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1 posted on 03/12/2007 8:26:04 PM PDT by Trueblackman
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Just look at who the Republicans are offering up as Presidential candidates
2 posted on 03/12/2007 8:30:14 PM PDT by Khepera (Do not remove by penalty of law!)
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"As a Conservative, I would rather back a Conservative Republican Candidate and see him lose the Presidential Election on principle"


I have a great deal of respect for you.

But please consider the consequences: UNCHECKED Marxist Dem power: Dem President, larger Dem Control of both Houses of Congress AND activist judges nominated and confirmed by Dems, handing ALL THREE BRANCHES of the US government over to the treasonous, socialist Dems.

Conservatives need to focus on the big picture. You can see all the damage the Dems are already doing to the country, by weakening us against the terrorists -- just imagine the damage they will do with a Dem president for 8 years and teh judges who will be there for the next 40-50 years.


3 posted on 03/12/2007 8:31:54 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Victory in Iraq. Stop Hillary. Go to: http://www.TheVanguard.org)
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Trueblackman,the Republican Party is done.

It's just a name.

Conservatives need to figure out where we go from here.

4 posted on 03/12/2007 8:31:58 PM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served, to keep us free.)
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It's early.

I seriously hope Fred Thompson throws his hat in the ring.

Barring that, I'm in a wait and see mode.


5 posted on 03/12/2007 8:32:03 PM PDT by mplsconservative
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Very well said my FRIend.
It makes one hope with furvor that DUncan Hunter gets more exposure, (I see him as the closest to a true conservative of ANY of them declared thusfar) and lacking that, I pray that Fred Thompson gets into this race soonere rather than later!! We need to have his views heard LOUD and OFTEN!


6 posted on 03/12/2007 8:32:19 PM PDT by MagUSNRET (Duncan Hunter '08!)
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Perhaps I'm a conspiracy theorist, be I believe the Republican Party leadership is deliberately using and manipulating the threat of a takeover by evil nasty Democrats as a means of keeping power. They would rather keep the country on the edge of oblivion than allow conservatives to gain enough traction that they didn't have to be in constant fear of liberals.


7 posted on 03/12/2007 8:33:09 PM PDT by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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Your last line says it all. I would rather fall with my principles intact than stand OR fall without them.

At this point it looks like the whole primary process is based on avoiding the tough questions.


8 posted on 03/12/2007 8:35:02 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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You act like the liberal media had no input into Republicans losing control of Congress. In fact, it was the major reason.


10 posted on 03/12/2007 8:36:34 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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"The only difference in a Liberal Rudy Giuliani and Liberal Hillary Clinton is the fact of which bathrooms they select to use and there are some who are willing to even question that."


11 posted on 03/12/2007 8:36:39 PM PDT by Verax ("Colored people are like human weeds and are to be exterminated - Planned Parenthood President,")
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Look! Another person with apparent immunity to the "win-at-all-costs-maybe-we-should-put-an-R-in-front-of-Hillary-so-we-can-win-fershure" virus (all the short names were already taken).
12 posted on 03/12/2007 8:36:50 PM PDT by M203M4 (Tancredo, Cox, and Paul are lepers I guess. Not liberal enough...)
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Ever since W's first election in 2000 and with Republicans in control of both houses, I was waiting with bated breath for them to start cleaning up the Clinton mess.

Instead, they just let them get by with it.

Disgusting.

15 posted on 03/12/2007 8:38:19 PM PDT by capt. norm (Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for.)
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"As a Conservative, I would rather back a Conservative Republican Candidate and see him lose the Presidential Election on principle"

bump

bump

bump


16 posted on 03/12/2007 8:39:31 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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It's still early.

I have a hunch that it will work itself out.

But right now, we conservatives are justifiably angry that there are those in our midst who place power over principles.

That's used to be the Democrat MO.


17 posted on 03/12/2007 8:40:26 PM PDT by airborne (Rudy is nothing but a donkey in an elephant suit! HUNTER 2008!)
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Generally, I vote for as many of my conservative principles as I can get.

Conservatives who can't win are ultimately as bad for the my principles as Liberals who can.

The candidate I choose is usually somewhere between the two. Which at this juncture leaves out everyone but Mitt Romney.

