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John Kerry's Christmas in Cambodia
Swift Boat Veterans for Truth ^ | 08/10/2004 | Interesting Times

Posted on 08/11/2004 5:47:41 AM PDT by Interesting Times

On October 14, 1979, John Kerry described a remarkable event from his days as a Swift boat officer for the Boston Herald:

"I remember spending Christmas Eve of 1968 five miles across the Cambodian border being shot at by our South Vietnamese allies who were drunk and celebrating Christmas. The absurdity of almost being killed by our own allies in a country in which President Nixon [sic] claimed there were no American troops was very real."

-- President Nixon, of course, did not assume office until January of 1969.

On March 27, 1986, during a speech opposing President Reagan's policy in Central America, Senator John Kerry had this to say:

"Mr. President, I remember Christmas of 1968 sitting on a gunboat in Cambodia. I remember what it was like to be shot at by the Vietnamese and Khmer Rouge and Cambodians, and have the president of the United States telling the American people that I was not there; the troops were not in Cambodia. I have that memory which is seared -— seared -— in me, that says to me, before we send another generation into harm's way we have a responsibility in the U.S. Senate to go the last step, to make the best effort possible in order to avoid that kind of conflict." [see Congressional Record - Senate of March 27, 1986, page 3594]

And again, in a 1992 article by the Associated Press:

"But for Kerry, who spent six violent months [sic] commanding a patrol boat on the Mekong River, there's always been a ring of truth to allegations of abandoned Americans. By Christmas 1968, part of Kerry's patrol extended across the border of South Vietnam into Cambodia.

"We were told, `Just go up there and do your patrol. Everybody was over there (in Cambodia). Nobody thought twice about it," Kerry said. One of the missions, which Kerry, at the time, was ordered not to discuss, involved taking CIA operatives into Cambodia to search for enemy enclaves.

"I can remember wondering, `If you're going to go, what happens to you,"' Kerry said.

As recently as May of 2000, U.S. News and World Report stated that, "Sen. John Kerry made his first forays into Cambodia during the Vietnam War as a Navy lieutenant on clandestine missions to deliver weapons to anticommunist forces."

Interestingly, Kerry's Cambodian sojourn, though "seared" into his memory by 1986, somehow failed to rate a mention in Kerry's own contemporary journal.

In "Unfit for Command," authors John O'Neill and Dr. Jerome Corsi document the impossibility of Kerry's story:

Despite the dramatic memories of his Christmas in Cambodia, Kerry’s statements are complete lies. Kerry was never in Cambodia during Christmas 1968, or at all during the Vietnam War. In reality, during Christmas 1968, he was more than fifty miles away from Cambodia. Kerry was never ordered into Cambodia by anyone and would have been court-martialed had he gone there.

During Christmas 1968, Kerry was stationed at Coastal Division 13 in Cat Lo. Coastal Division 13’s patrol areas extended to Sa Dec, about fifty-five miles from the Cambodian border. Areas closer than fifty-five miles to the Cambodian border in the area of the Mekong River were patrolled by PBRs, a small river patrol craft, and not by Swift Boats. Preventing border crossings was considered so important at the time that an LCU (a large, mechanized landing craft) and several PBRs were stationed to ensure that no one could cross the border.

A large sign at the border prohibited entry. Tom Anderson, Commander of River Division 531, who was in charge of the PBRs, confirmed that there were no Swifts anywhere in the area and that they would have been stopped had they appeared.

All the living commanders in Kerry’s chain of command—Joe Streuhli (Commander of CosDiv 13), George Elliott (Commander of CosDiv 11), Adrian Lonsdale (Captain, USCG and Commander, Coastal Surveillance Center at An Thoi), Rear Admiral Roy Hoffmann (Commander, Coastal Surveillance Force Vietnam, CTF 115), and Rear Admiral Art Price (Commander of River Patrol Force, CTF 116)—deny that Kerry was ever ordered to Cambodia. They indicate that Kerry would have been seriously disciplined or court-martialed had he gone there. At least three of the five crewmen on Kerry’s PCF 44 boat—Bill Zaldonis, Steven Hatch, and Steve Gardner—deny that they or their boat were ever in Cambodia. The remaining two crewmen declined to be interviewed for this book. Gardner, in particular, will never forget those days in late December when he was wounded on PCF 44, not in Cambodia, but many miles away in Vietnam.

