Governor fears unrest unless same-sex marriages are halted (GAY MARRIAGE HOMOAGENDA CIVIL WAR).

San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 2/22/04 | Edward Epstein

[I_Love_My_Husband]

Washington -- Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger turned up the rhetoric against San Francisco's move to allow same-sex marriages, saying on national TV Sunday that he fears outbreaks of serious civil unrest if the ceremonies continue at City Hall.

Schwarzenegger said on NBC's "Meet the Press'' that he fears worsening protests about the divisive issue and worries the situation could get out of hand if courts don't quickly stop the marriages, which are being performed in defiance of existing state law.

[little jeremiah]

Homosexual Agenda Ping - It's getting more and more interesting...

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[King Prout]

just waiting for the shooting to start.
it will, over this. mark my words: it will.

[SendShaqtoIraq]

"Sans childern, marriage is a vacant instituion."

Couples who are infertile would not agree with you that their marriage is vacant.

[Commie Basher]

CHP? Ta hell with that. Arnold has every right to send the NATIONAL GUARD there. He CAN do that, ya know. Arnold? In the name of law.. DO IT.

Maybe that's what the Dems wants. TV images of helmeted troops roughing up people for "wanting to make a commitment to family." And the gays will resist, so the guards will need to get rough to drag them out, and the TV will pick it up.

I think the Dems are hoping such images will remind people of Selma and Bull Connor, etc.

[backhoe]

-A Gay ( or not! ) Old Time- GM links--

[.30Carbine]

"California Penal Code sec. 359 makes it a misdemeanor for marriage officials to knowingly marry people otherwise prohibited by law from marrying. Gavin Newsom is guilty of at least 3,300 of these misdemeanor counts. He ought to be arrested, booked, tried, convicted, impeached and driven from office in ignominy.

"His legal rationale is without foundation. Even if the state constitution required that gays be allowed to marry (hogwash), the fact remains that California marriage officials have never been granted authority to marry anyone or anything other than a man to a woman. That's it. That's why the Massachussetts Supreme Judicial Court gave a 6-month prospective order to legislate the right... because it didn't exist before. The same thing applies here. There is no possible way for the San Francisco homosexual marriages to hold up in court. They are eventually doomed. Because of this, Gavin Newsom has knowingly aided and abetted thousands of misdemeanor crimes, and at least in one case performed the ceremony himself.

"Newsom may also be in violation of Penal Code 360 (false marriage license) and Government Code sec. 1222, willful failure to perform official duty. And there are at least 3 Family Code sections indicating that only a man and a woman can marry. (Family Code 308.5, Family Code 300, and Family Code 420(a).)

"Fighting criminal rebellion with attempts to win civil injunctions will not succeed and is only emboldening Newsom."
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I feel very strongly that every word of your post needs to be repeated (and repeated and repeated!).

The article that heads this thread, as many if not all articles coming out of CA on this issue, attempts to distort the issue and the facts of the case, defame the rule of law and skewar the thought process of the readers. The rhetoric from the press is astonishing but predictable. It must be countered.

If the Governor bends over on this one Cali is done and so is the rest of the US.

Either Law is King or rebels within our system of government are given a pass to become tyrants...in which case revolution will break out.

Either this open rebellion by the SF mayor and the AG is handled by elected officials charged with enforcing the law (I am NOT referring to the courts but to the Governor as chief law enforcement officer of the state), or it is anarchy instigated by sleeper cells in our own system, to be answered by revolution in the streets.

[.30Carbine]

Email Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger: governor@governor.ca.gov

[.30Carbine]

You mentioned on another thread a few days ago that you had heard news of arrests in SF:
I heard it on WABC 770am NYC talk radio either on the hour or on the half hour. A man who is involved in the anti-homo marriage protests in San Francisco was on the news just after the WABC reporter. (paraprased):
"They are arresting us for protesting those breaking the law but not those breaking the law......"

For what it's worth, this article says,
A number of protesters were escorted out of San Francisco City Hall on Friday when they tried to disrupt the weddings, but no one was arrested.

(If that's true, it may be the only grain of truth in the article.)

We both know who it is that is in need of being escorted out of the SF City Hall and who it is that ought to be arrested.

[livius]

Thank you for the excellent post. Aside from the compressed but very fine analysis, I think you're also right on this:

Fighting criminal rebellion with attempts to win civil injunctions will not succeed and is only emboldening Newsom.

The Governor shouldn't have let it get this far, although I suppose he had to exhaust the court possibilities first. Since the court in one case has simply refused to act, and his own AG (unlike the New Mexico AG) has flat out refused to do what he was asked to do, I'd say they're exhausted.

