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India's 'lost Jews' wait in hope
BBC News ^ | August 18th, 2003 | Geeta Pandey

Posted on 08/19/2004 7:11:00 PM PDT by missyme

A team of senior Israeli rabbis is due to rule soon on whether thousands of Indians who say they are members of one of the lost tribes of Israel can settle there.

Only 5,000 of the Benei Menashes have converted to Judaism Shlomo Amar recently led a delegation of rabbis to the north-eastern Indian states of Manipur and Mizoram where members of the Benei Menashe tribe live and practise Judaism.

At the Beith-el Synagogue in the Manipur capital, Imphal, nine men wearing knitted skull caps read silently from the Old Testament.

Four others stand on a wooden platform in the centre of the room as a young man reads from the holy book under the supervision of an elderly priest.

These people claim to be one of the lost tribes of Israel.

Recent discovery

Tongkhohao Aviel Hangshing is the leader of the Benei Menashes in Imphal.

We found that the stories, the customs and practices of the Israeli people were very similar to ours

Tongkhohao Aviel Hangshing "We are Benei Menashe, because we belong to the Menashe tribe," he says.

"Menashe is the son of Joseph, who was one of the 12 sons of Jacob. So we are the lost tribe of Israel."

Mr Hangshing says for thousands of years they did not know they were lost.

"We found out only 27 years ago," he says.

"When the Bible was translated into our language, in 1970s, we studied it.

"And we found that the stories, the customs and practices of the Israeli people were very similar to ours. So we thought that we must be one of the lost tribes."

Saturdays are observed by Jews the world over as the Sabbath, the day of rest, and the members of the Benei Menashe community meet for morning prayers at the synagogue in Imphal.

A lamb-skin scroll of the Torah, is unrolled and then rolled up again as each reader finishes his part.

Hope

There are more than 300,000 Benei Menashes in Manipur but most of them follow Christianity.

Only about 5,000 have converted to Judaism, most of them during the 1970s.

Mr Hangshing says although India has treated them quite well, they do not consider it their home.

Lucy Vaiphei (right) is hoping to join her family in Israel The recent visit by a delegation of rabbis from Israel has given new hope to the members of this community.

Caleb, a 24-year-old college student, wants to go to Israel because he says it is the land of his forefathers.

Amram is studying to be a lawyer. He says Israel is the promised land, for him and the others too.

"In Israel it will be easier for us to practise our religion."

In a chamber partitioned from the main prayer hall, about a dozen women join in the Sabbath prayers.

Lucy Vaiphei is the caretaker of the synagogue.

Her parents and six siblings have emigrated to Israel in the last few years and she is now looking forward to making the move herself.

Michael Freund, director of Amishav - an organisation that helps Jews move to Israel - says he firmly believes that Menashe is one of the lost tribes of Israel.

"We have brought over 800 of them to Israel," he says, "and the remaining people also want to emigrate".

Mr Freund says that last year the new Israeli interior minister, Avraham Poraz, suddenly declared his opposition to bringing the Benei Menashes into Israel.

"But I'm confident that if the chief rabbi issues a ruling saying that the Benei Menashes are indeed descendents of the Jewish people and should be allowed back home, then he will have no choice but to let them in."

So while the rabbis in Israel take a decision on whether or not to grant the right to emigrate to Israel to the Benei Menashes, this community here is waiting with bated breath - and praying.


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To: William Terrell
Count the heads. . .two.

!!!!!!!!!

Whoops!

581 posted on 08/21/2004 11:59:36 AM PDT by happygrl
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To: Havoc
I didn't intend my post to be carrying water for racists.

I was only explaining how that notion come about erroneously.

Please see my repy to Cronos, post #376

582 posted on 08/21/2004 12:04:00 PM PDT by happygrl
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To: happygrl
Count the heads. . .two.

Yes, that was a mistake; I wasn't just talking about males.

583 posted on 08/21/2004 3:00:36 PM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: happygrl
Lineage is very unPC nowadays.

584 posted on 08/21/2004 3:02:06 PM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: happygrl

Supposedly it has begun.


585 posted on 08/21/2004 4:13:25 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: BlackVeil

Thank you for your kind words..I try to search out articles that I think people would enjoy and spark good debates....I really don't know what I have done to some freepers that want to attack me personally....I will try and not let it affect me negatively...


586 posted on 08/21/2004 5:16:29 PM PDT by missyme
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To: Pharmboy

Sheesh lay off grammar-nazi.


587 posted on 08/21/2004 8:48:26 PM PDT by Michael2001 (Every man lives, and every man dies, but not every man truly lives)
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To: USMMA_83

spots not feathers


588 posted on 08/21/2004 8:49:37 PM PDT by Michael2001 (Every man lives, and every man dies, but not every man truly lives)
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To: happygrl
If you've ever been on the African/Zimbabwean thread, you'll know the kind of vitriol directed at Africans of which I speak (or write).

True -- and that's so ignorant considering that Africa is not one mono-entity but consists of the North Africans who have mostly been associated with Europe for Millenia, and the east Africans like Ethiopia etc. who have had culture way before Europeans did. OF course, west and Southern Africa did lag behind a bit in civilisation, but just because someone's ancestors were great or not doesn't reflect on the descendents -- as Mussolini found out!
589 posted on 08/22/2004 12:00:27 AM PDT by Cronos (W2K4)
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To: Michael2001

...and who appointed you the thread-nazi?


590 posted on 08/22/2004 6:38:55 AM PDT by Pharmboy (History's greatest agent for freedom: The US Armed Forces)
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To: happygrl

tough...deal with it...life's rough...and some of us, namely me!, really could care less what offends you.


591 posted on 08/22/2004 9:30:02 PM PDT by USMMA_83
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To: Michael2001

not spots, but rather dots. Or, Indian not Injun.


592 posted on 08/22/2004 9:40:35 PM PDT by USMMA_83
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To: happygrl

Not to worry, just commenting on the issue in general. Nothing was aimed at you ;)


593 posted on 08/22/2004 11:21:53 PM PDT by Havoc (.)
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To: Chani

bttt


594 posted on 08/23/2004 10:00:01 AM PDT by Chani
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To: USMMA_83
It is considered profanity.

If you don't want to abide by the rules of FR, then don't post. I thought to allow you to respond in a way that reflected some class and character on your part. I see that you'd rather respond like a juvenile instead: "neener neener, you can't make me."

Fine. You can deal with the Admin Mods.

595 posted on 08/23/2004 10:39:01 AM PDT by happygrl
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To: happygrl

Since when is christsake considered profanity? Ok, let me also state that the world I'm from (retired US Navy, and former Navy Seal)...christsake is not profanity. In your world...God only knows what made up rules govern your life.


596 posted on 08/23/2004 8:31:40 PM PDT by USMMA_83
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To: missyme
Nope, not bunk. The descendants of kohanim who have been tested (from all over the world, including the Lemba tribe in Africa) have a marker ("Y A P haplotype" is what it's called, if memory serves) on their Y chromosome showing they're descended from the same man. Traditionally, they are all descended from Aaron, brother of Moses. This relationship rubbishes the "British Israelite" and other racist movements (for those who didn't previously regard them as rubbish) and also "The 13th Tribe", another book of rubbish which claims that European Jews are descended from converts, not from the Biblical tribes.
597 posted on 10/08/2004 12:57:40 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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Quest For The Lost Tribes Quest For The Lost Tribes
by Simcha Jacobovici

DVD-R version


598 posted on 10/08/2004 1:05:57 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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