As part of the supporting documentation given to station managers for our television ad, "Any Questions?" we provided this regarding John Kerry's "Christmas in Cambodia":

The story is a total preposterous fabrication by Kerry. Exhibit 8 is an affidavit by the Commander of the Swift boats in Vietnam, Admiral Roy Hoffmann, stating that Kerry's claim to be in Cambodia for Christmas Eve and Christmas of 1968 is a total lie. If necessary, similar affidavits are available from the entire chain of command. In reality, Kerry was at Sa Dec -- easily locatable on any map more than fifty miles from Cambodia. Kerry himself inadvertently admits that he was in Sa Dec for Christmas Eve and Christmas and not in Cambodia, as he had stated for so many years on the Senate Floor, in the newspapers, and elsewhere. Exhibit 27, Tour, pp. 213-219. Sa Dec is hardly "close" to the Cambodian border. In reality, far from being ordered secretly to Cambodia, Kerry spent a pleasant night at Sa Dec with "visions of sugar plums" dancing in his head. Exhibit 27, p. 219. At Sa Dec where the Swift boat patrol area ended, there were many miles of other boats (PBR's) leading to the Cambodian border. There were also gunboats on the border to prevent any crossing. If Kerry tried to get through, he would have been arrested. Obviously, Kerry has hardly been honest about his service in Vietnam.

John Kerry was never shot at by Khmer Rouge and Cambodians. He never took CIA operatives into Cambodia to search for enemy enclaves. In fact, John Kerry's boat never came within 50 miles of Cambodia at any time.


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To: Interesting Times

Below is a link that takes us to a scanned copy of the Boston Herald section where Kerry lies about Scambodia.

Boston Herald article, KERRY/CAMBODIA UPDATE (Kerry draws parallels to Apocalypse Now in story)
To Grampa Dave | 08/11/2004 3:08:45 PM PDT sent





http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1188739/posts?page=79#79


101 posted on 08/11/2004 3:10:34 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Has the Franchurian Dork candidate, le Jacquestrap Kerri ever not lied to Americans!")
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To: Interesting Times; All

Kerry Update: "I have that memory which is seared -— seared -— in me of being with Marlon Brando and Martin Sheen in Cambodia. I remember Martin Sheen very clearly killing Marlon Brando with a machete and the smell of napalm in the morning...However, I am unable to remember when that was exactly or any other details unless someone shows me the Queen of Diamonds..."


102 posted on 08/11/2004 5:01:31 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity

Must have been the "fog of war." You watch: that will be the next line of defense.


103 posted on 08/11/2004 6:06:46 PM PDT by Galtoid
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To: Galtoid
Most likely...watching Apocalypse Now pushed Kerry over the edge. He thought it would be "cool" to try to make people think (especially girlfriends and interns)that he might have been one of the Vets whose exploits such "cool" films were based on. His case of "borderline personality disorder" may be so severe that he doesn't even know whether such tales are true or not. A little like...Bill Clinton.

Someone should ask Martin Sheen if he remembers Kerry heading into Cambodia with him to terminate Marlon Brando.

104 posted on 08/11/2004 6:14:19 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Inwoodian
In addition to the "Good Luck Hat", he also carries a four leaf clover given to him by a constituent, and a St. Christopher medal given to him years ago by his Mom, which he kisses before going onstage to make a speech.

He also carries around a ten lb. bag of bullshit.

105 posted on 08/11/2004 7:30:52 PM PDT by Ciexyz ("FR, best viewed with a budgie on hand")
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To: Interesting Times

This cat is in trouble...


106 posted on 08/11/2004 7:31:26 PM PDT by The Wizard (DemonRATS: enemies of America)
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To: Interesting Times

Lanny Davis, former counsel in the Klintoon White House, is on Scarborough ripping apart O'Neill and his book.


107 posted on 08/11/2004 7:32:22 PM PDT by Ciexyz ("FR, best viewed with a budgie on hand")
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To: dennisw
Wrong movie. Kerry's comments here from 1979 about spending Christmas in Cambodia was from his review of the movie, Apocalypse Now. This was noticed TODAY over at Instapundit.com. But who first made the analogy that Kerry's Christmas Fanstasy was most likely based on Apocalypse Now? Well, lets just say it was made by a certain Freeper last Sunday. I would mention his name but I am much too (BLUSH) modest.
108 posted on 08/11/2004 7:37:43 PM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: tirednvirginia
"So he didn't lie - he just misspoke."

