM PDT by MagUSNRET (Duncan Hunter '08!)
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To: Trueblackman

Perhaps I'm a conspiracy theorist, be I believe the Republican Party leadership is deliberately using and manipulating the threat of a takeover by evil nasty Democrats as a means of keeping power. They would rather keep the country on the edge of oblivion than allow conservatives to gain enough traction that they didn't have to be in constant fear of liberals.


7 posted on 03/12/2007 8:33:09 PM PDT by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: Trueblackman

Your last line says it all. I would rather fall with my principles intact than stand OR fall without them.

At this point it looks like the whole primary process is based on avoiding the tough questions.


8 posted on 03/12/2007 8:35:02 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: Khepera

The candidates are running because they want to run in most instances. They are not being offered up by the party.


9 posted on 03/12/2007 8:35:02 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Guiliani is a Democrat in Republican drag.)
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To: Trueblackman

You act like the liberal media had no input into Republicans losing control of Congress. In fact, it was the major reason.


10 posted on 03/12/2007 8:36:34 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: Trueblackman

"The only difference in a Liberal Rudy Giuliani and Liberal Hillary Clinton is the fact of which bathrooms they select to use and there are some who are willing to even question that."


11 posted on 03/12/2007 8:36:39 PM PDT by Verax ("Colored people are like human weeds and are to be exterminated - Planned Parenthood President,")
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To: Trueblackman
Look! Another person with apparent immunity to the "win-at-all-costs-maybe-we-should-put-an-R-in-front-of-Hillary-so-we-can-win-fershure" virus (all the short names were already taken).
12 posted on 03/12/2007 8:36:50 PM PDT by M203M4 (Tancredo, Cox, and Paul are lepers I guess. Not liberal enough...)
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To: FairOpinion
Conservatives need to focus on the big picture. You can see all the damage the Dems are already doing to the country, by weakening us against the terrorists -- just imagine the damage they will do with a Dem president for 8 years and teh judges who will be there for the next 40-50 years.

And if we elect RINOs, what will be our plan in future? As far as I can tell, the long-term effect of electing RINOs is to ensure that the Republicans of the future will be more leftist than the Democrats of today. And if we can't survive today's Democrats, we certainly won't be able to survive tomorrow's RINOs.

13 posted on 03/12/2007 8:37:00 PM PDT by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: mplsconservative
I seriously hope Fred Thompson throws his hat in the ring.

Same here.

14 posted on 03/12/2007 8:37:05 PM PDT by randog (What the...?!)
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To: Trueblackman
Ever since W's first election in 2000 and with Republicans in control of both houses, I was waiting with bated breath for them to start cleaning up the Clinton mess.

Instead, they just let them get by with it.

Disgusting.

15 posted on 03/12/2007 8:38:19 PM PDT by capt. norm (Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for.)
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To: Trueblackman

"As a Conservative, I would rather back a Conservative Republican Candidate and see him lose the Presidential Election on principle"

bump

bump

bump


16 posted on 03/12/2007 8:39:31 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Trueblackman

It's still early.

I have a hunch that it will work itself out.

But right now, we conservatives are justifiably angry that there are those in our midst who place power over principles.

That's used to be the Democrat MO.


17 posted on 03/12/2007 8:40:26 PM PDT by airborne (Rudy is nothing but a donkey in an elephant suit! HUNTER 2008!)
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To: Trueblackman
Generally, I vote for as many of my conservative principles as I can get.

Conservatives who can't win are ultimately as bad for the my principles as Liberals who can.

The candidate I choose is usually somewhere between the two. Which at this juncture leaves out everyone but Mitt Romney.

18 posted on 03/12/2007 8:40:56 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Guiliani is a Democrat in Republican drag.)
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To: Trueblackman

The leaders of the republican party are not that smart or their libs but I repeat myself.


19 posted on 03/12/2007 8:41:18 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: Trueblackman
The base would rather lose on principals[sic] than win out of convenience and the leaders of the Republican Party better start realizing that.

Really? So you were elected to speak for the "base"? You took a poll of the "base"? Or are you possibly projecting your opinion as the "base"'s opinion?

All Your Base Are Belong To Us

20 posted on 03/12/2007 8:41:52 PM PDT by Joe Miner
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