Posted on 08/10/2004 10:02:13 AM PDT by Bob J
One never knows who is trolling FR for tidbits, sound bites and suggestions. Please use this thread to offer your own talking points and sound bites for the Swifties and media.
2. Collectively these men have 375 years of experience in Vietnam and on their swift boats, compared to the 16 total months of Kerry and his nine enlistees.
3. These men were in boats yards away from Kerry and were witnesses to what happened. They were well positioned to observe the events in question.
4. Many of the Swift Boat Vets are decorated war heroes themselves and not only have earned the right but have a duty to expose thos who they believe received honors fraudulently.
5. The Swift Boat Vets who signed the petition collectively earned (Insert total of medals and honors) Saying these men do not have the right to speak out or claiming they are lying is an abomination and insult to all soldiers who served their country honorably during the VietNam war.
6. Saying the Swifties have no right to give witness to these events because they were not in the same boat as Kerry is like saying Ron Goldman (if he survived) has no right to testify against OJ because he wasn't wearing Bruno Magli shoes.
1) kerry lead a capitulation movement against his own country.
2) Bush lead a capitulation movement against our enemies, the way is should be done.
The election process, including the Swift Boat ads, is a vetting process for the presidency of the U.S. Americans have a right to speak, be heard and then to vote. Carry on.
b) the swift crews were as close as a football team to include the QB, offense, defense & special teams.
c) when somebody is interviewed the prosepective employer typically gets references from his former bosses and fellow peers, not those who served UNDER him.
They are not Republican operatives, just concerned citizens.
The voters have the right to know the truth. Bush released all his records, why doesn't Kerry?
The White House denounced the advertisement on 8/5/04 and issued the challenge that all "soft money" advertisements cease.
It helps to remove some of the heat from the swifties, and puts the emphasis where it belongs, ON KERRY.
Simply Put, on several occasions Senator Kerry, in speech, and in writing spoke of the painful experience of being in Cambodia, on Christmas Eve of 1968, and being haunted by the fact that President Nixon denied their prescence.
Now, a simple Calendar tells one that he is lying about Nixon, because Nixon was not president yet.
But More importantly, IF Mr.Kerry was not in Cambodia, why did he repeatedly claim to have been?
Is that not really a slur against the United States of America, much akin to his Slur of Vietnam veterans during the Senate hearings...?
The repeating of the Cambodia fiction, tells a voter everything they need to know about Mr.Kerry's true feelings aobut the projection of American Force abroad.
Foretold, is Forewarned.
That's good, but do you have a brief talking-points synopsis of the Swift Boat Vets *claims*? It would be good have that in summary form.
Why did the DNC or Kerry not distance themselves from Michael Moore's propaganda hit piece or denounce it. What is the relationship between Moveon.org and DNC personnel?
So Kerry, lets get your crew together
and they can tell America how you and
they were in Cambodia on Dec 24 and 25 1968,
under Nixon's orders even though Nixon
wasn't Commander-in-Chief until Jan 20 1969
You and your crew were there.
They can verify this? Correct?
Johnson, Lyndon
1963-69
Nixon, Richard
1969-74
Odd, I was in Vietnam on Dec 24 and 25 1968
and Johnson was my Commander-in-Chief
John Kerry
Exhibit 25, Congressional Record - Senate of March 27, 1986, page 3594.
"Mr. President, I remember Christmas of 1968 sitting on a gunboat in Cambodia. I remember what it was like to be shot at by Vietnamese and Khmer Rouge and Cambodians, and have President Nixon telling the American people that I was not there; the troops were not in Cambodia.
I have that memory which is seared -- seared -- in me . . . ."
By way of further example, Kerry wrote an article for the Boston Herald on October 14, 1979:
"I remember spending Christmas Eve of 1968 five miles across the Cambodian border being shot at by our South Vietnamese allies who were drunk and celebrating Christmas. The absurdity of almost killed by our own allies in a country in which President Nixon claimed there were no American troops was very real."
See Exhibit 26.
Regardless of what Kerry did or didn't do in-country...his actions as a spokeperson for Viet Nam Veterans Against the War tells us all we need to know about being "Unfit for Command"!
It's a simple as this
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1188761/posts?page=13#13
Now where are the crew members that were on the boat with Kerry?
When Kerry testified before Congress in 1971, he alleged war crimes and confessed to participation. How can Kerry be a hero if he committed war crimes? Which Kerry story is true? Why won't the media ask him to elaborate? There's more evidence that he was a war criminal than there is that Bush went AWOL. Why isn't that news?
Anyone who has not contributed their own $'s to the Swiftboat ad fund, should have the decency to immediately donate to the Swift boat vets to counter the tie in with the mediots and Kerry.
Why we should contribute to the Swift Boat Money raising for tv ads, based on comments from Kerri's staff"
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1188521/posts
According to a Kerry campaign source, senior campaign advisers tasked two Washington-based campaign staffers to vet the recently published Unfit for Command.
"The purpose was to compare what that book had with what we had on file from Senator Kerry," says the campaign source, who said that the research project developed more than 75 instances where Kerry's recollections, previous remarks, or writings conflicted with the book's reporting.
"We took some of the most glaring examples, like the Christmas in Cambodia story, and presented them to senior staff, and we assume that those things were put in front of Senator Kerry," says the source. "We haven't heard a word about it. All we were told is that it was being taken care of."
The campaign source said that the book was not considered a "serious" problem for the campaign, because, "the media wouldn't have the nerve to come at us with this kind of stuff," says the source.
"The senior staff believes the media is committed to seeing us win this thing, and that the convention inoculated us from these kinds of stories. The senior guys really think we don't have a problem here."
all the swiftboat vets are asking for is for Kerry to release all his records..he already said he would, President Bush has done so so why doesn't Kerry do what he said he would, what is he hiding? In fairness to all he should be held to the same standard he holds President Bush to...
http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20040421-121056-7919r.htm
Why is he un-releasing a document, what did it contain that is so embarassing, and who else has a copy?
That would make for a good talking point.
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