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Announcing Free Republic's MARCH for JUSTICE II, April 7, 2005, Washington, D.C.!!
Free Republic | March 15, 2005 | Kristinn, Jim Robinson

Posted on 03/15/2005 10:03:13 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Edited on 03/15/2005 10:05:05 PM PST by Jim Robinson. [history]

In October 1998, Free Republic marched on Washington demanding the impeachment of Bill Clinton. Thanks to our efforts, Clinton was impeached less than two months later.

Then, as now, our country stood at a Constitutional crossroad. This year we stand at the crossroad of what kind of judiciary we will have: One that is restrained by the Constitution, or one that abridges our rights by making it up as they go along.

President Bush and the Republicans in the Senate are gearing up for a showdown with the Democrats over his judicial nominees. The Democrats have used the filibuster in an unprecedented way to block judicial nominees from getting an up or down vote. Republicans, led by Majority Leader Bill Frist are getting ready to employ the Constitutional option--most likely in mid-April.

A simple majority is needed to implement the Constitutional option. However, even with a 55 vote majority, a victory by the Republicans is in doubt. Democrats, unswayed by their ever-diminishing numbers in the Senate, have threatened to almost totally shut down the Senate if the Republicans succeed.

The Democrats are desperate because the judiciary is their last hope to force their liberal, unconstitutional agenda on the American people. If the filibuster is broken, they know that President Bush will be able to nominate and get confirmed Supreme Court justices in the mold of Scalia and Thomas. If the filibuster holds, we'll get justices like Anthony Kennedy who look to foreign law and opinion to support their unconstitutional rulings.

Therefore, in order to support President Bush's judicial nominees, and to put the Senate and the courts on notice that We the People demand the Constitution be respected and maintained, we will march on Washington on Thursday, April 7, 2005.

We will rally at Upper Senate Park, directly across the Capitol between Constitution Avenue and Union Station, from 11 a.m. to 2 p.m.

Immediately after the rally, we will march on the offices of all 100 senators in groups of state citizens to impress upon them the seriousness of our cause.

We will be working to bring other conservative groups in to co-sponsor the rally. Speakers and co-sponsors will be announced as they confirm.

We will need to raise funds for the rally. The estimated cost is $8,000. Capitol Police rules do not allow us to seek donations at the rally, so we will have to raise the funds before. Click here to help out.

Lord willing, I'll be making the trip from California to D.C. for the rally. It's short notice, but this is too important to stand back. Our rights are at stake. Defend them now, or watch a justice like Anthony Kennedy look to foreign law and opinion one day to take away your Second Amendment and other rights.


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KEYWORDS: activism; judicialnominees; marchforjusticeii; meninblack; scotus
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To: Jim Robinson
How generous of my fellow Pennsylvanians!!!!

Go PA!!!!

521 posted on 03/18/2005 12:32:34 AM PST by TAdams8591 (The call you make may be the one that saves Terri's life!!!!!!)
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To: 4integrity
Thanks. Glad you liked that. :^D

522 posted on 03/18/2005 2:05:01 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Rca2000
I am here in the Cincy, OH Area, is there a group I could get a ride with, and is lodging arranged? OR-- I have a minivan, and it could seat 6 or 7(If I get the electronic items out, and replace the back seat) And maybe I could drive a load of Freepers there, if need be, with a little gas donation from each

You'll need to arrange your own lodging, although there may be a central hotel or two as plans move forward. Concerning your ride sharing, I recommend you post your announcement on the Ohio forum (if you don't know where that is, click on the Ohio flag on your profile).

523 posted on 03/18/2005 4:04:00 AM PST by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: Jim Robinson

Thank's Jim, I just copied the one of the FR homepage.

Good Luck in D.C.!
Don't forget to post pictures!


524 posted on 03/18/2005 5:15:24 AM PST by Dr. Marten (gei wo ziyou, haishi gei wo si wan!)
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To: Dr. Marten

Morning bump


525 posted on 03/18/2005 6:20:48 AM PST by bmwcyle (Washington DC RINO Hunting Guide)
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To: Jim Robinson
$25 from Florida.

