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How likely is human extinction?
Mail & Guardian Online ^ | Tuesday, April 13, 2004 | Kate Ravilious

Posted on 04/14/2004 6:15:04 AM PDT by Momaw Nadon

Every species seems to come and go. Some last longer than others, but nothing lasts forever. Humans are a relatively recent phenomenon, jumping out of trees and striding across the land around 200 000 years ago. Will we persist for many millions of years to come, or are we headed for an evolutionary makeover, or even extinction?

According to Reinhard Stindl, of the Institute of Medical Biology in Vienna, the answer to this question could lie at the tips of our chromosomes. In a controversial new theory he suggests that all eukaryotic species (everything except bacteria and algae) have an evolutionary "clock" that ticks through generations, counting down to an eventual extinction date. This clock might help to explain some of the more puzzling aspects of evolution, but it also overturns current thinking and even questions the orthodoxy of Darwin's natural selection.

For over 100 years, scientists have grappled with the cause of "background" extinction. Mass extinction events, like the wiping out of dinosaurs 65m years ago, are impressive and dramatic, but account for only around 4% of now extinct species. The majority slip away quietly and without any fanfare. Over 99% of all the species that ever lived on Earth have already passed on, so what happened to the species that weren't annihilated during mass extinction events?

Charles Darwin proposed that evolution is controlled by "survival of the fittest". Current natural selection models imply that evolution is a slow and steady process, with continuous genetic mutations leading to new species that find a niche to live in, or die. But digging through the layers of rock, palaeontologists have found that evolution seems to go in fits and starts. Most species seem to have long stable periods followed by a burst of change: not the slow, steady process predicted by natural selection. Originally scientists attributed this jagged pattern to the imperfections of the fossil record. But in recent years more detailed studies have backed up the idea that evolution proceeds in fits and starts.

The quiet periods in the fossil record where evolution seems to stagnate are a big problem for natural selection: evolution can't just switch on and off. Over 20 years ago the late Stephen Jay Gould suggested internal genetic mechanisms could regulate these quiet evolutionary periods but until now no-one could explain how it would work.

Stindl argues that the protective caps on the end of chromosomes, called telomeres, provide the answer. Like plastic tips on the end of shoelaces, all eukaryotic species have telomeres on the end of their chromosomes to prevent instability. However, cells seem to struggle to copy telomeres properly when they divide, and very gradually the telomeres become shorter.

Stindl's idea is that there is also a tiny loss of telomere length between each generations, mirroring the individual ageing process.

Once a telomere becomes critically short it causes diseases related to chromosomal instability, or limited tissue regeneration, such as cancer and immunodeficiency. "The shortening of telomeres between generations means that eventually the telomeres become critically short for a particular species, causing outbreaks of disease and finally a population crash," says Stindl. "It could explain the disappearance of a seemingly successful species, like Neanderthal man, with no need for external factors such as climate change."

After a population crash there are likely to be isolated groups remaining. Stindl postulates that inbreeding within these groups could "reset" the species clock, elongating telomeres and potentially starting a new species. Studies on mice provide strong evidence to support this. "Established strains of lab mice have exceptionally long telomeres compared to those in wild mice, their ancestors," says Stindl. "Those strains of lab mice were inbred intensively from a small population."

Current estimates suggest telomeres shorten only a tiny amount between each generation, taking thousands of generations to erode to a critical level. Many species can remain stable for tens to hundreds of thousands of years, creating long flat periods in evolution, when nothing much seems to happen.

Telomere erosion is a compelling theory, helping to explain some of the more mysterious patterns in evolution and extinction. There are few data - partly because telomeres are tiny and difficult to measure - but new DNA sequencing techniques could soon change that. Studies have already shown a huge variation in telomere length between different species.

Other scientists are going to take some convincing. David Jablonski, a palaeontologist from the University of Chicago, says: "The telomere hypothesis is interesting, but must be tested against factors like geographic extent, or population size and variability, that have already been proven effective in predicting extinction risk."

