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A PHOTOGRAPHIC EVIDENCE OF THE FRAUD IN KING COUNTY (PASS IT ON)
Sound Politics (blog) ^ | Brian Crouch

Posted on 12/23/2004 10:46:57 PM PST by alessandrofiaschi



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To: Nakatu X
In manual recounts, BOTH sides should gain votes

Time for freepers in pajamas to get to work. Does anyone know how often someone lost votes in a manual recount anywhere, anytime ? If this is the first ever, then we might have a news story.

221 posted on 12/25/2004 9:05:58 PM PST by staytrue (Thank you Freepers for delaying border control discussion until after Nov. 2)
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To: holyscroller
I saw one ballot that had the oval circled for Gregoire but not a mark in it. (It was a circle drawn around the oval, but not in it or touching it, and the oval was not filled in). I would have preferred to have it be an undervote (a vote for nobody), but the Democrat had a fit and said it was clearly a vote for Gregoire, so it went to the canvassing board, who no doubt agreed with the Dem.

Voter intent is irrelevant unless the voter intended to mark the ballot in the manner prescribed by law. If the oval was circled, the voter clearly intended to do something other than what the law required, and so the ballot should be rejected.

222 posted on 12/25/2004 10:21:28 PM PST by supercat (To call the Constitution a 'living document' is to call a moth-infested overcoat a 'living garment'.)
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To: Poser
I'd have to see the rest of the ballot, but if the voter marked the black rectangles on the side of the page for the other candidates, this is clearly a vote for Gregiore.

Nonsense. If the oval were filled in but the voter went a little outside the line, one could reasonably posit that the voter was trying to fill in the oval precisely but lacked the coordination to do so. in this case, the voter clearly intended to mark the ballot in a manner other than the legally-prescribed one. Consequently, the ballot is void.

There have been elections in Illinois which turned upon whether a box with a check box in it (instead of an "X") counts as a vote. It does not. The voter's preferred candidate may be clear, but if the voter doesn't cast the vote properly it doesn't count.

223 posted on 12/25/2004 10:24:51 PM PST by supercat (To call the Constitution a 'living document' is to call a moth-infested overcoat a 'living garment'.)
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To: supercat

"Nonsense. If the oval were filled in but the voter went a little outside the line, one could reasonably posit that the voter was trying to fill in the oval precisely but lacked the coordination to do so. in this case, the voter clearly intended to mark the ballot in a manner other than the legally-prescribed one. Consequently, the ballot is void."

You are sentencing a whole bunch of old people to not having their votes count. They can't see the little circles. I'm not referring to a few. I'm referring to large numbers. When I teach elderhostel, about half of the seniors cannot pick buttons and links out on a computer screen. They need BIG views with high contrast.

Personally, I don't think a technicality should rule out a vote by a qualified voter who made the vote clear. As long as the rules are the same for everybody, it's fair.

If it's not clear, it shouldn't be counted. If it is clear, count it. (IMHO)


224 posted on 12/26/2004 6:51:13 AM PST by Poser (Joining Belly Girl in the Pajamahadeen)
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To: Nakatu X

Assuming data accurate - Not quite fraud? OK - I'll buy that. But the cost is that whoever claimed that was a vote needs to hand in their drivers license. They are either blind or corrupt. Jail or blind.

Quite frankly, given that this is an attempted coup, hanging would not be innappropriate. The purpetrators of the Washington State fraud are anti-Democratic (note - the Democratic party is not Democratic) operatives who are destroying the foundation of the country. Stretching out a rope a bit at their expense would be a good thing.

Whoever called this a vote should be tarred and feathered at the least.

Diva's Husband


225 posted on 12/26/2004 11:19:27 AM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (I am not NOT PC.. And Proud of it!: Merry Christmas! Happy Hanukkah!)
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To: alessandrofiaschi

AMAZING ! FRAUD! FRAUD!! FRAUD!!!

THEY ARE STEALING THE ELECTION IN BROAD DAYLIGHT.

I AM OUTRAGED!! I AM ANGRY!!


226 posted on 12/27/2004 9:47:41 AM PST by Jack Black
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To: Poser
You are sentencing a whole bunch of old people to not having their votes count. They can't see the little circles. I'm not referring to a few. I'm referring to large numbers. When I teach elderhostel, about half of the seniors cannot pick buttons and links out on a computer screen. They need BIG views with high contrast.

The solution to that problem is not to throw out required marking standards for ballots, but rather to provide equipment that anyone can use to mark ballots properly (e.g. go into specian "assisted" booth, insert ballot, punch buttons in response to either large on-screen messages or headphone-delivered audio prompts, and then have the machine mark the choices on the ballot).

To rule that ballots can be marked in any way other than the indicated method and still count is to render machine counts worthless and turn the election into a free-for-all.

227 posted on 12/27/2004 6:55:28 PM PST by supercat (To call the Constitution a 'living document' is to call a moth-infested overcoat a 'living garment'.)
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To: superskunk
Not a clear image. Also, different from the PA punch card ballots.

Actually, various methods are used in PA. Many counties in PA use optical scanners, so we could end up with either hanging chads or this...or even worse, electronic hacking without a paper trail.

What a mess it is to try to maintain a republic with such an unethical and lawless populace.

228 posted on 12/30/2004 8:32:21 PM PST by Gondring (They can have my Bill of Rights when they pry it from my cold, dead hands!)
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To: Gondring
What a mess it is to try to maintain a republic with such an unethical and lawless populace.

How true! This country became great, in part, because of the ethical people who first established and operated it. Unethical people now threaten our great republic. If people will not obey the laws of decent society (provided they do not conflict with the constitution), then they must be vigorously prosecuted and severely punished.
229 posted on 12/30/2004 8:55:24 PM PST by superskunk (Quinn's Law: Liberalism always produces the exact opposite of it's stated intent.)
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