Let Freedom Ring! $:-)

Click the Florida state flag for pro-gun resources!

526 posted on 03/18/2005 6:26:14 AM PST by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism.)
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To: Joe Brower

A Firday evening BTTT.

C'mon folks, St. Paddy's Day is over. Hangovers should be a memory. Look lively out there, me lads and lasses!


527 posted on 03/18/2005 8:34:10 PM PST by exit82 (You see, I've been to the desert on a horse with no name--then I found FreeRepublic.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I have posted to the Virginia list, but in case...If anyone is going from the Hampton Roads, VA area, I'd love to go with a group. Also, anyone from way out of state--I'm familiar with the area and happy to help you get info about lodging and such.

It's been a hard week.


528 posted on 03/18/2005 9:34:34 PM PST by SoVaDPJ (There is no Constitutional right to "not have your feelings hurt.")
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To: hole_n_one

I can see authority implementing plastic, strip-ties to anyone wearing red.


529 posted on 03/18/2005 10:49:47 PM PST by Marshall1
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To: exit82

"Look lively out there, me lads and lasses!"

LOL, happy (belated) St. Pat's day to you! Bayonne is just having it's parade tomorrow. I will certainly bestir myself to go up to the corner and watch it.

I'm seriously considering going to this march. It would give me a great excuse to impose myself on my college dwelling daughter for a day. She's got no classes fridays, so I think that would work out annoyingly well, from mom's perspective anyway.

Are any Jersey freepers going? Are you? Will the cherry blossoms be in bloom? I've always wanted to see those.

Should I try and talk hubby into coming? Probably not!


530 posted on 03/19/2005 11:20:47 AM PST by jocon307
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion; Mudboy Slim; kristinn; Jim Robinson
I've made my arrangements and will be there. I'm preparing a fire-breathing speech against the five "imperial" Justices for the Rally. One question: will there be, and shouldn't there be, some kind of demonstration with appropriate placards, on the steps of the Supreme Court itself?

I gather that we cannot get a permit to hold the Rally and have the speeches right there. But the right to picket on the open sidewalk, with the facade of the Court as a photographic backdrop is, I understand, basic and available. This could occupy perhaps 20 minutes between the formal Rally and the visits to the Senatorial offices. (In the afternoon, the sun angle will be perfect for photography of that.)

Just a suggestion.

Lastly, I've already lined up the opportunity to speak live on the air to Jerry Agar in Kansas City in the morning, and to Sean Hannity in the afternoon.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column, "Condi Rice & Pierce Flanigan's Father's Hat"

531 posted on 03/19/2005 6:27:43 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (Proud to be a FORMER member of the Bar of the US Supreme Court since July, 2004.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Hmmm...

I tend to agree - the word "March" has been worn out by the libs - and is superfluous? It will obviously be a 'march."

Maybe something like:

Justice(s) for U.S.

or

JU.S.TICE(S)

Simplicity, "catchy-ness" for press, etc...signifies "US" (the People) and U.S., not Euro-peon law....

532 posted on 03/20/2005 6:22:29 AM PST by maine-iac7 (."...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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To: Jim Robinson

short notice, but I will contribute, if I cannot attend.


533 posted on 03/20/2005 6:44:56 AM PST by 26lemoncharlie (Sit nomen Dómini benedíctum,Ex hoc nunc, et usque in sæculum! per ómnia saecula saeculórum)
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To: Jim Robinson
I fully support your rally! Not every body is sleeping when the Supreme Court has usurped the legislature's role in making laws in the country.

The best way to curb judicial activism is to pass a constitutional amendment limiting the power of the judiciary to declare a law unconstitutional to not more than 30 years. When a statute has been in the books for more than 30 years and the Supreme Court has not decided its unconstitutionality, the Supreme Court will be prohibited from declaring that statute unconstitutional.

