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India's 'lost Jews' wait in hope
BBC News ^ | August 18th, 2003 | Geeta Pandey

Posted on 08/19/2004 7:11:00 PM PDT by missyme

A team of senior Israeli rabbis is due to rule soon on whether thousands of Indians who say they are members of one of the lost tribes of Israel can settle there.

Only 5,000 of the Benei Menashes have converted to Judaism Shlomo Amar recently led a delegation of rabbis to the north-eastern Indian states of Manipur and Mizoram where members of the Benei Menashe tribe live and practise Judaism.

At the Beith-el Synagogue in the Manipur capital, Imphal, nine men wearing knitted skull caps read silently from the Old Testament.

Four others stand on a wooden platform in the centre of the room as a young man reads from the holy book under the supervision of an elderly priest.

These people claim to be one of the lost tribes of Israel.

Recent discovery

Tongkhohao Aviel Hangshing is the leader of the Benei Menashes in Imphal.

We found that the stories, the customs and practices of the Israeli people were very similar to ours

Tongkhohao Aviel Hangshing "We are Benei Menashe, because we belong to the Menashe tribe," he says.

"Menashe is the son of Joseph, who was one of the 12 sons of Jacob. So we are the lost tribe of Israel."

Mr Hangshing says for thousands of years they did not know they were lost.

"We found out only 27 years ago," he says.

"When the Bible was translated into our language, in 1970s, we studied it.

"And we found that the stories, the customs and practices of the Israeli people were very similar to ours. So we thought that we must be one of the lost tribes."

Saturdays are observed by Jews the world over as the Sabbath, the day of rest, and the members of the Benei Menashe community meet for morning prayers at the synagogue in Imphal.

A lamb-skin scroll of the Torah, is unrolled and then rolled up again as each reader finishes his part.

Hope

There are more than 300,000 Benei Menashes in Manipur but most of them follow Christianity.

Only about 5,000 have converted to Judaism, most of them during the 1970s.

Mr Hangshing says although India has treated them quite well, they do not consider it their home.

Lucy Vaiphei (right) is hoping to join her family in Israel The recent visit by a delegation of rabbis from Israel has given new hope to the members of this community.

Caleb, a 24-year-old college student, wants to go to Israel because he says it is the land of his forefathers.

Amram is studying to be a lawyer. He says Israel is the promised land, for him and the others too.

"In Israel it will be easier for us to practise our religion."

In a chamber partitioned from the main prayer hall, about a dozen women join in the Sabbath prayers.

Lucy Vaiphei is the caretaker of the synagogue.

Her parents and six siblings have emigrated to Israel in the last few years and she is now looking forward to making the move herself.

Michael Freund, director of Amishav - an organisation that helps Jews move to Israel - says he firmly believes that Menashe is one of the lost tribes of Israel.

"We have brought over 800 of them to Israel," he says, "and the remaining people also want to emigrate".

Mr Freund says that last year the new Israeli interior minister, Avraham Poraz, suddenly declared his opposition to bringing the Benei Menashes into Israel.

"But I'm confident that if the chief rabbi issues a ruling saying that the Benei Menashes are indeed descendents of the Jewish people and should be allowed back home, then he will have no choice but to let them in."

So while the rabbis in Israel take a decision on whether or not to grant the right to emigrate to Israel to the Benei Menashes, this community here is waiting with bated breath - and praying.


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To: nopardons; missyme; CyberAnt; Hildy; doodlelady

I am going to invite missyme to the next San Diego FR event.


Please add missyme to our local ping lists.
Thanks.


321 posted on 08/19/2004 11:47:38 PM PDT by onyx (JohnKerry -- the standard bearer for the unbearable)
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To: freegle

Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh!


322 posted on 08/19/2004 11:48:20 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: USMMA_83
NEVER!
323 posted on 08/19/2004 11:48:57 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: onyx

I will be there! Invite me....I live in North County...


324 posted on 08/19/2004 11:49:31 PM PDT by missyme
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To: missyme
What does Saxon mean? It's means someone from Saxony,from a tribe of Germans. And to say that's its German for Isaac's son is silly -- the term in Hebrew would be Bin Yitzhak, son of Isaac, not Isaac's son.

