Posted on 02/11/2005 9:43:07 AM PST by robowombat
Teacher Charged With Having Sex With 13-Year-Old Student
Wednesday, Feb. 9, 2005 McMINNVILLE, Tenn. - An elementary school teacher has been charged with having sex with one of her students, a 13-year-old boy, at his home and at school, authorities said Tuesday.
Pamela Turner, 27, was charged Monday with 15 counts of sexual battery by an authority figure and 13 counts of statutory rape for acts between November and January. Story Continues Below
Turner, who teaches physical education at Centertown Elementary, lived at the boy's house "for a brief period of time when she was moving from residence to residence," Warren County prosecutor Dale Potter said. The boy's parents did not know anything about the relationship, he said. Potter said Turner was arrested Monday in Clarkrange, her hometown about 55 miles northeast of McMinnville in central Tennessee.
Conviction on all counts could be punished by up to 100 years in prison. But Potter said it was more likely that a conviction would mean a minimum of a year to several years in prison.
Turner is free on $50,000 bond. She's been placed on leave by the school system.
A telephone message left at the home of her father, who lives in Clarkrange, was not immediately returned Tuesday evening.
Turner's husband filed for divorce in January, alleging inappropriate marital conduct, according to the Southern Standard newspaper in McMinnville.
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First, I reproduce a post I made at the end of the thread on February 11th:
My predictions for this boy's future:
1. He is going to turn out just fine.
2. He knew what he was "getting" - and he _loved_ it. He probably wants _more_.
3. He is the envy of most _other_ boys his age at school.
4. He is likely going to become quite popular with the ladies in a few years.
The following article appeared in The New York Post on Sunday, February 13th. I have added emphasis where appropriate:
ARTICLE FOLLOWS:
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McMinnville, Tenn. - The torrid "affair" between a stunning teacher and a 13-year-old student began with innocent online chats, but ended with the teen losing his verginity and temptress obsessed with her boy toy, the teen's best friend said.
Justin Grisson, 19, says Pamela Turner - a gorgeous, 27-year-old gym teacher and basketball coach at Centertown Elementary who was arrested last week on 28 sex charges - threw herself at his pal. The Post is withholding the name of the underage victim.
"he was a virgin," said Grissom, who has known the teen since they were tots. "he never had sex. She was into him more; it was her who pursued him."
The woman in the case is a blond bombshell who three years ago donned a sexy bikini to pose with a Harley in a newspaper ad for a local motorcycle shop.
Her strange relationship started one afternoon after school in early November, Grissom said, while Grissom was at his friend's house and the two sat at the computer in the teen's bedroom.
Up to that point, Grissom said, his friend and Turner had only exchanged friendly instant messages. But he said he saw them cross the line for the first time with an exchange in which Turner wrote: "I think you're cute."
"We started laughing because we thought she was joking," Grissom recalled.
"What should I write back?" the 13-year-old asked his friend.
"I think you're hot," the teen replied in his instant message.
The chat ignited an illicit three-month affair during which, authorities charged, Turner and the teen had intercourse and oral sex more than a dozen times.
The illicit trysts took place not only inside the home Turner rented after her husband, 31-year-old Chris Turner, filed for divorce, but also at the teenagers house and even at school, cops say.
Ironically, Turner was supposed to be looking out for the teenager - who played school basketball, just as she did in her younger days. Her husband, the basketball coach at Warren County HS, had asked her to keep and eye on the eigth-grader because he expected him to start on the varsity team when he arrived at high school.
According to authorities, she kept more than an eye on him.
But the teenager was hardly an unwilling participant, according to his friend.
"He loved every minute of it," Grissom says. "He's a little pimp."
Grissom said his pal dumped a girlfriend his own age to spend more time with Turner.
Grissom spent one afternoon with Turner and his pal together in their school - where Turner admitted to Grissom she had sex with his friend.
"we were in the gym and she asked me, 'Did [the boy] tell you we had sex?' I said yes and she said, 'We did.'"