18 posted on 03/12/2007 8:40:56 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Guiliani is a Democrat in Republican drag.)
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The leaders of the republican party are not that smart or their libs but I repeat myself.


19 posted on 03/12/2007 8:41:18 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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The base would rather lose on principals[sic] than win out of convenience and the leaders of the Republican Party better start realizing that.

Really? So you were elected to speak for the "base"? You took a poll of the "base"? Or are you possibly projecting your opinion as the "base"'s opinion?

All Your Base Are Belong To Us

20 posted on 03/12/2007 8:41:52 PM PDT by Joe Miner
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I agree. If the Republicans insist on nominating Rudy I will either stay home or vote third party.

A number of Republicans on the trash Ann Colter said that Conservatives could stay home, they weren't needed, the Republicans could win without them.

I guess that the '06 election was a victory for the Republicans when only few Conservatives stayed home. They showed the Democrats!

Should either John MCCain, Rudy, or Mitt get the Republican nomination for President, the slaughter of Republicans at the polls will make '06 look like a cakewalk.


21 posted on 03/12/2007 8:43:10 PM PDT by sport
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>>>Rudy Giuliani is a MEMBER of Stonewall Vets<<<



Obituary of Harry Hay's

Henry “Harry” Hay, the founder of the modern American gay movement, died on October 24, 2002 at age 90.

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Hay devoted his entire life to progressive politics, and in 1950 founded a state-registered foundation network of support groups for gays known as the Mattachine Society.

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Hay was also a co-founder, in 1979, of the Radical Faeries, a movement affirming gayness as a form of spiritual calling. A rare link between gay and progressive politics

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“Harry was one of the first to realize that the dream of equality for our community could be attained through visibility and activism,” said David M. Smith of the Human Rights Campaign in Washington, DC. “When you were in a room with him, you had the sense you were in the company of a historic figure.”

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“Mattachine” took its name from a group of medieval dancers who appeared publicly only in mask, a device well understood by homosexuals of the 1950s. Hay devised its secret cell structure (based on the Masonic order) to protect individual gays and the nascent gay network. Officially co-gender, the group was largely male -- the Daughters of Bilitis, the pioneering lesbian organization, formed independently in San Francisco in 1956.

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Though some criticized the Mattachine movement as insular, it grew to include thousands of members in dozens of chapters, which formed from Berkeley to Buffalo, and created a lasting national framework for gay organizing. Mattachine set the stage for rapid civil rights gains following 1969’s Stonewall riots in New York City.



NAMBLA emerged from the tumultuous political atmosphere of the 1970s, particularly from the leftist wing of the Gay Liberation movement which followed the 1969 Stonewall Riots in New York City. Although discussion of gay adult-minor sex did take place, gay rights groups immediately following the Stonewall Riot were more concerned with issues of police harassment, nondiscrimination in employment, health care and other areas.

22 posted on 03/12/2007 8:43:34 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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The only difference in a Liberal Rudy Giuliani and Liberal Hillary Clinton is the fact of which bathrooms they select to use and there are some who are willing to even question that.

lol

I really believe we will lose this election to the democrats if we elect a liberal in the primary.

As a Conservative, I would rather back a Conservative Republican Candidate and see him lose the Presidential Election on principal than back a Liberal Republican IN Name Only like Rudy Giuliani, Mitt Romney and John McCain, who will end up stabbing me in the back anyway and govern himself by poll and focus groups. The base would rather lose on principals than win out of convenience and the leaders of the Republican Party better start realizing that.

Well said, and I am in total agreement.

I do believe that our conservative priniples are winning priniples, if we can continue to get the message out.

Can you imagine was a liberal like Rudy would do to this message, we have worked so hard to get out to the American people?
24 posted on 03/12/2007 8:45:01 PM PDT by Delphinium
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"The base would rather lose on principals than win out of convenience"

Talk about taking a long walk on a short pier. That's all very pretty except we are at war and the Dims side with our enemy.

Those who fancy themselves as "The Base" can suckle principal all day and night. The rest will endeavor to preserve our union.

You asked.. that's what I think.


26 posted on 03/12/2007 8:45:54 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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