Posted on 09/02/2025 8:18:26 AM PDT by Red Badger
A hidden city buried under Iraq’s desert may hold the key to a forgotten global civilization destroyed by a flood 20,000 years ago.
Credit: Shutterstock | The Daily Galaxy --Great Discoveries Channel
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In a recent investigation originally published by the Daily Mail and later echoed by Indy100, researchers at the ancient Sumerian site of Tell Fara revealed signs of a previously unknown, potentially advanced civilization buried beneath 5,000-year-old ruins. The findings, which combine geological anomalies with rare artifacts, suggest this early society may have been wiped out by a massive flood nearly 20,000 years ago, long before the emergence of known Mesopotamian cities.
Unexpected Signs Of A Buried World
Tell Fara has been a focus of archaeological interest since the 1930s, excavations have revealed relics such as cuneiform tablets and polychrome ceramics from around 5,000 years ago. But beneath these remains, researchers recently identified a thick layer of yellow clay and sand—an “inundation layer“—suggesting that the site experienced a powerful flood long before the known settlements existed.
This flood layer hints at an earlier civilization buried under layers of sediment. Similar geological signs have also been observed at Ur and Kish in Mesopotamia, Harappa in the Indus Valley, and even ancient Nile River sites in Egypt.
Credit: Erick Schmidt
A Global Disaster 20,000 Years Ago?
Independent researcher Matt LaCroix, who has been studying the phenomenon, believes the evidence points to a disaster that occurred around 20,000 years ago. “Nothing in the last 11,000 years even comes close to explaining it,” LaCroix told the Daily Mail.
He proposes that a dramatic climate shift triggered widespread floods capable of wiping out entire civilizations. Rather than relying solely on archaeological data, he analyzed geological records such as ice cores, tree rings, volcanic ash, and geomagnetic anomalies.
He then cross-referenced this data with flood myths from different cultures and ancient astronomical alignments. According to LaCroix, this method revealed a compelling overlap between the scientific and mythological records.
Ancient Flood, Ancient Tech
The excavations at Tell Fara revealed artifacts beneath the flood layer, including proto-cuneiform tablets, Fara II-style bowls, and intricately decorated polychrome jars—items that reflect a level of craftsmanship and cultural sophistication not typically attributed to Upper Paleolithic societies.
Lead archaeologist Erick Schmidt, working with the Penn Museum, noted the sharp differences between artifacts above and below the flood layer. He described it as an “absolute culture break,” writing that the complete difference in material culture suggests either total erasure or an abrupt reset.
Only a small number of human skeletons have been recovered from the lower layer, leading Schmidt to speculate that people may have fled before the flood reached the city.
Credit: Erick Schmidt
From Ancient Memory To Shared History
LaCroix contends that this lost civilization may have been part of a global network, connected not just by trade but by common symbols, myths, and catastrophic memories. The fact that similar flood stories are found in ancient Sumer, Egypt, India, and even pre-Columbian Peru suggests a shared cultural memory of an event that reshaped early human history.
He emphasizes that this isn’t just” a merely coincidence,” the alignment of flood deposits at sites like Tell Fara, Ur, and Kish with stories of ancient floods points to what he calls “a shared memory of real catastrophic events.”
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This site suggests a time well before the collapse of the Laurentide Ice Sheet.
They could always put a barrel on the roof and let it drain through the engine to a line out on the fender like in Vietnam with the old duce and a half’s.
Keeps away snakes.................
They didn’t have TV...........so, no Arsenio Hall............
Huh. Woolley’s excavation of Ur found a thick intervening layer. Between breaks in artificial barriers like levees and unusually large seasonal floods, it’s not unlikely that some ancient cities and towns that survive in the cuneiform have probably not been found because they were buried and never rebuilt. None of this has anything to do with a global flood as claimed in the clickbait.
Kind of legitimizes the Gap Theory.
My crazy theory is that a maritime civilization grew and flourished in regions which are now under one or two hundred feet of seawater, and that the end of that civilization came surprisingly quickly as the glaciers melted. This then is why what I would call “fully developed” civilizations mark the beginning of civilizations as identified from the archeological record. They were the descendant cultures of those which had been washed away.
/tinfoil
Oh, but they have. Google OOPARTS (Out of place artifacts)
advanced societies need not mean flying machines and the such—but perhaps earlier civilizations had a difference scientific approach to things, such as using sound to move objects. There is some evidence that sound was used to vitrify stones used in the walls in Peru (the ancient walls, not the Incan walls) —
We have the ancient Vedic stories of flying machines of course—
Its all tantalizing. I am wondering how Graham Hancock would categorize this latest information.
The continental shelf must have loads of evidence, more than has already been discovered. Probably not a single worldwide civilization, but people have been using watercraft of some sort or other for 100s of 1000s of years. Even if there wasn't some thallosocracy, there were ships on the waters.
The Anatolian site Catal Huyuk thrived because of the terrain and its control of the overland obsidian trade. Related, smaller towns in the region were similar in building style, but it has been suggested that the lack of development in the lower strata of all these sites -- as if they just popped into being -- implies a period of development elsewhere.
Since that's never been found, the proximity of the Mediterranean probably means their forebears lived on what's now the shelf.
“thallosocracy”
Okay man, now ur just flexing.
8^)
To: Red Badger
“He proposes that a dramatic climate shift triggered widespread floods capable of wiping out entire civilizations.”
I guess it was all their coal fired power plants and gas guzzling SUVs that caused it. Their leaders should have just raised taxes and they’d still be around.
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Bwaaahahaha
I think that term appeared in reference to the free-form fantasies of Sir Arthur Evans, during his domination of British scholarship regarding the Minoans. The Minoans were shipbuilders and seafarers, and carried out colonization and/or trade throughout the Med, but the vision of thallosocracy seems to have just been an anachronistic echo of British sea power.
As Rocky and Bullwinkle said, “Rue Brittania”
Metal is recyclable. In fact it is the most recyclable thing we have.
It is like going into an old house and wondering where all the wiring and piping are. Gone to the scrap yard everyone.
From the FRchives, the rest of the Graham Hancock keyword, sorted:
This is a misleading headline. They found evidence of a flood, not a civilization.
It is currently stylish to speak of “Pre Flood” civilizations
I Noah a guy who may have some insight on this....
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