Stindl accepts that more experiments need to be done to test his ideas. "We need to compare average telomere lengths between endangered species and current successful species," he says. "I don't expect all endangered species to have short telomeres, since there are clearly other extinction mechanisms resulting from human threats to ecosystems, but I would expect some correlation between extinction risk and telomere length."

If Stindl is correct it will have interesting implications for mankind. Although inbreeding seems to have been the traditional way of lengthening telomeres, there could be a less drastic alternative. Stindl believes that it may be possible to elongate telomeres by increasing the activity of the enzyme telomerase in the embryo. So humans could perhaps boost biodiversity and save endangered species simply by elongating their telomeres. We may even be able to save ourselves when our own telomeres become critically short, making humans the first species to take hold of destiny and prevent their own extinction.

Indicators for human extinction Human telomeres are already relatively short. Are we likely to become extinct soon?

Cancer: Cancer incidence does seem to have increased, but it is hard to say whether this is due to longer lifespans, more pollution, or telomere erosion. The shortest telomere in humans occurs on the short arm of chromosome 17; most human cancers are affected by the loss of a tumour suppressor gene on this chromosome.

Immunodeficiency: Symptoms of an impaired immune system (like those seen in the Aids patients or the elderly) are related to telomere erosion through immune cells being unable to regenerate. Young people starting to suffer more from diseases caused by an impaired immune system might be a result of telomere shortening between generations.

Heart attacks and strokes: Vascular disease could be caused by cells lining blood vessels being unable to replace themselves - a potential symptom of telomere erosion.

Sperm counts: Reduction in male sperm count (the jury is still out on whether this is the case) may indicate severe telomere erosion, but other causes are possible.


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To: betty boop
So we who want to know cannot stop with surface appearances -- which in effect are all that physical entities are.

And yet, to my mind, my basic question still goes unanswered: "one is a small number". Is an example of a, for all practical purposes, truth. Yet what is the underlying, invisible reason that causes this to be true? Is it that one is smaller than nine? Is it that it can be expressed on one page?

I will grant, as a matter of faith, that there are probably underlying consistencies and clarities about the universe that causes our perceptual take on it to become clearer and more powerful over time. However, that doesn't mysteriously raise objective philosophy to some sort of higher plane of confidence than a good hunch. And, countervailing that, you have to think that the human desire for things to be simple enough to understand plays a large measure in helping us hone down our focus on the just the parts of the universe that could be catering to our prejudices in this regard. It seems to me the distinctions between the universe-views of Ptolomy, Kepler, Einstein, and the quantum gravity researchers (all of which were useful, and all of which propose dramatically different universes) ought to cast some doubt here. All make out of the currently available data, a best guess--all appear to produce pathological oversimplifcations when the focus of our concens shifts to data that wasn't used to construct the theory.

A universe centered on the earth, a universe with a fixed time-space frame, and a universe with time wondering around at different speeds at different locations are not any kind of obvious example of "honing down closer to the truth": they are examples of scrapping and starting over, over and over.

If we cavalierly remake the universe in such radical ways, without blinking, I aver it is misplaced trust to cling powerfully to the notion of an objective frame--not particularly because it's true, or untrue, but because it's not helpful. And it's more important that a theory be helpful, than that it be true.

381 posted on 04/30/2004 1:15:13 PM PDT by donh
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To: betty boop
Amen! As long as such remain - in any number - God will be praised.
382 posted on 04/30/2004 1:28:59 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: donh; betty boop; marron
Er, if I may...

And it's more important that a theory be helpful, than that it be true.

That is wall between us. To me - and I'm sure to betty boop and marron - the Truth is important above all else.

