Posted on 01/27/2004 8:08:04 AM PST by blam
'Your forefathers were not Neanderthals'
January 26 2004 at 02:30PM
By Maggie Fox
Washington - You may think your grandparents act like Neanderthals, but United States researchers said on Monday they had strong evidence that modern humans are not descended from them.
A computer analysis of the skulls of modern humans, Neanderthals, monkeys and apes shows that we are substantially different, physically, from those early humans.
New York University paleoanthropologist Katerina Harvati said Neanderthals should be considered a separate species from Homo sapiens, and not just a sub-species.
"We interpret the evidence presented here as supporting the view that Neanderthals represent an extinct human species and therefore refute the regional continuity model for Europe," she and colleagues wrote in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.
Some anthropologists believe that Neanderthals, who went extinct 30 000 years ago, may have at least contributed to the ancestry of modern Europeans.
There is strong evidence that Homo sapiens neanderthalis, as they are known scientifically, interacted with the more modern Cro-Magnons, who eventually displaced them. Cro-Magnons are the ancestors of modern humans, Homo sapiens sapiens.
Some research has suggested they may have interbred to a limited degree, although this is hotly disputed in anthropological circles.
At least one study that looked at fragments of Neanderthal DNA suggested any Neanderthal-Cro-Magnon offspring did not add to the modern gene pool.
Harvati and colleagues combined modern computer technology and the tried-and-true method of determining species that uses physical comparisons.
They examined the skulls of modern humans and Neanderthals and 11 existing species of non-human primates including chimpanzees, gorillas and baboons.
They measured 15 standard skull and face landmarks and used 3-D analysis to superimpose each one on the other.
"From these data, we were able to determine how much variation living primate species generally accommodate, as well as measure how different two primate species that are closely related can be," Harvati said in a statement.
Their computer analyses showed that the differences measured between modern humans and Neanderthals were significantly greater than those found between subspecies of living monkeys and apes.
The Bible states that the Sons of God came down and procreated with the Daughters of Man. Hence, we have modern humans.
In the same vein, the Sons of Satan came "up" and interbreed with the Bimbos of Man, hence....we have Liberals.
It's all very simple, really.
Just kidding about the dentistry. What Rozzi is trying to prove is the *blind belief* that Neandertal was inferior and driven to extinction by our ancestors. IOW, it's more GIGO. If Rozzi were a dentist -- or for that matter, hadn't received his paleontology degree from the University of Disneyland -- he'd be aware of this:Neanderthals matured faster than humansA new study suggests that Neanderthal children blazed through adolescence and on average reached adulthood at age 15... [P]aleontologist Fernando V. Ramirez Rozzi... with the National Center for Scientific Research in Paris, based his study on analysis of Neanderthal teeth... "It's a very exciting paper," said anthropologist Katerina Harvati of New York University. "Our current understanding of Neanderthals is that they're brutish and stupid, even though it turns out they have larger brains on average than ourselves"... For more than 100,000 years, Neanderthals roamed across a vast region from Spain to southern Russia and western Asia, overlapping with anatomically modern man for several thousand years... Harvati said their quick maturation rate may have been an adaptation to a harsh environment that decreased their life span and made it important for youngsters to reach sexual maturity quickly... Erik Trinkaus of Washington University in St. Louis said he's skeptical of the research. Human growth varies widely within a population, he said. In fact, Rozzi's study includes some Neanderthal teeth that took as long to develop as modern human teeth. University of Illinois at Chicago anatomy professor Jay Kelley said he's also concerned about making conclusions based on what are essentially assumptions about Neanderthal tooth growth.
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April 28, 2004
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This would agree with the Biblical account that gives strong evidence of an entire race of mankind existing and being completely extinguished before Adam arrived on the scene.
We are Neanderthals simply because Ted Kennedy said we were and if a liberal says it, it has to be true!
Now that you mention it, about a year ago on the news they interviewed a living woman in Vietnam who was 124 years old, so it is possible for man to live that long.
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