Grissom was shocked, but didn't say any more to Turner about the situation. He claims that soon after, Turner began calling his best friend "five to six" times a night, but his pal was simply having fun.
"He was in it for the sex," Grissom said.
The boy's mom says the vixen teacher stayed over at their house a few times during the affair with her son - claiming her water heater was broken in the house she was renting nearby. She moved there after Chris Turner filed for divorce on Jan. 14 for "improper marital conduct."
"She was very charming," the teen's mother says. "I had no reason not to trust her."
But word spread like wildfire around Centertown, and cops got an anonymous tip.
Billy Medley, the owner of Medley's Diner across from Turner's school, said the boy with whom Turner alledgedly had sex "is no ordinary 13-year-old."
"He was probably shaving in the seventh grade," Medley said. "He's about 5-foot-9 and he hangs out with an older crowd. You wouldn't think he was 13."
The boy's mom has pulled him out of school, saying he'll go back "only if and when he is ready."
Turner has been holed up at her father's chicken farm since her Feb. 7 arrest. She is free on $50,000 bond.
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John speaking again:
This "boy" was NO "victim". He was an active partner in the relationship once it began. And, to reiterate what the young man (for he can no longer be seen as a "boy", but now is a consummated young _man_ with a touch of "mojo" to boot!) conveyed to his friend, "he loved every minute of it" (what did I write a couple of days before this was reported?), and, "he was in it for the sex". If anything, once the passion was steaming, the young man was taking advantage of the woman - not the other way around!
Yes, there _is_ a "double-standard" regarding younger/older sex, as HitManNY explained so well in earlier postings. So it has been since time began, and so it will be, as long as males are males and females are females. It is the way things are.
I sense that - as the years go by - this kid will grow up with fond memories of his "initiation" into the ways of women and sexuality. What man _would not_ look back on his "first rites" with a beautiful woman with some wistfulness and longing? And I also sense that he will lead a sexual life that, um, is more interesting than the majority of us experience (laughs). As I said, he now has "mojo". The other young women who know him will look at him - and at the woman who tempted him - and wonder, "what does he have that made such a beautiful woman _want_ him so passionately?" And I'll wager that a few of them will seek him out, trying to find out for themselves exactly what those "qualities" of his character are!
Yes, the double-standard exists.
And, as voiced by so many _other_ male posters here, why didn't a beautiful woman like that find _me_ back in my salad days???
Cheers!
- John
Just like I thought.
That kid did EXACTLY what I would have done given the sheer "hottiness" of that teacher.
I hope all the holier-than-thou's on this board learned a little perspective.
Spoken like a true male freeper with no moral compass whatsoever that is required for raising healthy and chast children.
God made us to be chast with one person for life. I don't get the attitude of many male freepers on this. Maybe single girls are turned on by this kind of attitude but I wouldn't want a man with this kind of attitude raising my children. It just isn't a christian attitude.
Yes but if you listen to many men on this thread it could be an enriching experience :(
To be fair, I think the average young man at that age asnd in that situation would be more than just a little fear of the situation, just because of how raw it is, and how unusual the situation is.
I think most would end up indulging for the reason you mention. That being said, if she did what she said she did, she broke the law, and is more than just a little batty, and will be held accountable.
Any adult woman who seeks a sexual outlet with a 13 year old boy has less control issues and more mental issues, I think.
I totally agree with you. Men like to justify this behavior as being biological--they are just being men, after all. but honestly, its disgusting and I have to seriously question the values of any woman involved with a man like these exhibited on the board.
Note--the article posted earlier does not interview the actual child, but an older friend who he no doubt felt compelled to brag to. Maybe the boy did love every second of it, but that does not mean there will be no consequences. Kids love lots to do lots of things they should not do.
exactly
I see you’re new, so I should cut you some slack. But if you’re a slow learner or just like to argue, keep doing what you’re doing ;^)
I don't doubt that God intended for the male-female coupling to be the standard and that they should be sexually chaste.
That being said, there is also no denying that males have a very strong instinct to enjoy physical sex with a variety of attractive women. Women have an instinct for sexual variety too, but it's not nearly as prominent - their instinct, ultimately, is to form an emotional bond with a male and then couple with them both physically and emotionally. Males come to that party late, but in time do domesticate to fit that vision.
