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How likely is human extinction?
Mail & Guardian Online ^ | Tuesday, April 13, 2004 | Kate Ravilious

Posted on 04/14/2004 6:15:04 AM PDT by Momaw Nadon

Every species seems to come and go. Some last longer than others, but nothing lasts forever. Humans are a relatively recent phenomenon, jumping out of trees and striding across the land around 200 000 years ago. Will we persist for many millions of years to come, or are we headed for an evolutionary makeover, or even extinction?

According to Reinhard Stindl, of the Institute of Medical Biology in Vienna, the answer to this question could lie at the tips of our chromosomes. In a controversial new theory he suggests that all eukaryotic species (everything except bacteria and algae) have an evolutionary "clock" that ticks through generations, counting down to an eventual extinction date. This clock might help to explain some of the more puzzling aspects of evolution, but it also overturns current thinking and even questions the orthodoxy of Darwin's natural selection.

For over 100 years, scientists have grappled with the cause of "background" extinction. Mass extinction events, like the wiping out of dinosaurs 65m years ago, are impressive and dramatic, but account for only around 4% of now extinct species. The majority slip away quietly and without any fanfare. Over 99% of all the species that ever lived on Earth have already passed on, so what happened to the species that weren't annihilated during mass extinction events?

Charles Darwin proposed that evolution is controlled by "survival of the fittest". Current natural selection models imply that evolution is a slow and steady process, with continuous genetic mutations leading to new species that find a niche to live in, or die. But digging through the layers of rock, palaeontologists have found that evolution seems to go in fits and starts. Most species seem to have long stable periods followed by a burst of change: not the slow, steady process predicted by natural selection. Originally scientists attributed this jagged pattern to the imperfections of the fossil record. But in recent years more detailed studies have backed up the idea that evolution proceeds in fits and starts.

The quiet periods in the fossil record where evolution seems to stagnate are a big problem for natural selection: evolution can't just switch on and off. Over 20 years ago the late Stephen Jay Gould suggested internal genetic mechanisms could regulate these quiet evolutionary periods but until now no-one could explain how it would work.

Stindl argues that the protective caps on the end of chromosomes, called telomeres, provide the answer. Like plastic tips on the end of shoelaces, all eukaryotic species have telomeres on the end of their chromosomes to prevent instability. However, cells seem to struggle to copy telomeres properly when they divide, and very gradually the telomeres become shorter.

Stindl's idea is that there is also a tiny loss of telomere length between each generations, mirroring the individual ageing process.

Once a telomere becomes critically short it causes diseases related to chromosomal instability, or limited tissue regeneration, such as cancer and immunodeficiency. "The shortening of telomeres between generations means that eventually the telomeres become critically short for a particular species, causing outbreaks of disease and finally a population crash," says Stindl. "It could explain the disappearance of a seemingly successful species, like Neanderthal man, with no need for external factors such as climate change."

After a population crash there are likely to be isolated groups remaining. Stindl postulates that inbreeding within these groups could "reset" the species clock, elongating telomeres and potentially starting a new species. Studies on mice provide strong evidence to support this. "Established strains of lab mice have exceptionally long telomeres compared to those in wild mice, their ancestors," says Stindl. "Those strains of lab mice were inbred intensively from a small population."

Current estimates suggest telomeres shorten only a tiny amount between each generation, taking thousands of generations to erode to a critical level. Many species can remain stable for tens to hundreds of thousands of years, creating long flat periods in evolution, when nothing much seems to happen.

Telomere erosion is a compelling theory, helping to explain some of the more mysterious patterns in evolution and extinction. There are few data - partly because telomeres are tiny and difficult to measure - but new DNA sequencing techniques could soon change that. Studies have already shown a huge variation in telomere length between different species.

Other scientists are going to take some convincing. David Jablonski, a palaeontologist from the University of Chicago, says: "The telomere hypothesis is interesting, but must be tested against factors like geographic extent, or population size and variability, that have already been proven effective in predicting extinction risk."

Stindl accepts that more experiments need to be done to test his ideas. "We need to compare average telomere lengths between endangered species and current successful species," he says. "I don't expect all endangered species to have short telomeres, since there are clearly other extinction mechanisms resulting from human threats to ecosystems, but I would expect some correlation between extinction risk and telomere length."

