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Oldest noodles unearthed in China
BBC News ^ | 9/12/05 | BBC News

Posted on 10/12/2005 1:36:46 PM PDT by bigmac0707

Oldest noodles unearthed in China

Late Neolithic noodles: They may settle the origin debate

The 50cm-long, yellow strands were found in a pot that had probably been buried during a catastrophic flood.

Radiocarbon dating of the material taken from the Lajia archaeological site on the Yellow River indicates the food was about 4,000 years old.

Scientists tell the journal Nature that the noodles were made using grains from millet grass - unlike modern noodles, which are made with wheat flour.

The discovery goes a long way to settling the old argument over who first created the string-like food.

Professor Houyuan Lu said: "Prior to the discovery of noodles at Lajia, the earliest written record of noodles is traced to a book written during the East Han Dynasty sometime between AD 25 and 220, although it remained a subject of debate whether the Chinese, the Italians, or the Arabs invented it first.

"Our discovery indicates that noodles were first produced in China," the researcher from the Institute of Geology and Geophysics, Chinese Academy of Sciences, Beijing, explained to BBC News.

The professor's team tells Nature that the ancient settlement at Lajia was hit by a sudden catastrophe.

Among the remains are skeletons thrown into various abnormal postures, suggesting the inhabitants may have been trying to flee the disaster that was enveloping them.

"Based on the geological and archaeological evidence, there was a catastrophic earthquake and immediately following the quake, the site was subject to flooding by the river," explained co-author Professor Kam-biu Liu, from Louisiana State University, US.

"Lajia is a very interesting site; in a way, it is the Pompeii of China."

It was in amongst the human wreckage that scientists found an upturned earthenware bowl filled with brownish-yellow, fine clay.

When they lifted the inverted container, the noodles were found sitting proud on the cone of sediment left behind.

"It was this unique combination of factors that created a vacuum or empty space between the top of the sediment cone and the bottom of this bowl that allowed the noodles to be preserved," Professor Kam-biu Liu said.

The noodles resemble the La-Mian noodle, the team says; a traditional Chinese noodle that is made by repeatedly pulling and stretching the dough by hand.

To identify the plants from which the noodles were made, the team looked at the shape and patterning of starch grains and so-called seed-husk phytoliths in the bowl.

These were compared with modern crops. The analysis pointed to the use of foxtail millet (Setaria italica) and broomcorn millet (Panicum miliaceum)

"Our data demonstrate that noodles were probably initially made from species of domesticated grasses native to China. This is in sharp contrast to modern Chinese noodles or Italian pasta which are mostly made of wheat today," Professor Houyuan Lu said.


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KEYWORDS: agriculture; animalhusbandry; archaeology; broomcornmillet; c14; china; dietandcuisine; foxtailmillet; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; history; huntergatherers; lajia; noodles; panicummiliaceum; pompeii; radiocarbondating; science; setariaitalica; yellowriver
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1 posted on 10/12/2005 1:36:48 PM PDT by bigmac0707
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They obviously found the reamins of a neolithic college dorm.


2 posted on 10/12/2005 1:38:06 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Now that taglines are cool, I refuse to have one.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Five for a dorrar.


3 posted on 10/12/2005 1:38:56 PM PDT by rightinthemiddle (We Self-Destruct. We Blame Bush. That'll Show 'Em!)
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To: bigmac0707

Looks more like a bunch of dried earthworms.


4 posted on 10/12/2005 1:40:02 PM PDT by razoroccam (Then in the name of Allah, they will let loose the Germs of War (http://www.booksurge.com))
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"Prior to the discovery of noodles at Lajia, the earliest written record of noodles is traced to a book written during the East Han Dynasty sometime between AD 25 and 220, although it remained a subject of debate whether the Chinese, the Italians, or the Arabs invented it first.

I had heard long ago, that Marco Polo was the person who brought the noodle to Italy after one of his trips to China.

5 posted on 10/12/2005 1:40:26 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: bigmac0707

Gives a whole new meaning to the term "science fair project".


6 posted on 10/12/2005 1:40:31 PM PDT by manwiththehands ( "France and chicken, somehow it just goes together.")
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To: bigmac0707

Interesting!

Are we sure those aren't tapeworms, tho? Eeeewwww.....


7 posted on 10/12/2005 1:40:50 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: bigmac0707
Yeah, but how do they taste? What would be really cool is to cook them up and serve them with mammoth meat and the Tyrannosaurus jerky they found last year.
8 posted on 10/12/2005 1:41:17 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: Tijeras_Slim

I had a friend in college who, when stoned, would sprinkle the uncooked ramen noodle block with the dry seasoning mix, then place it between two slices of white bread and eat it.


9 posted on 10/12/2005 1:41:28 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: dead

Yikes! Fortunately, I went to college in the B.R. (Before Ramen) era, or else I might have done something similar.


10 posted on 10/12/2005 1:43:10 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Now that taglines are cool, I refuse to have one.)
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Late Neolithic noodles:

'Top Ramen' joke in 5...4...3...2...

11 posted on 10/12/2005 1:43:14 PM PDT by Riley ("Bother" said Pooh, as he fired the Claymores.)
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Maybe I'm a bit ignorant, but isn't "Italians" a bit too modern a term, anyway? Was there actually any Italy before the Dark Ages? Before the turn of the Roman Republic? I'm thinking if you're arguing thousands of years, there aren't any Italians to argue about and it's all moot!


12 posted on 10/12/2005 1:43:36 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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Not even close to the oldest noodles. These guys need to come see my refrigerator.


13 posted on 10/12/2005 1:44:19 PM PDT by vollmond (Careful with that axe, Eugene!)
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To: Riley

You too late....you too late!


14 posted on 10/12/2005 1:44:46 PM PDT by rightinthemiddle (We Self-Destruct. We Blame Bush. That'll Show 'Em!)
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"The 50cm-long, yellow strands were found in a pot that had probably been buried during a catastrophic flood. "


So, a million years from now some scientist will dig up petrified jambalaya?
15 posted on 10/12/2005 1:45:15 PM PDT by A knight without armor
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To: rightinthemiddle

I guess I type too slowly. Saw it coming though...


16 posted on 10/12/2005 1:45:26 PM PDT by Riley ("Bother" said Pooh, as he fired the Claymores.)
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"Our data demonstrate that noodles were probably initially made from species of domesticated grasses native to China

ewwwwwwwww
17 posted on 10/12/2005 1:46:00 PM PDT by PaulaB (The Clock Is Ticking....Listen To Your Heart)
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Oldest noodles unearthed in China

Then how come the package says '3 minutes in the microwave!' on the outside?

18 posted on 10/12/2005 1:46:27 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is merely Nazism without the snappy fashion sense.)
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To: bigmac0707

"Oldest noodles...."

I thought it was a story about Robert Byrd.


19 posted on 10/12/2005 1:46:39 PM PDT by rightinthemiddle (We Self-Destruct. We Blame Bush. That'll Show 'Em!)
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To: A knight without armor

Hey, that looks like what i was served last night in my favorite Chinese restaurant!


20 posted on 10/12/2005 1:46:42 PM PDT by Vintage1
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