I once freaked out a typical angry feminist type, boxing her into a corner she never expected. We were discussing sexuality and men, and of course she had a ton of hangups regarding males, sexual behavior, and sex roles.
Basically, I think that the presence and interaction of women domesticates men for the kind of relationships you are talking about (which are best, most fulfilling, and serve public policy better).
I was discussing how the dominant male instinct is to have as much sex as possible with the widest variety of women, with as little consequence and cost as possible, and truth be told the emotional bond and related issues (like even liking the woman, or even knowing her)weren't instinctively important to men.
As an example of this male instinct run amok, I gave the example of the male homosexual community. It's a sexual world uncluttered by the feminine outlook on sex roles, so what happens? Men do all the playing with each other and naturally make self-satisfying rules of engagement that serve their male instincts: that is, lots of sexual variety, not a lot of emotional entaglements, the sexual coupling rituals are more casual and fleeting, and an emphasis on physical gratification (crossing over into debasement) is paramount.
So when you read about that new strand of AIDS in NYC this week, and that the guy who got it is in his mid-40s, single male, and how he has had many sexual partners since this past October (dozens or more), realize that he is not acting on any unique 'gay' quality, but rather on his sexual instincts as a male for variety and uncluttered sexual gratification.
The all-male gay community created a world of sexual rules and rituals where only the male instinct was their guide. The result, I think, is nihilistic, narcissistic, debasing, degenerate, selfish, and dangerous.
The lesbian community, on balance, traditionally does not have this voracious sexual appetite when it comes to their coupling patterns. Hmmmm.....could it be that they are women and naturally seek more of an emotional bond and less of a fleeting physical bond?????
So I explained to her that that aspect of the gay male community's behavior has almost nothing to do with them being gay, but rather much more to do with them being males and crafting a sexual atmosphere and rules of coupling that reflects the dominant male view of sex. The female perspective, needs, and outlook never tempered their instincts. The result is a disaster.
That freaked her out but she had no retort - on one hand, I validated all those nasty things she felt about men, but by using the example of one of her favorite minority groups. As I say, every day and every way, I am glad I don't think like a leftist!
I just don't get all the high fiving over this though. You don't see all of that going on when it's man and a teenager OR when the woman isn't attractive. We are not just biology. Human beings are more than that.
That's certainly a valid point--but i think their behavior also has something to do with a lack of a moral compass, not strictly their gender. But the bottom line is, I have strong instincts to do lots of things--rear end idiots who cut me off, tell people I can't stand to shut up, eat like a glutton, etc...but I don't do them because they are wrong and have serious consequences. We are seperated from the animal kingdom because we can actually control our urges. As I stated in a previous post, I know many men who are not even tempted by the idea of sex unless it is with someone they love. Its a matter of character in my book, not biology.
My 6th grade Social Studies teacher was very hot...and very...let's just say, "willing".
I basically agree with you, but I explained why it's different and why men look at this cavalierly in a long post I did on Friday, # 170-something.
The young boy lived a very common male sexual fantasy. In fact, the woman in the story looks like the star of many common sexual fantasies - tall, blonde, leggy, young, fit, and of course, sexually agressive and accomodating.
The reason there is no high-fiving if it's an adult male and a young teenage girl is because both men and women find that kind of union creepy. The reason there is no high-fiving if the woman were physically unappealing is because both men and women find nothing sexually appealing in the situation.
The reason there is hig-fiving on the part of men is because the woman is much better looking than the wide majority of women, and that instinctively, males really enjoy the idea of having repeated sexual trysts with women who look like her, with no downside of a relationship, emotional bond, etc.
It isn't that difficult to understand, really. Acting like that difference doesn't exist isn't productive, and in any case, you are right - human beings are more than just their sexual instincts. The instincts I am describing are not a license for men to be rude, crude, offensive, nor seriously endorse deviant sexual behavior.
funny, i find unions like this one just as creepy!
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