If Stindl is correct it will have interesting implications for mankind. Although inbreeding seems to have been the traditional way of lengthening telomeres, there could be a less drastic alternative. Stindl believes that it may be possible to elongate telomeres by increasing the activity of the enzyme telomerase in the embryo. So humans could perhaps boost biodiversity and save endangered species simply by elongating their telomeres. We may even be able to save ourselves when our own telomeres become critically short, making humans the first species to take hold of destiny and prevent their own extinction.

Indicators for human extinction Human telomeres are already relatively short. Are we likely to become extinct soon?

Cancer: Cancer incidence does seem to have increased, but it is hard to say whether this is due to longer lifespans, more pollution, or telomere erosion. The shortest telomere in humans occurs on the short arm of chromosome 17; most human cancers are affected by the loss of a tumour suppressor gene on this chromosome.

Immunodeficiency: Symptoms of an impaired immune system (like those seen in the Aids patients or the elderly) are related to telomere erosion through immune cells being unable to regenerate. Young people starting to suffer more from diseases caused by an impaired immune system might be a result of telomere shortening between generations.

Heart attacks and strokes: Vascular disease could be caused by cells lining blood vessels being unable to replace themselves - a potential symptom of telomere erosion.

Sperm counts: Reduction in male sperm count (the jury is still out on whether this is the case) may indicate severe telomere erosion, but other causes are possible.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: ageing; archaeology; charlesdarwin; chromosome; chromosomes; crevolist; darwin; dna; evolution; extinct; extinction; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; history; human; humanextinction; inbred; multiregionalism; naturalselection; neandertal; population; populationcrash; telomerase; telomere; telomereerosion; telomeres
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To: Riley
the Yellowstone supervolcano

I blame the Americans & Booosh.
61 posted on 04/14/2004 9:50:40 AM PDT by johnb838 ("I really don't care; they're all gonna die," Lance Cpl. Ryan Christensen)
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To: Momaw Nadon
I'm already extinct. One look at the mirror this morning convinced me.

One thing about an overreliance on natural selection to extrapolate the future of H. sapiens - we cheat. We change the environment, not the other way around, and we change ourselves too, both behaviorally (culture is, actually, an evolutionary ploy) and physically, from artificial limbs to genetic therapeutics. H. sapiens may at some point be as extince as H. neanderthalensis but humans may just go rolling right along.

62 posted on 04/14/2004 9:55:39 AM PDT by Billthedrill ("I really don't care; they're all gonna die," - Lance Cpl. Ryan Christiansen)
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To: Billthedrill
"extince" = "extinct." Clearly poor spelling is one sign the species is doomed.
63 posted on 04/14/2004 9:57:33 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Ichneumon
{reply to post 47 }
Do you think "in His image" related to physical appearance?
Is "image" an exact translation or synomatic?
It could be related to intelligence. When the fruit was tasted "Now he is as We, for now he knows the difference between right and wrong [ablility to sit in judgement?]
Which is why we were prevented from tasting from the tree of immortality, then we would be His equal.
I don't think He would be as shallow as comment to compare us in how we looked.
64 posted on 04/14/2004 10:13:44 AM PDT by olde north church (Free Occupied Jersey)
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To: commonerX
What kind of wimpy god needs to rest?


I never sleep!

65 posted on 04/14/2004 10:21:08 AM PDT by balrog666 (A public service post.)
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To: null and void
Jumped? I thought they fell...

They were pushed...and Bush knew!

66 posted on 04/14/2004 10:27:40 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: RightWhale
consciousness resides in the hydrogen atoms

Prove it.

Assuming for a moment that the proposition is true; does that mean that I, er... the atoms, I mean, er... the atoms that comprise 'me' mean, have any choice as to whether or not I, er... the atoms that comprise 'me' believe it? What if the atoms that comprise 'me' should happen to cause a different outcome in belief about consciousness residing in the hydrogen atoms than the atoms that comprise 'you'? How could either or any atoms possibly be considered by any conlgomeration of other hydrogen atoms to be "wrong", or 'incorrect'? How can pure physical forces that are nothing but the product of imperssonal evolutionary processes possibly produce anything that is wrong or incorrect?

Cordially,

67 posted on 04/14/2004 10:33:39 AM PDT by Diamond
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To: Diamond
The possibility of consciousness resides in the atoms. Possibly in the electrons of the shell of the atom. It may not be self-aware consciousness at the atomic level, that may be reserved to a higher functionality. But the potential for higher function is in the lower.
68 posted on 04/14/2004 10:39:31 AM PDT by RightWhale (Theorems link concepts; proofs establish links)
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To: Diamond
nothing but the product of imperssonal evolutionary processes

Is that a necessary premise?