What a crock!! Given that he talks about it being Christmas Eve and he was in Viet Nam for only 4 months I think we can figure out what the date was, Ha, What a liar,!!!! I think he is going to keep lying, I think he lives in a fantsy world.

109 posted on 08/11/2004 7:40:04 PM PDT by lstanle
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To: Inwoodian

His memories are so painful he wakes up screaming and TerAYsa has to slap him. And last night they had separate hotel rooms because all is not well in the Heinz/Kerry household. Oh, to be a fly on the wall at RAT headquarters. Every day you think it can't get any better...and it does!


110 posted on 08/11/2004 7:45:19 PM PDT by hershey
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To: Marysecretary

Some months back Kerry was seen copying JFK's signature over and over, making his own look as much like Kennedy's as possible. This man is a complete phony, an empty suit.


111 posted on 08/11/2004 7:55:54 PM PDT by hershey
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To: rwfromkansas

Did you hear O'Reilly whining that the Swift Boat vets' complaints were diverting us from the real issue -- that we're at war? He knows electing a liar is hardly in the nation's interest. He's busy covering his butt because this story has become very big news and he missed the boat.


112 posted on 08/11/2004 8:00:28 PM PDT by hershey
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To: Ciexyz

Lanny knows that with PRIMO RAT liars around like Clinton and J F'N he will NEVER LACK FOR A STEADY JOB.


113 posted on 08/11/2004 8:02:53 PM PDT by rod1 (On the front line)
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To: KeyLargo

Let's not forget Kerry claimed he was Irish for years and showed up for the annual politicians' Irish breakfast in South Boston. Then, just before the primaries, it came out that he wasn't Irish at all. Big lie. In fact, his father was Jewish and changed the family name. It doesn't matter which ethnicity he is, it's the lies. Always with the lies. Howie Carr should write a column for the Boston Herald, listing all Kerry's lies.


114 posted on 08/11/2004 8:04:51 PM PDT by hershey
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To: PJ-Comix

Go see Beyond Rangoon (1995)for a great movie about that part of the world.


115 posted on 08/11/2004 8:33:26 PM PDT by dennisw (Once is Happenstance. Twice is Coincidence. The third time is Enemy action. - Ian Fleming)
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To: mict42
This guy is dangerous because he has demonstrated that he will contort the truth to meet the moment.

When will a real Dem step forward who has led a real life and can just be himself during the campaign, instead of a phony, media-created huckster. Where have you gone, Patrick Moynihan?

116 posted on 08/11/2004 10:52:28 PM PDT by ez (TERRORISTS FOR KERRY!!!)
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To: Vermont Lt
The problem is that his "heroism" in VN is the only reason he's giving for voting for him.

What's he going to say, "Vote for me, because I'm really good at marrying rich women." Or "Vote for me, I've done nothing in the senate, where I can't even be bothered to show up to vote."

117 posted on 08/12/2004 11:34:05 AM PDT by stop_fascism
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To: WVNan

Notice no mention of the other crewmen, by name. Just little people filling in his drama. Also, what's with the second person language? You this, You that. No "I" there. But we all know that, that there is not there there in Kerry.


118 posted on 08/12/2004 11:52:42 AM PDT by Leisler (Democrat Plantation Slaves Revolt!)
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To: Lady GOP

"Nixon was not inaugurated yet. Loves to lie but has a poor memory."

It seems it is a common error to count the election year as the first year of a President's term even though the actual term begins in January of the following year. I still remember how furious I used to get when McGovern would be on TV ranting about how Nixon could have ended the war "four years ago" even though Nixon at the time had only been President for about three years. I used to wonder how McGovern could undermine his own credibility this way for no apparent reason but I finally realized that he, like most others, was simply too careless to note the error.


119 posted on 08/12/2004 2:57:51 PM PDT by RipSawyer ("Embed" Michael Moore with the 82nd airborne.)
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To: Interesting Times

The only thing left for him to do is claim that "Apocolypse Now" is really a movie about his secret mission into Cambodia.


120 posted on 08/12/2004 4:36:03 PM PDT by PsyOp (Men easily believe what they want to. – Caesar, De Bello Gallico, III, 18.)
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