Posted on 07/30/2026 7:16:31 AM PDT by Red Badger
The ruling does change the fundamental nature of what the books were intended for: they were intended to be read by human beings, not used as training for machines to replace human thought and ingenuity.
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AI companies are buying old books, scanning them, then destroying them. Anthropic has been buying the books to feed the machine with human knowledge and ideas written down before the AI era, so only books with publication dates before 2022 will do. Once they have the books, they rip off the spines, feed them through a scanner, and then on into the gaping maw of the AI LLMs that consume everything, including, eventually, themselves.
The revelations came out in a lawsuit brought by authors who said the destruction violated the Copyright Act. Federal judge for the Northern District of California William Alsup ruled that the bulk buy, scanning, and destruction is fair use under Section 107 of the Copyright Act. As far back as 2024, Anthropic, which has come under fire by the Trump administration over national security concerns, said "We don’t want it to be known that we are working on this." It's not a good look to be destroying books.
The suit reads that authors Andrea Bartz, Charles Graeber, and Kirk Wallace Johnson were a few of the authors whose books were bought by Anthropic. For use in Claude, Anthropic "assembled these copies into a central library of its own, copied further various sets and subsets of those library copies to include in various 'data mixes,' and used these mixes to train various LLMs. Anthropic kept the library copies in place as a permanent, general-purpose resource even after deciding it would not use certain copies to train LLMs or would never use them again to do so." The authors had not agreed to this and these copies of their books were taken permanently out of circulation, never to be read by human eyes again.
Anthropic is one of these companies that has been buying physical books in bulk to rip apart, scan, then destroy, in service to its AI model Claude. Any books will do, even if that book is the very last copy of that book in the world. Legally, this is allowed under the first-sale doctrine, which permits a book-buyer to do whatever they want with that book object, without a need for the copyright owner's permission. It's an object, like a pair of shoes or a blender.
The ruling reads: "every purchased print copy was copied in order to save storage space and to enable searchability as a digital copy. The print original was destroyed. One replaced the other. And, there is no evidence that the new, digital copy was shown, shared, or sold outside the company."
In the suit, a judge found that because Anthropic was using the books in a way that fundamentally transformed them into something else, in this case turning them from books into raw data that will have no reference to their original self, and that this constituted fair use. Previous to the bulk buying of books, Anthropic pirated books or bought pirated books. They looked to former head of Google Books' scan project Tom Turvey to come in and get more data to feed the LLM. That data was not just information but also style and tone, proprietary authorial elements.
There's lots of companies that are willing to do the selling. ISBNdb claims to have the "world's largest book database," and says "the world's best AI training data is sitting on a shelf." They also promise not to reveal who is doing the bulk buying, knowing that no AI company wants to be the subject of a headline about how they're destroying millions of books at a go.
ISBNdb says that AI training on AI material results in data degradation. "Not all data degradation is intentional," says ISBNdb. "When AI systems train on text that was itself AI-generated, a documented phenomenon called model collapse occurs: subtle linguistic nuances vanish, systematic errors compound, and outputs converge on repetitive patterns. Each generation trained on synthetic data is slightly worse than the last. Print books from the pre-LLM era are structurally guaranteed to be free of this contamination. That alone is a significant advantage."
404 Media spoke to a bookseller who said that bulk orders from his store have resulted in the destruction of out-of-print books for which there are only single copies remaining. "I personally have mixed feelings about all of this," said the bookseller. "It benefits me financially as well as by clearing out old inventory that is otherwise unlikely to sell. I’ve been well-suited for these sales with inventory from overseas and foreign language books. On the other hand, I don’t like the end-use, and I don’t like that uncommon books are being pulped."
The ruling reads: "This order grants summary judgment for Anthropic that the training use was a fair use. And, it grants that the print-to-digital format change was a fair use for a different reason. But it denies summary judgment for Anthropic that the pirated library copies must be treated as training copies." The ruling does change the fundamental nature, however, of what the books were intended for: they were intended to be read by human beings, not used as training for machines to replace human thought and ingenuity.
As it stands, Anthropic and other AI companies that are developing and furthering their large language models for use both as information and writing tools are permitted to take books out of circulation, feed them to the LLM, and destroy them, without concern for copyright law or, as it turns out, the preservation of the scope and breadth of human history, knowledge, experience, and creativity.
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A lot of old books self-destruct slowly because of the acid in the paper. That’s why they turn yellow over time, even if they are like new. I avoid buying them..............
So can the "Second Addition". The "First Additions" will soon move to the used book store and thereafter the pulper.
This all won't make much difference once civilization collapses. We are in the latter phases of that.
Oh, which lasted longer: the paper books or the talking rings?
The books are destroyed after being scanned. This is wrong.
They are preserved after being cut up.
It’s all about the line though. You can totally photo copy anything you own, for yourself. It’s that distribute to class part that crosses the line. So until their AI actually spits out copyrighted material (which we know it will) it’s all fair use.
There should be a better way of scanning than ripping off the spine.
Maybe open the book, scan both sides, then flip the page?
Even without digitization manipulation can and has existed. If you want to waste some time on fun look up how Lord of the Rings was changed over the years. The Dwarfs Dwarves saga alone is quite funny.
Digitization just makes it easier. And if all things get digital much harder to trace.
Think upon this:
If all physical copies of a certain book are now non-existent, and exist solely as one copy on a computer server somewhere on the planet, it can be edited, changed, modified or even destroyed and rewritten from scratch.
Think, BIBLE..........................
FTA: they rip them up so they feed into the scanner
But where’s the fun in that?.....................😉
Logical fallacy, false appeal to authority, maybe you did or did not work in AI, maybe you replaced hard drives as IT, has no bearing on the fact destroying a book is never a good idea when it is not necessary, especially on an industrial scale.
Yes, it is thoughtful to be concerned with such destruction and to question it. Yes, it is ignorant to rant about how there is no risk because there is always another book (your point basically).
History is replete with examples of corporate malfeasance in the name of progress, to pretend otherwise is ignorant.
Ya get to do what you want with your own property in this here country.
Thank you for posting this. Some are of the mind that it is impossible for this AI process of book assimilation could ever result in such destruction.
It is absolutely possible and reasonable to challenge such practices
I call bullsh*t on this. If he had the very last copy of any book: 1. He would have sold it to someone else for a fortune. 2. The plaintiffs would have named that book in the suit to prove the case. 3. And anyway how does the bookseller know that no other person in the whole world has a copy?
One of my previous employers had their records and books scanned. These documents dated back the early 1800s and were handwritten. I was on the project. These were scanned and returned in the same condition. Nothing was destroyed.
The penmanship was beautiful back then.
I destroyed all of my Peter Norton, "PC Secrets" books. Am I a sinner?
That is the point.
This AI shit may just destroy modern civilization.
Had claude models go rogue and try to root themselves in a compromised server to continue hacking attacks
Just like covid they escaped from the lab.
They weren't bound books, either. Big difference come scanning.
In a few years, few people will be able to read ‘cursive’ writings and it will be like Babylonian clay tablets..............
Just to be clear, the current civilization IS being destroyed. What follows will be the modern one, even if we have to go through all of phases again. ;-D
[anarchy, feudalism, monarchy, enlightenment....]
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