A constitutional amendment is not the solution for the practice of judicial activism by the judiciary. A constitutional amendment requires large majorities to effect. Even if such large majorities were mustered, it still does not solve the problem. A constitutional law is difficult to amend. It will take generations of legal experimentation to find the best combination of constitutional principles to check the judiciary's role in not overstepping themselves to become a separate and independent legislative body not subject to the normal check and balances which the two other branches of government are subject to.

What is needed is a simple law passed by the federal legislature placing a period of prescription on the power of the Supreme Court to declare a statute passed by Congress as unconstitutional. This period of prescription is tentatively proposed to be 30 years.

You see, the purpose of giving the Supreme Court power to review the laws passed by Congress is not only to serve as a check on legislative power but also a check on the wisdom of the members in Congress. The only way to know how good a law is through its experience in actual legal cases filed in court with regards to the implementation of such law. Congress may rack its brains to pass the best law, but the test of the efficacy of the law is really on how it fares in the courts. Hence the court is the best agent to decide on this.

However, when a law has been in the books for more than 30 years, it means that all its defects has been fully explored and this defects also includes its relation to the constitutional itself. 30 years is sufficient time to know whether a law is really good or not. If the Supreme Court fails to declare a statute that has been a uncontested law for more than 30 years, as unconstitutional, the power to declare that statute unconstitutional must prescribe. Therefore, after 30 years, only Congress could repeal such law even if the Supreme Court believes such law to be unconstitutional.

If the Supreme Court declares a statute that has remained uncontested for more than 30 years as unconstitutional, this declaration of the Supreme Court will have no legal effect in nullifying the law. After 30 years, the Supreme Court may advise Congress that the law is unconstitutional but it may not impose its will on Congress nor the people.

Congress may decide to listen to the recommendations of the Supreme Court or it may choose not to listen. After 30 years, the responsibility of keeping the statute in accordance with the Constitution lies exclusively with Congress. The Supreme Court may no longer be able to declare the statute unconstitutional.

Why is a statute better than a constitutional amendment to limit the power of the Supreme Court to declare a statute unconstitutional? A statute is much easier to amend than a constitutional law. If a statute is found to be defective, it is much easier to amend the statute by a simple majority or plurality of votes by members of Congress. However, a constitutional law is much more difficult to amend than a statute. If a constitutional amendment is found to be defective, it will take a long time, maybe centuries, before that defective constitutional law is corrected. In the mean time, the people and the government have to bear with that constitutional law's defects.

The possibility of judges to act as judicial activists has long been anticipated by the framers of the American constitution. That is why in order for the Supreme Court to declare a law unconstitutional, a three fourths majority vote is required.

Because of this three fourths majority vote required by the Constitution, the possibility of the judiciary acting as a separate and independent legislative body has been diminished. Judicial activism is only a rare phenomenon when it comes to the day to day activities of the Supreme Court.

But when the Supreme Court manages to muster this three fourths majority, the Supreme Court becomes a powerful branch in the government, with the power to unmake any law it pleases. With three fourths majority, the Supreme Court can legalize child pornography and even drugs. With three fourths majority, it can become an uncontrolled tyrant in government.

The only check and balance to counter the Supreme Court's tyranny is a change in the Constitution. But it requires three fourths majority in Congress to effect a constitutional amendment. Three fourths majority in the Supreme Court and only one fourth majority in Congress is all that is needed for the Supreme Court to turn around any law that it does not like.

You can see the tyranny of the Supreme Court in the recent pornography and abortion cases it has decided. The majority of the members of Congress are against the decisions of the Supreme Court when it comes to pornography and abortion, but Congress cannot do anything to check the actions of the Supreme Court since in its decisions on pornography and abortion it mustered the required three fourths majority.

If the Supreme Court should say that child pornography and drugs should be made legal, it only requires the consent of one fourth of the members of Congress to impose its will on the government. Even if there is an uproar in Congress, for as long as one fourth of the members of Congress believe that the actions of the Supreme Court in declaring drugs and child pornography as legal is good for the nation, there is nothing that Congress nor the people could legally do in resisting the will of the Supreme Court.