69 posted on 04/14/2004 10:41:31 AM PDT by RightWhale (Theorems link concepts; proofs establish links)
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To: Momaw Nadon

70 posted on 04/14/2004 10:43:50 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe ("As government expands, liberty contracts.")
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To: Modernman
But we'll be a well-dressed extinct species.

With rather tastefully-appointed tombs.

71 posted on 04/14/2004 10:44:17 AM PDT by Junior (Remember, you are unique, just like everyone else.)
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To: camle
Smeg!

I can already see the resemblance of the Democrats on the 9/11 commission to Dwayne Dibley . . .
72 posted on 04/14/2004 10:50:58 AM PDT by agrarianlady
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To: Momaw Nadon
"It could explain the disappearance of a seemingly successful species, like Neanderthal man, with no need for external factors such as climate change."

There is no mystery. The Neanderthals were killed off in war. Humans do not evolve slowly or naturally as other animals do. Most human evolution occurs during war. Darwin himself wrote about this however leftist academics reject that humans are natural born killers. It does not agree with their narcissistic view of themselves or their view of the world.

73 posted on 04/14/2004 11:04:59 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: agrarianlady
yeah. just what did you have the cat do with all my cigarettes and curry?
74 posted on 04/14/2004 11:05:10 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it with something for you))
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To: Tailgunner Joe
The Voluntary Human Extinction Movement:

http://www.vhemt.org/
75 posted on 04/14/2004 11:14:14 AM PDT by Modernman (Work is the curse of the drinking classes. -Oscar Wilde)
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To: Momaw Nadon
Cancer: Cancer incidence does seem to have increased, but it is hard to say whether this is due to longer lifespans, more pollution, or telomere erosion.

The logic behind the "longer life spans" argument seems particularly strong, given that susceptibility does go up with age.

76 posted on 04/14/2004 11:14:19 AM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: MattinNJ
"Yikes."

It's always something.

Did Asteroids And Comets Turn The Tides Of Civilization?

77 posted on 04/14/2004 11:35:27 AM PDT by blam
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To: Billthedrill
One thing about an overreliance on natural selection to extrapolate the future of H. sapiens - we cheat.

It isn't likely to avail in the long run. We are highly specialized vertibrates, with a boatload of maintenance problems. Earthworms or cockroaches are about the highest form of life that are likely to last as long as the sun shines.

Amongst other things, we are slow-breeding large social predators. Deprive us of natural selection in the form of wolves and bears and snakes and routine starvation-which is another description of "cheating"--and our genome will spread in every direction, regardless of the maladaption resulting. This does not augure well for the long term survival of our offspring.

A species survives because it is good at something at the genetic level. The more you substitute your brains for your genes, the less the genes adapt. Unless you can somehow assure that the adaptions of your brain remain useful for millenia, more technological intervention with natural selection will mean more drastic consequences whenever the bubble goes up, and your technological prowess fails you.

In other words, survival to the point of overwhelming the environment as a factor in your own survival, by brainpower, or any other means, contains the seeds of it's own distruction. Analogies to this case can be observed in almost any petri-dish, or runaway refrigerator experiment every performed.

78 posted on 04/14/2004 11:39:53 AM PDT by donh
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To: Billthedrill
One thing about an overreliance on natural selection to extrapolate the future of H. sapiens - we cheat.

It isn't likely to avail in the long run. We are highly specialized vertibrates, with a boatload of maintenance problems. Earthworms or cockroaches are about the highest form of life that are likely to last as long as the sun shines.

Amongst other things, we are slow-breeding large social predators. Deprive us of natural selection in the form of wolves and bears and snakes and routine starvation-which is another description of "cheating"--and our genome will spread in every direction, regardless of the maladaption resulting. This does not augure well for the long term survival of our offspring.

A species survives because it is good at something at the genetic level. The more you substitute your brains for your genes, the less the genes adapt. Unless you can somehow assure that the adaptions of your brain remain useful for millenia, more technological intervention with natural selection will mean more drastic consequences whenever the bubble goes up, and your technological prowess fails you.

In other words, survival to the point of overwhelming the environment as a factor in your own survival, by brainpower, or any other means, contains the seeds of it's own distruction. Analogies to this case can be observed in almost any petri-dish, or runaway refrigerator experiment ever performed.

79 posted on 04/14/2004 11:40:04 AM PDT by donh
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To: Reeses
Redheads 'Are Neanderthal'
80 posted on 04/14/2004 11:42:06 AM PDT by blam
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