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Kerry's Latest Flip-Flop, Cambodia -- Did He Lie to the U.S. Senate?
Human Events Online ^ | Aug 11, 2004 | Human Events Online

Posted on 08/11/2004 6:45:03 PM PDT by Jeff Blogworthy

Democratic presidential nominee Sen. John Kerry has waffled again, this time on his own recollections of a supposed mission to Cambodia on Christmas of 1968.

On the Senate floor on March 27, 1986 (Congressional Record, page S3594), Sen. Kerry said:

I remember Christmas of 1968 sitting on a gunboat in Cambodia. I remember what is was like to be shot at by Vietnamese and Khme Rouge and Cambodians, and have the President of the United States telling the American people that I was not there; The troops were not in Cambodia…I have that memory which is seared--seared--in me....

In an October 14, 1979, letter to the Boston Herald, Sen. Kerry wrote of his vivid memories of his Christmas Eve spent in Cambodia (quoted in Unfit for Command, page 46):

I remember spending Christmas Eve of 1968 five miles across the Cambodian border being shot at by our South Vietnamese allies who were drunk and celebrating Christmas. The absurdity of almost being killed by our own allies in a country in which President Nixon claimed there were no American troops was very real.

But today, on Fox News' "Fox and Friends," Kerry Campaign Advisor Jeh Johnson had this to say to the show's co-host Brian Kilmeade:

JOHNSON: John Kerry has said on the record that he had a mistaken recollection earlier. He talked about a combat situation on Christmas Eve 1968 which at one point he said occurred in Cambodia. He has since corrected the recorded to say it was some place on a river near Cambodia and he is certain that at some point subsequent to that he was in Cambodia. My understanding is that he is not certain about that date.

KILMEADE: I think the term was he had a searing memory of spending Christmas - back in 1986 in the senate floor in Cambodia.

JOHNSON: I believe he has corrected the record to say it was some place near Cambodia he is not certain whether it was in Cambodia but he is certain there was some point subsequent to that that he was in Cambodia.


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To: Cboldt

Don't feed the trolls,feed the trolls to the kitties. :)


41 posted on 08/11/2004 7:11:50 PM PDT by Free Trapper (ALF & ELF - Future Bog People)
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To: independentthinker1
This isn't a case of mistaken navigation, although as a Swift boat commander that would have been a mast offense itself had it really resulted in the inadvertent crossing of an international border - commanders of naval units are supposed to know where they are, you know, it's considered a kind of important part of the job. But this wasn't that. This was a deliberate false accusation in an attempt to smear a man who wasn't yet president at the time, at a later time when the omission wouldn't be noticed - as it was not.

This isn't a fond war memory gone wrong. It's a politically motivated lie that was found out.

42 posted on 08/11/2004 7:13:01 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Jeff Blogworthy

Kerry is in real trouble....


43 posted on 08/11/2004 7:14:03 PM PDT by The Wizard (DemonRATS: enemies of America)
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To: Free Trapper
Don't feed the trolls,feed the trolls to the kitties.

Good advice. I follow it half-assed.

44 posted on 08/11/2004 7:15:18 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Jeff Blogworthy
Start and end with the invocation of the name "Nixon."

The timing is prior to the beginning of Nixon's presidency. A lie. Not in any manner or on any basis debatable. If J F'ing Kerry did not know he was lying at the time he told this whopper of a story [giving him the benefit of the doubt as merely delusional] ... by the time he had repeated it a few times he knew better and still continued to repeat what he knew by then to be a falsehood.

BTW, if there are any women out there that can explain the appeal of this "gentleman" please let me know. If I get truly desparate whatever ploy this wanker is using might prove useful :<)

45 posted on 08/11/2004 7:15:38 PM PDT by R W Reactionairy
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To: TomGuy

He was also going to find out who ate the strawberries....


46 posted on 08/11/2004 7:17:03 PM PDT by bagman
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To: Jeff Blogworthy

The Dem mouthpiece is spinning the same story on Scarborough country. The river was 60 miles long and how could you be sure if you were in Cambodia or not, blah blah.