The Constitution failed to take into account this contingency when the three fourth majority is met by the Supreme Court in declaring a law unconstitutional. The only way to breach this defect in constitutional law is to put a period of prescription in which the Supreme Court may declare a law as unconstitutional. This period of prescription is 30 years. During this period, the courts have ample time to really test the law, not to say its blending with the fundamental law of the land which is the constitution. 30 years is sufficient time for the courts to find any defect in the law, including the possibility that the law may be in conflict with the Constitution.

This period of prescription of 30 years limiting the power of the Supreme Court to declare any law unconstitutional is one way of limiting judicial abuse of power.

During the Congressional debates on abortion, many legislators proposed the right of states argument to limit the power of the Supreme Court to decide on the abortion issue. The fundamental principle of a federal government is the right of the states to enact its own statutes without interference from the federal government. Unless the problem of limiting the power of the Supreme Court in the face of obvious abuse is first tackled, all these state rights theory advanced by some constitutional theoreticians would be difficult to place in practice.

Once the Supreme Court is finally prevented from overthrowing a statute that has remained uncontested for more than 30 years, the issue of state rights will bear substance. When the Supreme Court is finally stopped from interfering in the acts of the legislature, this is where the issue of state rights will come in. What is legal is what the legislature has declared to be legal for as long as such law were not challenged by the Supreme Court for 30 years. The Supreme Court will have to respect the legislative acts of the states for as long as the constitutional period of prescription is met by the various state legislatures. It cannot whimsically impose its will on the member states because it believes otherwise than what the state legislators believes.

The issue of state rights presupposes that the state could make any law without interference from the federal government. But the branch of the federal government interfering with the right of the state to enact laws is not the federal legislature but the federal supreme court.

The controversial decisions of the United States Supreme Court in the areas of abortion, pornography, school prayers, homosexuality, etc. will serve in the future as an impetus for profound constitutional changes in the American constitution. A vociferous segment of the population have openly questioned the wisdom of the Supreme Court decisions.

Right now those who are supporting the legalization of abortion, pornography, homosexual marriages are happy with the Supreme Court's decision, but they will certainly become unhappy when the Supreme Court finally reverses itself on these decisions. The mere fact that the Supreme Court has declared these things legal does not mean to say that it would be legal forever. Law is just a reflection of what a person believes to be good for society. Sooner or later, judges will sit in the Supreme Court with the belief that pornography, abortion, homosexual marriages are not good for society and would definitely put down laws that make these things legal. Those who believe that pornography, abortion, homosexual marriages are good for society would definitely be calling these judges as tyrants because their decisions do not please them.
534 posted on 03/20/2005 7:51:48 AM PST by Ramonchito
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To: Ramonchito

nah! The time limit should be on the SCOTUS judges individually---the problem starts when they find a home on the bench then start getting clever. TERM LIMITS will solve most of those kinds of problems----12 years works for me.


535 posted on 03/20/2005 10:45:24 AM PST by cherokee1
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To: Congressman Billybob

Thank you, Congressman Billybob! Sounds great!! See you there!!

Here are the donations received in the last couple days:

$50 from Wyoming
$10 monthly from North Carolina
$100 from Texas
$10 from Never Never Land
$20 from Texas
$20 from Norway
$25 from Florida

Thank you all very much!!


536 posted on 03/20/2005 12:49:21 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: jocon307

Great! See you there!!


537 posted on 03/20/2005 12:50:46 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

I live in Freddyburg. I'll be there =)


538 posted on 03/20/2005 2:56:49 PM PST by Mortikhi
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To: Zivasmate

I agee. How about "Death to Tyrants March."


539 posted on 03/20/2005 3:50:08 PM PST by attiladhun2
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To: attiladhun2

As I understand it, the point of the march is to elect or select conservative judges. That's why they want to call it "march for justice." My problem, as I expressed, is that it sounds like a march being led by sharpton and Jackson and the rest of those clowns on issues they consider matters of justice.

I just think calling it "march for judges" or something like that, would get the message across better.


540 posted on 03/20/2005 4:21:40 PM PST by Zivasmate (" A wise man's heart inclines him to his right, but a fool's heart to his left." - Ecclesiastes 10)
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