383 posted on 04/30/2004 1:35:16 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: donh; Alamo-Girl; marron; unspun; PatrickHenry; Ronzo; Tribune7; Diamond; epigone73
And yet, to my mind, my basic question still goes unanswered: "one is a small number". Is an example of a, for all practical purposes, truth. Yet what is the underlying, invisible reason that causes this to be true? Is it that one is smaller than nine? Is it that it can be expressed on one page?

Yet there are infinitessimally smaller numbers than one, and infinitely larger numbers than one. I guess this means we always need to keep context in mind, if we want to understand anything.

Science is seeking a GUT -- a grand universal theory that presumably will correlate and consolidate the insights and discoveries of Newton, Einstein, and the great quantum theorists (Bohr, Born, Schroedinger, Planck, others). Einstein's Relativity didn't repudiate Newton. It has been said that Newtonian mechanics is a fine theory and eminently reliable predictor of events that take place in the world of "ordinary" space and time. That Einstein's theories are descriptions of the world of the very, very large; and QM of the world of the very, very small. No one of them displaces or falsifies any other: They are descriptions of different aspects or "scales" of the Universe and it seems to me that at some ultimate level they must all work together. The string theorists, following Klein and Kaluza, are trying to figure out how to "tie them all together."

We live in such fascinating times, donh!

Thank you so much for your thoughtful reply.

384 posted on 04/30/2004 1:45:56 PM PDT by betty boop (The purpose of marriage is to civilize men, protect women, and raise children. -- William Bennett)
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To: betty boop
Ah yes, you have hit upon my favorite subject! IMHO, geometric physics is close to a very major breakthrough in consolidating the theories.

What fascinating times, indeed.

385 posted on 04/30/2004 1:54:04 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
Hmmm... Is one really that small?

It's half way between zero and infinity...
386 posted on 04/30/2004 1:59:11 PM PDT by null and void (The Owls are not what they seem.)
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To: betty boop
Einstein's Relativity didn't repudiate Newton. It has been said that Newtonian mechanics is a fine theory and eminently reliable predictor of events that take place in the world of "ordinary" space and time.

I suggest that a universe in which the twins paradox exists is different from Newton's fixed-frame universe so radically that it is misleading to think of it as an adjustment in the trailing digits of the decimal place, most particularly for the discussion at hand.

Newton's and Einstien's universes could not be more radically different at their fundament. That both produce satisfactory answers for most purposes is NOT an argument in favor of an objective universe science is refining itself toward. The refinements produce better utility--they do not produce evidence narrowing ever closer to the True Truth.

387 posted on 04/30/2004 2:00:34 PM PDT by donh
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To: Alamo-Girl; donh; marron; unspun; beckett; PatrickHenry; Ronzo; Diamond; Tribune7
And it's more important that a theory be helpful, than that it be true.

It seems to me that no theory can possibly be "helpful" if it just isn't "true." FWIW.

Which gets us back to an earlier point: recta ratio, "right reason." What is it?

A ratio expresses a relation of one thing to another. Therefore, reason depends on being in relation to something that is not itself, in order for it to be "reasonable," "rational." (A mental solipsism of the kind perpetrated by Hegel, say, ought to be easy for a rational person to spot. Funny thing though, our "intellectuals" eat this stuff up. They have lost their "ratio"....)

Constructors of Second Realities like to forget this. Eric Voegelin called this maneuver an "eclipse of Reality."

388 posted on 04/30/2004 2:03:29 PM PDT by betty boop (The purpose of marriage is to civilize men, protect women, and raise children. -- William Bennett)
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To: null and void
Thank you so much for that interesting thought!

It's half way between zero and infinity...

But I see 0 being the crossroad of all infinities - outwards positive and negative, and inwards by fractions towards itself -- and infinite in itself.

389 posted on 04/30/2004 2:05:15 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
There are some major changes underway in physics. Physics Today is page after page of "forget Fourier" and wavelets and who knows what new stuff. Stay tuned, it's taking a while to digest.
390 posted on 04/30/2004 2:06:15 PM PDT by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: betty boop
Yet there are infinitessimally smaller numbers than one, and infinitely larger numbers than one. I guess this means we always need to keep context in mind, if we want to understand anything.

