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C-Span Now Playing O'Neill & Kerry Debate 1971
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Posted on 08/15/2004 3:00:17 PM PDT by gilliam

airing now c-Span

(Excerpt) Read more at c-span.org ...


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To: Mia T

Yes, I got the video. You also might be able to catch it on c-span.org (but I don't know). BTW, the transcript is linked at post #151.


521 posted on 08/16/2004 5:20:31 AM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: MeekOneGOP; traumer; Arrowhead1952; Conspiracy Guy

bump!


522 posted on 08/16/2004 5:23:37 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T
Leaving on His Jet Plane

Leaving on a Jet Plane



JohnDenver

All his records sealed, he’s ready to go.
He’s flipped and flopped, as we well know.
But we must now wake up,
And say goodbye.
Now the light is shining,
It’s a new morn.
His bus is waiting,
He’s holding corn.



Already he’s so funny,
I could cry.


So wave bye, don’t look at me,
Turn around and really flee.
Told you that, you really need to go.



He’s leaving, on his jet plane.
We all hope, he won’t be back again.
Oh John, we wish you’d go.



There’s so many times, he’s lied, we found.
We all just wish, he would leave town.
The words he says, they don’t mean a thing.
Everything he says, a lie to you.
As he flips and flops a time or two.
When he leaves town, much sunshine it will bring.



So wave bye, don’t look at me,
Turn around and really flee.
Told him that, he really needs to go.



We all hope, he won’t be back again.
Oh John, we wish you’d go.

Now the time has passed we’re tired of you.
Please be gone we won’t miss you.
We’ll hold the door, you get on your way.
Think about the time will come.
You will see that you are dumb.



We’ll recall the day we got to say.



So wave bye, don’t look at me,
Turn around and really flee.
Told him that, he really needs to go.



He’s leaving, on his jet plane.
We all hope, he won’t be back again.
Oh John, we wish you’d go.




Conspiracy Guy aka DIF 8/6/2004

523 posted on 08/16/2004 5:26:37 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Conspiracy Guy, Secretary of Humor and Tomfoolery)
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To: tame

Yes the transcript is great-- thx--but I would like to use some of the actual audio in my flashmovies. I always seem to miss the c-span replay and c-span doesn't appear to have the video on its site. :(

Did you capture the video on your hard drive?... or did you just tape it?

If the latter, do you have the hardware and software to capture the audio or audio/video so that you can email or post the files?


524 posted on 08/16/2004 5:54:24 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Conspiracy Guy

great
bump


525 posted on 08/16/2004 5:56:57 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T
If the latter, do you have the hardware and software to capture the audio or audio/video so that you can email or post the files?

I only caught it on tape :o(

Sorry about that.

526 posted on 08/16/2004 5:58:03 AM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: hg23
I take it there was a blood bath. I wasn't born yet when this was happening and I don't remember hearing a lot about Vietnam in history class.

You won't hear much history any more of any kind in High School History Class. You are getting a pretty good lesson now if you are paying attention.

It was a very bitter time, with the majority of the American People supporting the Vietnam War effort (look at the Nixon electoral landslide of 1972) but a very determined number against it, just like today in Iraq. In fact, many are the same cast of characters. If you listened to Kerry in 1971, you could substitute "Iraq" for "Vietnam" today and not see much difference. These people have learned nothing, nothing, from history. They are blinded by their personal hatred and ideology. Their stubborn ignorance and opposition has caused the death of millions.

Bloodbath figures (those killed after downfall of Vietnam) are unable to be accurately determined. Estimates range from tens of thousands in Laos (the killing is still going on today), to hundreds of thousands - possibly at least 500 thousand - in Vietnam (including "boat people" who died on the high seas trying to escape the Communists persecutions), to over 2 million in Cambodia, who died at the hands of the Khmer Rouge (Cambodian Communists). Bloodbath numbers were probably somewhere between 2-3 million, after the war was over. This does not count the huge number of dead the Communists murdered after the end of the First Indochina War against the French which ended in 1956, nor the millions of refugees who fled from North to South to escape the Communists at that time. Nor does it include the nearly 500,000 murdered by the Communists during the Vietnam War.

The figures are simply appalling - and largely ignored.

It was well known before the end of the War (certainly in 1971) the Communists had a plan to take retribution if they were victorious. The said so repeatedly, and wrote openly about it. The only question was how high the numbers would be? The antiwar Left, like Kerry, were simply lying when they asserted there would be no bloody aftermath, and they knew it.

Any nation which ever went Communist has experienced a bloodbath to one extent or another. It is the acknowledged way the communists assert their control.

527 posted on 08/16/2004 5:58:48 AM PDT by Gritty ("the modern Democrats: willing to insult the intelligence of 49% to fool the 51% - Ann Coulter)
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To: Mia T
you have the hardware and software to capture the audio or audio/video so that you can email or post the files?

I don't have the technology. I'm still in the stone ages, lol.

528 posted on 08/16/2004 5:59:53 AM PDT by tame (Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
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To: Mia T

I love the flip flop corn picture.


529 posted on 08/16/2004 6:05:11 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Conspiracy Guy, Secretary of Humor and Tomfoolery)
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To: nicmarlo

Nah, I wasn't home. I'm in Fayetteville for my last week of classes.


530 posted on 08/16/2004 6:46:28 AM PDT by sweetliberty ("A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left." (Eccl. 10:2))
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To: All
this show was truly amazing....for those who missed it, you missed something stunning.....

all the positions the keerybyrd defended have been proven to be wrong over the last 30 years

Mr. O'Neill's points have all been proven correct......

Notice how the media is avoiding talking about it


531 posted on 08/16/2004 8:51:49 AM PDT by The Wizard (DemonRATS: enemies of America)
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To: Mia T
bump!

532 posted on 08/16/2004 8:55:28 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: The Wizard

bttt


533 posted on 08/16/2004 10:01:16 AM PDT by Christian4Bush (I approve this message: character and integrity matter. Bush/Cheney '04)
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To: Conspiracy Guy
I love the flip flop corn picture


So do I.

"Corny condescension"
would be a fitting title, don't you think?
Kerry is such a dork.


534 posted on 08/16/2004 10:52:58 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: GretchenM

Between Tonkin and Chad Gore, it is pretty well covered.


535 posted on 08/16/2004 11:11:04 AM PDT by annyokie (Now with 20% More Infidel!)
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To: annyokie

I'm a psychic in touch with the voices in my head that keep saying KUCK FERRY, KUCK FERRY


536 posted on 08/16/2004 12:40:37 PM PDT by NYCop (Bush, the right choice for real men)
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To: Mia T

Yes!! Good Caption and Kerry is a Super Dork!!! Perfect picture for the campaign.


What has 4 legs, 4 arms, 2 heads, no charm, one set of teeth, and 6 ears? That picture.


537 posted on 08/16/2004 1:42:53 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Conspiracy Guy, Secretary of Humor and Tomfoolery)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

I watched this debate and could see how much Kerry was groomed to be just like Bill Clinton. They both look the same in their eyes!!

Do you think Americas-Enemies trained and groomed both Kerry and Clinton, setting one in Moscow to do Anti-USA marches, and one in Vietnam, foreseeing future poltical worth in both men??

On'Neill was fabulous, even after Cavet turned on him at the end. What a TRUE American.

Kerry is a TRAITOR --
NOW and THEN

No flip-flopping on that!!


538 posted on 08/18/2004 12:12:09 AM PDT by Joy Angela (America is Bush Country - Hell is Hillary's Country)
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