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John Kerry : "war hero" or a "war criminal"
68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub

Posted on 08/07/2004 10:06:18 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

John Kerry is either a "war hero" or a "war criminal"

Can't have it both ways.

John Kerry and War Crimes in Vietnam

He was in command of a Swift Boat
and ordered his men to do these things.
Listen to this 1971 audio clip in Kerry's own words.

LONG BEFORE THE '04 Election

Listen Here


John Kerry went before the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations in 1971
to accuse the United States military
of committing massive numbers of war crimes in Vietnam.

So my question is did Kerry lie about his "heroism" or the "atrocities" that he took part in?

Did he lie to his superiors in Dec 68 - March 69 to obtain his medals or did he lie in 1971?

And if he didn't lie then why didn't he report the crimes that he saw?

After all he was in command of a Swift Boat, not just a crew member following orders.

All John Kerry has to do is authorize the release of ALL of his military records.

OR admit that he lied in 1971.

Kerry made Vietnam the center of his campaign.
It's up to Kerry and Kerry only to set the record straight.
BEFORE NOV 2nd.


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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Isn't is STRANGE that the MSM is NOT calling for the release of Effingkerry's Medical and Service records? Of course the POTUS was hounded for months/years for his, but that is different......right? Right!


21 posted on 08/07/2004 10:24:50 AM PDT by PISANO (NEVER FORGET 911 !!!!)
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To: MarkeyD

During my time there I can recall only one person, and he was not only a three Purple Heart recipient but also a three war veteran. I encountered many with three or more Purple Hearts during my 20 years.
He was on the first wave at Normandy, was wounded bad enough to be medically retired.
He was called back to active duty for Korea. He was on the first wave at Inchon, was wounded bad enough to be once again medically retired.
He was again called back for Viet Nam. He reported aboard using a cane. He had a medical profile (chit) restricting him to duty with no load noise, no weapons, no prolonged standing, setting walking etc. (Yea! Right!). His first mission with us included an amphibious landing in Hue to take out the Citadel Tower. He was again wounded - by the same mortar that got me - and again medically retired.
I guess it could be said that he took his three Purple Hearts and went home. Then again, he didn’t have any choice.


22 posted on 08/07/2004 10:25:39 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
Of the 4 moths of his tour how many of those days were spent "filming"?

I'd like to ask Kerry where the films of his "war wounds" are.

If he was so eager to see himself on film he surely would have filmed his "horrible" combat wounds wouldn't he?

Inquiring minds want to know.

23 posted on 08/07/2004 10:25:45 AM PDT by Mister Baredog ((Part of the Reagan legacy is to re-elect G.W. Bush))
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

And how much of it was spent applying for medals he didn't earn, and wasting the time and resources of medical staff?


24 posted on 08/07/2004 10:25:49 AM PDT by thoughtomator (I question the timing of this post)
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To: PISANO

See post 20 for the answer.


25 posted on 08/07/2004 10:25:58 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (It only takes one idiot to raze a village.)
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To: norraad

Another question a good reporter might ask Kerry. Does he know anyone or can he name anyone that also got out of Vietnam by using the three purple hearts technicality?


26 posted on 08/07/2004 10:25:59 AM PDT by GROOVY
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To: R. Scott

"He was again wounded - by the same mortar that got me"

Thanks to him and you for your service to our country.


27 posted on 08/07/2004 10:31:10 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (It only takes one idiot to raze a village.)
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To: GROOVY
... a good reporter

That's funny!

28 posted on 08/07/2004 10:31:14 AM PDT by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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To: R. Scott

Amazing story, thanks for sharing it with us and WELCOME HOME, brother!


29 posted on 08/07/2004 10:35:53 AM PDT by PISANO (NEVER FORGET 911 !!!!)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Thank you Tonk.


30 posted on 08/07/2004 10:37:03 AM PDT by laurenmarlowe
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

bump


31 posted on 08/07/2004 10:40:23 AM PDT by Soaring Feather (I write the songs of sorrow.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Hold his feet to the fire Tonk.


32 posted on 08/07/2004 10:41:16 AM PDT by GVnana
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Lying, coward, yellow-bellied turncoat war criminal. Ask me how I REALLY feel!


33 posted on 08/07/2004 10:44:55 AM PDT by TommyDale
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

BTTT.
We are finally taking control of the reality of our experience and history.
Kerry will have nothing to say or stand on once this central (and only) foundation of his candidacy goes up in smoke.
I despise him.
Thanks for your post -- and your service.


34 posted on 08/07/2004 10:50:16 AM PDT by Viet Vet in Augusta GA
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To: Baynative
"CNN, ABC, NPR would never ask - FOX would never get an answer."

Based on Fox News' performance in the past two days, I doubt they would even ask the question, either. Bill O'Reilly, Sheperd Smith, and a female filling in last night for Greta VanSusteren all have been biased against the SwiftVets. I would like someone to tell me what is going on at Fox. Has there been a coup there? Is Roger Ailes gone? Someone said their email to Ailes was bounced back as "undeliverable".

35 posted on 08/07/2004 10:50:24 AM PDT by TommyDale
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

My thanks to Traumer, Arrowhead1952 and Conspiracy Guy for the concept of this pic


36 posted on 08/07/2004 10:51:39 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
John Kerry : "war hero" or a "war criminal"

(radio-advertizing voice emulator ON)
"John Kerry, he's two...two...action figures in one!"
37 posted on 08/07/2004 10:51:49 AM PDT by VOA
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

"Of the 4 moths of his tour how many of those days were spent "filming"?"

He only went into action once, and that for a total of 1 hour. The balance of his abbreviated tour consisted of carefully posing and filming his supposed heroic ventures. It took so long because they ran out of film twice and those darn, darn "rain days"!


38 posted on 08/07/2004 10:52:49 AM PDT by lawdude (Liberalism: A failure every time it is tried!)
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To: MarkeyD
Some did. Their names are listed on the Wall in Washington D.C. I know of only one who invoked the rule himself and walked out alive and intact.
39 posted on 08/07/2004 10:53:46 AM PDT by BIGLOOK (I like liberals, preferably toasted.)
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To: MarkeyD

We know one that's running for president sure did.


40 posted on 08/07/2004 10:56:51 AM PDT by keysguy (Trust the media as far as you can throw them)
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