Or, putting it another way: "one is a small number" isn't an objectively true statement for which there is an ineffable presence in the universe for science to seek out. It is a human invention to help us think about stuff.

391 posted on 04/30/2004 2:06:49 PM PDT by donh
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To: betty boop
It seems to me that no theory can possibly be "helpful" if it just isn't "true." FWIW.

Ptolomaic astronomy brought ships home safely from the sea.

392 posted on 04/30/2004 2:08:47 PM PDT by donh
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To: betty boop
A ratio expresses a relation of one thing to another. Therefore, reason depends on being in relation to something that is not itself, in order for it to be "reasonable," "rational."

So very true! Thanks for the ping!

393 posted on 04/30/2004 2:11:09 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: betty boop
We live in such fascinating times, donh!

I couldn't agree more.

394 posted on 04/30/2004 2:11:57 PM PDT by donh
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To: Alamo-Girl
hat is wall between us. To me - and I'm sure to betty boop and marron - the Truth is important above all else.

I have no doubt of this, from previous conversations. I'm not a super big fan, myself. Bearing western history in mind, I bear you good will in your search--provided you don't pursuade yourself you've found it, and have an army to back you up.

395 posted on 04/30/2004 2:17:26 PM PDT by donh
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To: RightWhale
Got links?
396 posted on 04/30/2004 2:20:53 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
Still working on this; the magazine just arrived. I feel like Rip van Winkle, everything has changed. Maybe it's time to start studying physics all over again. We're not in Kansas anymore. Etc.
397 posted on 04/30/2004 2:23:59 PM PDT by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: donh
LOLOL! No worries with the "armies". If you had been following my posts on the religion forum, you would realize that I do not adhere to the doctrine and traditions of mortals be they Calvin, Arminius, Joseph Smith, Mohammed, Billy Graham, the Pope, etc. I have been walking with the Lord for over 44 years now and I rely only the Word. Jesus is One with the Father; He is Truth and Light.
398 posted on 04/30/2004 2:27:23 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: RightWhale
Well, please then let me know what you think (along with some clues to follow-up) when you finish reading the latest issue!
399 posted on 04/30/2004 2:28:44 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: NorthWoody
I do not consider it an insult but rather a compliment to be called an agnostic. I do not pretend to know where many ignorant men are sure -- that is all that agnosticism means. - Clarence Darrow Scopes trial 1925.

http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/clarence_darrow/why_i_am_an_agnostic.html

The truth is that the origin of what we call civilization is not due to religion but to skepticism. So long as men accepted miracles without question, so long as they believed in original sin and the road to salvation, so long as they believed in a hell where man would be kept for eternity on account of Eve, there was no reason whatever for civilization: life was short, and eternity was long, and the business of life was preparation for eternity.

When every event was a miracle, when there was no order or system or law, there was no occasion for studying any subject, or being interested in anything excepting a religion which took care of the soul. As man doubted the primitive conceptions about religion, and no longer accepted the literal, miraculous teachings of ancient books, he set himself to understand nature. We no longer cure disease by casting out devils. Since that time, men have studied the human body, have built hospitals and treated illness in a scientific way. Science is responsible for the building of railroads and bridges, of steamships, of telegraph lines, of cities, towns, large buildings and small, plumbing and sanitation, of the food supply, and the countless thousands of useful things that we now deem necessary to life. Without skepticism and doubt, none of these things could have been given to the world.

The fear of God is not the beginning of wisdom. The fear of God is the death of wisdom. Skepticism and doubt lead to study and investigation, and investigation is the beginning of wisdom.

The modern world is the child of doubt and inquiry, as the ancient world was the child of fear and faith.


400 posted on 04/30/2004 3:04:32 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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