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Scott O'Grady: Kerry's Actions After VietNam Constitute Treason

Posted on 08/14/2004 7:28:12 PM PDT by annyokie

O'Grady: Kerry's actions after Vietnam constituted treason


Associated Press

ST. PAUL - Scott O'Grady, the Air Force pilot who captured headlines in 1995 when he survived being shot down over Bosnia, on Friday said Sen. John Kerry committed "treason" during the Vietnam War.

O'Grady, in an appearance with other military veterans coordinated by President Bush's re-election campaign, said Kerry helped push North Vietnam's proposals for the United States to withdraw at a time when the two countries were still officially at war.

"I see that as treason," said O'Grady, who lives in Texas and has been speaking at veterans events for Bush around the country. He's now retired from the military.

A Bush campaign spokeswoman, Tracey Schmitt, said O'Grady's views were his own.

"The Bush-Cheney campaign does not and has not ever questioned John Kerry's patriotism," Schmitt said.

O'Grady said he was referring to Kerry's 1971 appearance before the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations. In response to a question about how he proposed to end the war, Kerry mentioned that he was involved in peace talks in Paris.

"I have talked with both delegations at the peace talks, that is to say the Democratic Republic of Vietnam and the Provisional Revolutionary Government," Kerry told the panel, according to a transcript.

A U.S. law prohibits citizens from negotiating with foreign governments on matters such as peace treaties.

Earlier this year, Kerry spokesman Michael Meehan told the Boston Globe that Kerry had "no role whatsoever in the Paris peace talks or negotiations." Meehan said Kerry had gone to Paris on a private trip and had one brief meeting with Madam Nguyen Thi Binh and others.

Binh, a leader of the Provisional Revolutionary Government, a communist group based in South Vietnam, had a list of peace-talk points, including the suggestion that U.S. POWs would be released when American forces withdrew.

On Friday, O'Grady asserted that Kerry had championed the proposals of the communist regime in North Vietnam about setting a date to withdraw U.S. troops - a situation O'Grady called "treasonous."

"That is my own, personal opinion," he said.

In his 1971 testimony, Kerry told senators that many officials of the American government had said that prisoners of war would be returned if the United States set a date for withdrawal.

"I think this negates very clearly the argument of the President that we have to maintain a presence in Vietnam, to use as a negotiating block for the return of those prisoners. The setting of a date will accomplish that," Kerry testified.

Kerry's Minnesota campaign, asked for a response to O'Grady, put forward Jim Bootz, a Navy veteran from Chaska who has campaigned for Kerry.

"I don't think there's anything treasonous about what he did," Bootz said.

He said Kerry had been trying to help find a solution for the Vietnam conflict.

"It wasn't a radical viewpoint," Bootz said.

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1 posted on 08/14/2004 7:28:14 PM PDT by annyokie
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To: ALOHA RONNIE; kellynla


2 posted on 08/14/2004 7:29:42 PM PDT by annyokie (Now with 20% More Infidel!)
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To: annyokie

I'm not playing hall monitor...but here's same-topic thread:

except the article is from The St. Paul Pioneer Press (IIRC)

3 posted on 08/14/2004 7:33:21 PM PDT by VOA
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To: annyokie

I have major questions about Kerry's patriotism. Yes, Sen Kerry, we are attacking your patriotism.

4 posted on 08/14/2004 7:40:36 PM PDT by votelife (Calling abortion a women's issue is like calling war a men's issue!)
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To: annyokie

The Clintons aren't loyal to America either.

5 posted on 08/14/2004 8:00:15 PM PDT by freekitty
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To: annyokie

It is hard to interpret Kerry's meeting with the Bad Guys as anything except treason.

6 posted on 08/14/2004 8:27:41 PM PDT by bagman
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To: All

Here's some pertinent kerry history!!!!

Below is excerpted statements to Congress, 22 April, 1971 by Lt. John F. Kerry USNR(Inactive Reserve Status).