Don't take a name in a modern language like English and try and corelate it with ancient tongues. Then Dan Bien Thu in Vietnam would signify, by that logic, that the Vietnamese are descendend from the tribe of Dan.
325 posted on 08/19/2004 11:49:34 PM PDT by Cronos (W2K4)
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To: Havoc; missyme

I'm married too...wife is reading that dang best seller...what's the name hon...ah yeah...Da Vinci Code, and making fun of me and this thread....to each his own.


326 posted on 08/19/2004 11:49:45 PM PDT by USMMA_83
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To: nopardons

I do always step on you something you finally said that's correct..How old are you?


327 posted on 08/19/2004 11:50:59 PM PDT by missyme
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To: freegle

CI considers the other races they call muds to be simply fodder and irrelevant.

They want the modern day Jews bad....Ahabian to be frank.

The whole thing is nutty as a squirrel's nest but rather dangerous. Think what 100 Tim McVeighs could do.

and worse.....they help the left....they play right into the stereotype of the hard right as portrayed by the left and hollywood and the media.


328 posted on 08/19/2004 11:51:03 PM PDT by wardaddy (My hair is turning white but my neck's always been red.)
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To: missyme

Funny...........YOU are the one who just claimed that you hoped that I would be at a FR function,so that you could see me. ROTFLOL


329 posted on 08/19/2004 11:51:06 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: missyme; nopardons
So what was the race of Noah? no-one knows that's the point...

Biblically speaking he was the second Adam -- all modern day humans are descended from Noah alone. So, that means that Noah would have been a composite Negroid-Mongoloid-Caucasoid, sort of a dark skinned person with almond shaped blue eyes and red hair! He was not of any one race.
330 posted on 08/19/2004 11:51:42 PM PDT by Cronos (W2K4)
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To: missyme

I shall.
I am sorry you missed the dinner we had for JimRob.
He came to SD for the USS RWR's sail into home port.
I;ll try to find you the link so you can see pics of some of us.


332 posted on 08/19/2004 11:52:26 PM PDT by onyx (JohnKerry -- the standard bearer for the unbearable)
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To: missyme
Semitic is a language gropup, NOT a race. Caucasians is a race and most semitic peoples are caucasian.



333 posted on 08/19/2004 11:52:58 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat)
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To: USMMA_83

MY husband is on his way home from the Airport, have to get off when he gets here, just when I was having so much fun with The Pie Hole lady


334 posted on 08/19/2004 11:53:18 PM PDT by missyme
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To: wardaddy
HOLY COW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And I think we have some of those people on FR;sadly.

335 posted on 08/19/2004 11:53:32 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons; missyme
And Noah's son Ham was "turned black",because he saw his father's uncovered genitalia,as his father snored away in a drunken stupor.

The bible says NOTHING of that sort. Hamites are NOT necessarily black -- the Canaanites are supposed to be descended from Ham, but these are located in what became Phoenicia and the Phoenicians most definitely were NOT Negroid. The Bible says NOTHING whatsoever about Ham turning "black", so don't build castles around suppositions
336 posted on 08/19/2004 11:53:35 PM PDT by Cronos (W2K4)
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To: Cronos; nopardons

Dumb question.

Modern Hebrew is written with aramiac letters right?

Does the sound reflect Aramaic or ancient Hebrew which was runes and not phonetic? Right?


337 posted on 08/19/2004 11:53:40 PM PDT by wardaddy (My hair is turning white but my neck's always been red.)
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To: Yehuda; rmlew; NYC GOP Chick; RaceBannon
ping



338 posted on 08/19/2004 11:54:05 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat)
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To: Cronos

:-)


339 posted on 08/19/2004 11:54:06 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

yea...i think a few jumped out on that Jews are 75% for Kerry thread the other day.


340 posted on 08/19/2004 11:55:05 PM PDT by wardaddy (My hair is turning white but my neck's always been red.)
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