47 posted on 08/11/2004 7:17:04 PM PDT by Ciexyz ("FR, best viewed with a budgie on hand")
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To: Cboldt

At least you know a liar when you see one. :)


48 posted on 08/11/2004 7:17:31 PM PDT by Free Trapper (ALF & ELF - Future Bog People)
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To: fhayek

Self induced false memory syndrome.

No telling what other delusions he may be operating under!


49 posted on 08/11/2004 7:18:10 PM PDT by Calamari (Pass enough laws and everyone is guilty of something.)
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To: Izzy Dunne

Pat Buchanan just did on "Scarborough Country" on MSNBC.


50 posted on 08/11/2004 7:19:15 PM PDT by no dems (Hey, Hey JFK; How many lies have you told today?)
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To: Jeff Blogworthy

I say he lied to cover his own deeds and said everyone was doing it to cover his own arse. I have yet to hear of anyone else testifying to Congress then saying the same things that Kerry did....


51 posted on 08/11/2004 7:19:53 PM PDT by b4its2late (John John Kerry Edwards change positions more often than a Nevada prostitute!!!)
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To: Ciexyz
If Vietnam is to be the demonstration of your leadership, then you damn well better not be 'leading' your crew accidentally into a noncombatant nation. Anyway, he claimed he was there on purpose, otherwise he couldn't slam Nixon's 'secret war'
52 posted on 08/11/2004 7:20:56 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: tomnbeverly

Maybe Kerry was on LSD that Christmas in Cambodia?


53 posted on 08/11/2004 7:22:58 PM PDT by Ciexyz ("FR, best viewed with a budgie on hand")
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To: Billthedrill

When this story first popped up a day or two ago, I read somewhere (probably on the FreeRepublic) that several boats had inadvertently strayed into Cambodia earlier. To prevent a recurrence, several boats were posted at the border, and concrete pilings were driven into the river bed.

Therefore, Kerry could not have been in Cambodia as a result of a navigational error.

The only alternative to rescue this story is to be on a secret mission with the CIA (yeah, the CIA, that's the ticket - the yahoos will fall for that one!)


54 posted on 08/11/2004 7:23:11 PM PDT by bagman
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To: no dems
Pat Buchanan just did on "Scarborough Country" on MSNBC.

I wonder if Pat read my post...

55 posted on 08/11/2004 7:23:31 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: musicman

IMHO, I want to hear it from KERRY HIMSELF, not some dem operative reading off some faxed talking points.Along with his "180", THAT would ALSO "splain" a lot.



I like it when he does the 360s on the war. I support it, I don't support it, I support it. Just imajine him doing a pireout (SP) Spinning around endlessly>


56 posted on 08/11/2004 7:24:54 PM PDT by Ethyl
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To: bagman

....ah yes, the strawberries....(Was it Capt Queeg or Capt Querry?) LOL!


57 posted on 08/11/2004 7:25:06 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (Freedom Stands Because Heroes Serve.)
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To: tomnbeverly
My sides are still hurting from this... I actually signed up so I could congratulate you on summarizing this guy so well... My first post is a result of good humor.

Thanks!!!!
58 posted on 08/11/2004 7:25:08 PM PDT by chesswiz
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To: bagman
The only alternative to rescue this story is to be on a secret mission with the CIA

Yeah - I'm sure the CIA was looking for green self-important yahoos to command their top secret operationas across the border under the orders of president-elect Richard Nixon.

59 posted on 08/11/2004 7:25:35 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: tobyhill
Personality Separation Disorder. He actually believes these events happened.

Interesting you should say that. This morning I watched the original May 4th Swift Vets press conference. One of the Vets said almost that exact thing about Kerry... "personality disorder, dangerous, unfit..."

I urge anyone who hasn't watched, to take 1 hour, 20 minutes and watch the whole thing. Simply amazing.

GO HERE:

swift1.he.net/~swiftvet/index.php?topic=SwiftVetQuotes

60 posted on 08/11/2004 7:26:20 PM PDT by Sally
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