"Mr. KERRY. My feeling, Senator, is undoubtedly this Congress, and I don't mean to sound pessimistic, but I do not believe that this Congress will, in fact, end the war as we would like to, which is immediately and unilaterally and, therefore, if I were to speak I would say we would set a date and the date obviously would be the earliest possible date. But I would like to say, in answering that, that I do not believe it is necessary to stall any longer. I have been to Paris. I have talked with both delegations at the peace talks, that is to say the Democratic Republic of Vietnam and the Provisional Revolutionary Government and of all eight of Madam Binh's points it has been stated time and time again, and was stated by Senator Vance Hartke when he returned from Paris, and it has been stated by many other officials of this Government, if the United States were to set a date for withdrawal the prisoners of war would be returned."

Furhter paired down to:

"I have been to Paris. I have talked with both delegations at the peace talks, that is to say the Democratic Republic of Vietnam and the Provisional Revolutionary Government and of all eight of Madam Binh's points..."(kerry and his VVAW negotiated in Paris with the then enemy.)

Stated by kerry to Our U.S. Congress which is in the Official Congressional Record, 22 April, 1971.

I'll let ALL of you think your own thoughts about this, however, I cannot for the life of me, picture kerry in any elected office, never mind being Commander in Chief!!!!

Why kerry was not indicted, tried and convicted for Treason and Sedition under the appropriate Articles, We will never know.

The Media SHAMELESSLY hides this TRUTH(In the Congressional Record, dated 22 April, 1971) from the Public!!!! They are equally Treasonous and Seditionous as kerry is!!!!This Blatant Example of the media shows that we no longer have a FREE and TRUTHFUL Press(Straight ALL the Way LEFT of Center)!!!!

kerry had his VVAW which led to the deaths of thousands or hundreds of thousands of deaths in Viet Nam, Laos and Cambodia after he and his VVAW accomplished their mission in getting U.S. withdrawal in South Viet Nam. kerry and his VVAW forever tarnished the image of U.S. Viet Nam Vets!!!!

The Democratic Party is no longer the Democratic Party!!!! For them to select kerry and his two forunners Clinton and Gore show they have become the party of our enemies!!!!

We cannot ALLOW this to STAND!!!!


Some More Interesting historical news about kerry:

Some of kerry's friends listed below:

DSA's "Progressive Caucus" Links below:

They are the Enemy Within!!!!

I have at least one or two interesting posts about said such subject matter, below:

And see:

More: Communist Party Backs the RATS!!!! below:

More!!!! Socialists(DSA) backs kerry!!!! Below:

More of the Enemy within!!!!

Even More!!!! Red China Backs kerry!!!! See Below:

Avoid the Socialists/Communists backed johns(not capitolised on purpose) like the Plague!!!!

Flush the Socialists/Communists/Enemies Loving Johns down the john!!!!!!!!!!!!!


7 posted on 08/14/2004 8:38:53 PM PDT by Defender2 (Defending Our Bill of Rights, Our Constitution, Our Country and Our Freedom!!!!)
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To: annyokie

I openly question Kerry's patriotism, wait I don't think the lying scumbag has any patriotism. He is a power hungry UN Kowtower and it will be the worst thing that has happened to this country if he becomes President since the Klintons. Who also happen to both be lying scumbags that are power hungry.

8 posted on 08/14/2004 9:08:53 PM PDT by vpintheak (Our Liberties we prize, and our rights we will maintain!)
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To: annyokie
"It wasn't a radical viewpoint," Bootz said.

The H#)) it wasn't. I agree with my fellow Captain. It was treason, giving aid and comfort to the enemies of the US as required by the Constitution. You say the North Vietnamese weren't our enemies? Well *they* said they were. I'm sure there were more than two witnesses to the act as well. We shouldn't be bothered with him now. Ah well, Mr. Peanut probably would have pardoned him if he had been convicted of treason. The Kennedy's would have still sheparded his political fortunes. And the people of Massachusetts would still have elected him Senator. After all if manslaughter (or murder since leaving the scene of an accident is a crime and the death occurred during the commision of that crime) is no big deal, what's a little treason?.

9 posted on 08/14/2004 9:14:43 PM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: El Gato

Heck....Kerry has been contacting our enemy in France Msr. Chiraq for some time now.....!

10 posted on 08/14/2004 10:36:03 PM PDT by Republic Rocker
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