But I hope he acts quickly now, because every day that this goes on is making us more like Haiti or some other banana republic and less like a state founded on the rule of law. And at some point, as in any banana republic, there will be violence.

[StonyBurk]

If/when the queer nation suceeds in this battle for same
sex marriage-or the abolition of marriage it will be a
wedge issue between a government already long divorced from
the foundational Christian principles-- and a people holding on to a Bible they too often no longer hear preached
in the public square.Homosexual marriage --as recognized by
the government of a State--or by many States may not bring
civil war-- but will certainly go a long way to proving we
have returned to whence we began and the enemy has sprung up
from amongst us-the Tyrants are no longer the Lobsterbacked
minions of the corrupted British Crown.

[DonaldDuke]

IF LAW BREAKING BY GAYS IS SANCTIONED AND ACCEPTED BY OUR STATE OFFICIALS, THEN THE RIGHT TO BREAK LAWS APPLIES TO EVERYONE!

Seems someone have had the same thought already...

KABA Writer Investigated for Questioning Civil Authority

[EdReform]

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[ohioman]

There is nothing wrong with what Arnold says. The sad thing is that nobody will physically stop this madness. The dregs of society should never be offically condoned by the State..

[autoresponder]

I noted the "no arrests yet" on FR threads after I posted that statement from a SF protestor on WABC 770AM NYC.


Some might have been "detained" a bit; that can even involve cuffs and a ride downtown without any actual arrests being made.

That SF Mayor is playing a very dangerous game with peoples lives and futures and California's credibility that is needed to kkep or attract business and new business.

He and his underlings are committing felonies under CA statutes.

The CA AG is another jerk too.


I did not intend to mislead FReepers or FR visitors, just post the very latest info from the horse's mouth; looks like some horses may be stretching things, but I can understand their situation.

Tough on the California citizen and scary for businesses and the tourist industry.

Those nutcase toss a grenade and frag everyone but themselves.

Must be rough for LEOs there.


I would not go there for anything myself.

[I_Love_My_Husband]

City Hall is not open yet. I wonder what the day will bring us.

Please FReepers support the Right, any violent act by ANYONE will HARM our cause.

It's all well and good the rhetoric here, but anyone who has any crazy ideas, please reign yourself in. It will only HARM OUR CAUSE.

I know that most everyone here will remember that. We're the side that obeys laws after all.

Love,
ILMH

[Cronos]

Why can't they get marrired? THey should be allowed to do so. If Lockyer wants to get married to 7 women at the same time, he should be allowed to do so, if he wants to marrry a 6 years boy/dog/girl/horse/pig/stone/vacuum cleaner he should be allowed to do so.... </sarcasm

[Scenic Sounds]

Military and Veterans Code, Section 143:

"Whenever the Governor is satisfied that rebellion, insurrection, tumult or riot exists in any part of the state or that the execution of civil or criminal process has been forcibly resisted by bodies of persons, or that any conspiracy or combination exists to resist by force the execution of process, or that the officers of any county or city are unable or have failed for any reason to enforce the laws, the Governor may, by proclamation, declare any part of the State of California or the county or city or any portion thereof to be in a state of insurrection, and he or she may thereupon order into the service of the state any number and description of the active militia, or unorganized militia, as he or she deems necessary, to serve for a term and under the command of any officer as he or she directs."

As you can see, our Legislature has cleared the path for our Governor!! All he needs to do is to declare San Francisco to be in a state of insurrection!!

How long will we be forced to endure this anxious state of uncertainty?

None dare call it insurrection.!!!

[Carry_Okie]

That's been precisely my point for the last week. Thanks for finding the statute.

Troops, not lawyers. It's beyond time to enforce the law. Those who think that calling out the National Gurard to make arrests at the San Francisco courthouse is too extreme, that we need to go to full extent of legal recourse before taking action while thousands of couples get "married" (over 6,000 people by now), only to have them later become annulled, have witlessly (I hope) abetted the full blown riot likely to result. This situation should have been nipped in the bud for the benefit of all concerned.

If Gavin Newsome thought the law unconstitutional, he could have simply sued and tested it before adopting the route of civil disobedience via an act of dictatorship. He didn't need to put these people through a tragic emotional loop. For that action alone, he is neither compassionate or principled, but incontinent and despicable. That Arnold has let it get this far, AND has pitched to Lockyer the opportunity to throw the State's case, is nearly as bad.

[Scenic Sounds]

Just Say No To
Cultural Suicide!

Send in the troops!